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 It begs credulity that someone could work on machines w rollers for a living and lean over them without knowing this or that it was the first time he knew of someone's tie going in the rollers if not. :confused: | 
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 However, and that having been said, Kodak is really the one at fault. The techs should certainly have had the freedom to remove their jackets and roll their sleeves up, not to mention restricting the tie. OSAH would nowadays see to that. Or, he could have brought a lab coat. Still in compliance with that on. The right clothing in the right place. | 
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 Before I retired the 20 somethings were coming into our office wearing just about anything other than "professional" garb. Way back when I worked for J&J I owned 7 suites, was mandated to travel in a suite and couldn't even leave my laboratory without my jacket. Even as a bench chemist a proper shirt and tie was required. Heck, I once got gigged for carrying a canvas knapsack instead of a briefcase! I don't miss those days but slovenly is no way to come into an office. | 
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 Fashion. HOT. OK, which one of you guys would wear this to a meeting?  :D http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...736_o15988.jpg | 
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 I wear a solid color suit and tie to work (with a white, long sleeve shirt).  Black shoes and belt.  I do not wear a blazer or mixed pants/jacket.  It is probably just me, but... the blazer, tie and khakis looks like what the old dudes with no game wore when I was a kid (insurance sales, used car guy or the bag boy at the grocery with the short sleeved shirt and mangled tie).  Looks funny to me (like a mullet).  "business up front and party in the back".  The guys my mom used to work with used that as a uniform...but they were pretty bottom rung...so maybe just a phobia on my part. While I suspect that wearing a nice suit to work, church, etc. seems out of place to many now, I sorta like it as almost everyone seems to appreciate it. At work, superiors, subordinates, etc. all seem to treat me better when I am dressed better. Even if i go to rich or stop at a store or restaurant...same thing. Much better treatment than when I go to the same places in jeans or shorts. Women (of all ages) really seem to like a well dressed man...just like the song. I imagine if one was carrying an extra 100 lbs...it just would not help. | 
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 This brings up a point, I have several very expensive tailored sport coats and suits rotting in my closet. Nice stuff from the Squire Shop in Cherry Creek back in the day. What are they good for? Is there a market? I'll never wear them again... Plus they don't fit me anyhow, they've shrunk or something! | 
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 Back when I was a young 'un, I landed my first professional programming job, as a COBOL programmer for TransAmerica.  We were required to wear ties, which I hated, but I sucked it up because I finally got the job I wanted.   Pushed the envelope and found I could get away with wearing a bow tie, which bugged my manager (picture Lumberg from Office Space) but it was allowed and there wasn't squat he could do about it.    Then HR came out with a new Employee Handbook, and made a huge deal where we had to read it and sign a statement that we had read it, etc.  So I read it.  And in there I found the phrase "All management personnel must wear ties" - but I couldn't find anything that said the worker bees had to wear ties.  So the next day, I left the tie in the car.  I walk in, and one of my co-workers instantly hits me up "Hey, where's your tie?"  I told him that according to the new handbook, we're not required to wear one.  I got called into my manager's office, and I explained to him that in the new handbook, it didn't say we were required to wear ties.    He was flustered, but he couldn't find a hole in my logic.  Over the next few days, my fellow coders started ditching their ties, too. | 
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 I've been through this. I had a couple Hickey Freeman's (conservative, for Catholic hospital deals only), one Armani black label (trim fit), and half dozen Joseph Abboud's from 2000 thru 2010. I took them to a consignment store in Westlake Village when I retired and she wouldn't take anything but the Armani. Suggested I give the rest to Goodwill. That's just what I did. The Armani sold for $75 :confused: Anything more than five or six years old is outdated. The new style is super trim tailored. You gotta be just as trim to wear them. Not many of us late-50 and 60-somethings can pull that off. Are suits just date us. | 
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 You know, I have to ask, what is the point of a tie in the first place? who thought that up? Seems like it has its roots in a convenient handle attached to the collar to drag someone around by. | 
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 Fashion forward... Where and why would you wear this, exactly?  Kids today resemble Pee Wee Herman- except Pee Wee's clothes actually fit. https://images.asos-media.com/groups...=0&printRes=72 It's kids clothes. Grown adult- probably not so much. rjp | 
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