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cairns 10-12-2018 06:00 AM

When I fly Malaysian Airlines I never shower beforehand.

I figure I'll just wash up on the beach.

ossiblue 10-13-2018 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by afterburn 549 (Post 10213539)
OK here is a question for legal experts .
The state of NY sends out their reps to inspect commercial vehicles.
In some cases, they work for the state .
In other cases, independent shops are designated State of NY inspection stations run privately.
These have paid their money to be a satellite station albeit private.
OK -In either case, if they pass a vehicle as "OK" and it has a wreck because of an overlooked fault who can the owner hold as responsible?
The state has demanded the inspections.
If the state inspector misses something then is the state held liable? After all they appointed themselves as the proprietor of what is OK or not.
If the satellite station passes a vehicle and same scenario - would they not be held acountable?

it just seems very scary to me to get involved in a 25 dollar inspection just to see if they could hammer some business out of it.

Not a legal expert, but this is my understanding.

There is only one party responsible and that is the owner, always. It is the owner's responsibility to maintain a vehicle to the set standards of safety and equipment. It is the owner's responsibility to know what those items and standards are. The inspection is only a check to see if the owner has lived up to his responsibility. If the inspection misses a faulty item, that does not shift the responsibility to the inspectors as it is the responsibility of the owner to not have had the faulty item on the vehicle in the first place. The owner knows, going in, what items will be checked. If the owner fails to know the condition of those items, that is his failure. The inspection is just that, an inspection. It is not an analysis of a vehicle to be reported back to an unknowing owner for repair. It is the owner's responsibility to have that knowledge before bringing the car to inspection.

BlueWing 10-13-2018 09:02 AM

I'm not far from this area and have driven it occasionally. It is well marked and wide open. Often accidents are a total of mistakes not always a singular event.

Two legal points are the owner of a registered roadworthy vehicle is responsible for it's maintenance, safety, and legality. An operator of a motor vehicle is responsible for
it's safety and legality (registered, safety inspection and class of license needed).

In our state an expired inspection and even an obvious safety violation can be ticketed even if it is parked and unoccupied. When any vehicle has an OBD port it is connected to the NYSDMV during the state required safety/emissions testing.

Also if a vehicle fails inspection it gets an ugly yellow failure sticker on the windshield and had 10 days to correct. Thats 10 days of potential dangerously operating on the road.

There are so many aspects of failure here the sorrowful loss will be in the families life forever and our legal system will keep it up front for them for years to come.

Terry

pete3799 10-13-2018 09:33 AM

Don't know how a mechanic is supposed to know when a rusty brake line is about to let go. If rusty brake lines all fail than 80% of cars on the road (around here) would fail inspection.
https://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/story/news/local/vermont/2015/08/11/mechanic-charged-manslaughter/31466163/


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