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Unfortunately, many of the patrons at very high-end trendy restaurants are there for pretentious reasons. |
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Tie, hell, I don't even wear underwear anymore.
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GM has it right. "Dress appropriately". That is their policy now. Figure out, you have a job and are supposed to be an adult.
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Dress varies by location and culture. It's always been that way. Norms change but not that much, really. It's all about dressing for the norm, wherever you might be. Most of the USA is very hot in the summer and people wear shorts and light clothing as much as possible.
Some people are just slobs and cannot look presentable no matter what. Someone can look very presentable in shorts and a golf shirt if their clothes are clean and they practice good personal hygiene. Here in Los Angeles, I can go almost anywhere dressed this way. In Malibu, even at Nobu, it's unlikely to see anyone wearing a suit, ever. Growing up, my dad wore a nice suit and tie everyday to work. He was a lawyer and it was the norm in his professional world. He was always well dressed even when not working, quality shirts and sweaters, nice shoes, etc. I try to be presentable even in my extremely informal world, which means looking in a mirror before leaving home and wearing clean shirts and shorts or jeans. One thing I've unfortunately had to come to grips with is that what you can get away with @ 25 or 30, (anything), can look pathetic on an older guy. That worn out t-shirt and ball cap that was ok then makes you look homeless in your 50s. It's obvious by looking around that some people just throw in the towel on their looks in middle age, (if they ever cared), but anyone can look presentable for others. Not talking about extreme vanity, (which makes people look like a fool, IMO), just clean clothes and hygiene, etc. :cool: |
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I have not had on a tie since my dad's funeral. I plan to never wear a tie ever again. For me dressed up is a pair of Dockers, and a real shirt with buttons all the way from top to bottom in the front. Still short sleeves. And brown shoes that are not walking shoes. I only have one formal long sleeved shirt. I got married in it. I doubt it fits. I don't care. |
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I've heard 2 different schools of thought on this
1) dress for the job you want, not the job you have and 2) dress to the level of your client - ie: if you are meeting with a farmer, then jeans are acceptable. if meeting with an attorney or other professional, coat and slacks |
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I can't disagree.
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The last time I wore a tie was for the interview for my current job, which was via Skype with webcam on. Of course, I was wearing no pants or shoes, but I looked nice on the webcam. That was 18 months ago. We are not allowed to wear ties at trade shows. It's actually a policy. So I'll probably only ever wear a tie again for weddings and funerals.
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I think a nice pair of lite weight wool Zanella's would be more like it... |
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I like to dress up... unfortunately I'm a sweaty guy and most of the time it is just too darn hot in SoCal to wear a jacket and tie. Funny, in the shop this morning we were talking about people wearing pajamas in public (adults)... maybe okay if you are a hot chick... come to think of it hot chicks get a pass on spandex an yoga pants in public too. THAT's IT! It is all a the hot chicks fault!!! "In the future all restaurants will be taco bell" |
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There is difference between dressing casually and being slovenly. A guy wearing a dirty seed corn cap and a wife beater in a restaurant is just a slob.
A local, nationally known local steak house used to keep ties on hand if a “gentleman” showed up without a tie. Now the draw the line at shorts and/or tee shirts I like dressing up and going out with MrsWD, but I have a trophy wife who makes it worth it SmileWavy It’s not just dress, there has been a decline in general decorum. Look at what comes out of the mouths of our politicians. |
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