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Cajundaddy 11-14-2018 08:06 AM

I compare Amazon with local stores and other online resellers a lot. Sometimes another seller is a few $$ cheaper but 95% of the time Amazon Prime is both lower price and faster service. It has value to me but is not the only game in town. Caveat emptor.

speeder 11-14-2018 08:17 AM

I just ordered some stuff from Amazon, I actually don't use them very much. I'm a big ebay user for everything under the sun, just easier and faster shopping format IMO. One thing about Amazon I will say, merchandise shows up FAST. It's like they have a warehouse a mile from my home.

Fly Mach .86 11-14-2018 08:24 AM

I rarely buy from Amazon but if I do It's because of the convenience, not the price. Amazon is becoming and wants to become the Wallmart of the internet and I NEVER buy anything from Wallmart, EVER. Wallmart wants to put every other retailer out of business. You won't find that written in any corporate handbook but it's there non the less. By the way, Amazon is buying it's own airplanes and I expect they will have their own airline certificate in the future. (For any aspiring pilots out there). SmileWavy

look 171 11-14-2018 08:29 AM

I try like hell to buy and support my local vendors. Its usually a phone call away and they deliver to my job site, so its a piece of cake. Sure they are more but the thought of not having to sit in traffic just to get there and hash it out with the counter salesman is worth its weight in gold. I needed 60 recess lights, spec'd out by some bright eyed kid in some drawings, so I can get final inspection done tomorrow. I called my electrical house last week and they had to locate it somewhere in town. One week out, usually means 10+ days sometimes. We are done with the job so they can have their Thanksgiving there. Off to Amazon I go. All 60 of the lights arrived at my door step within two days. We put em' on yesterday. At 53 bucks a piece, they were $2.80 more then my vendor. I am just happy to have them. Amazon isn't so bad after all. I am more then happy to pay more for this type of service.

stomachmonkey 11-14-2018 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Neilk (Post 10251324)
Not sure how these third party sellers make money in these situations, kind of scary in a way for bricks and mortar retailers.

Lower overhead.

One warehouse and a few employees to do pick n pull.

Gogar 11-14-2018 08:54 AM

I bought a SMOVE mobile 2 video gimbal from “the vendor” for $159 and it arrived broken. I sent it back and asked for a full refund and it was a little bit of a challenge to get them to accept it at all; took lots of follow up and crappy communication to get it done.

Because they knew that in the course of my return I had found out that SMOVE is actually a $89 FeiyuTech Vimbal 2 with a fancy sticker on it.

So there’s definitely good vendor stories and bad; the thing about “sold and shipped from amazon” and prime is that it’s a reliable story.

svandamme 11-14-2018 08:58 AM

It's 5 euros here, i did it once , but mostly to view some video stuff.. (Le Mans doc from Posche).

I subscribed and instantly cancelled to let it expire.. So i had a month.


The shipping or prime advantage for shopping, quite frankly, i didn't notice any quicker shipping or cheaper shipping then without. I ordered 3 things and they all got here same speed as before.

svandamme 11-14-2018 09:14 AM

I've returned loads of stuff without prime, and that went just as well.

stomachmonkey 11-14-2018 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Gogar (Post 10251429)
I bought a SMOVE mobile 2 video gimbal from “the vendor” for $159 and it arrived broken. I sent it back and asked for a full refund and it was a little bit of a challenge to get them to accept it at all; took lots of follow up and crappy communication to get it done.

Because they knew that in the course of my return I had found out that SMOVE is actually a $89 FeiyuTech Vimbal 2 with a fancy sticker on it.

So there’s definitely good vendor stories and bad; the thing about “sold and shipped from amazon” and prime is that it’s a reliable story.

Yeah you do need to watch that.

The Alibaba white labels.

See them all the time.

If multiple "brands" pop up that look identical or use nearly identical marketing copy that's a red flag.

Deschodt 11-14-2018 09:51 AM

What worries me is that within 5 years it might the only game in town. Amazon has no competitors, and they are killing local businesses for sure. Then, when they have all that power, what happens? Who keeps them competitive ?

I'm as guilty as anyone, I shop there a lot for convenience (my big caveat is recycling all those cardboard boxes).. The other day I ever tried to use amazon fresh for groceries, because my local supermarket has lines 6 people deep, and I don't want to scan my own groceries thank you very much... *Thankfully* it's not available in my area apparently...

GH85Carrera 11-14-2018 09:55 AM

One of the best features of Amazon, I can find products there that the local stores don't want to carry. I can buy the Reebok Classic 10 EEE and get it delivered in a couple of days. The last time I went to local stores I had to spend 1/2 day to find a store with them in stock.

My wife uses a deodorant that the local stores don't carry. She will break out in a rash with the common brands. Amazon has it, and easy to get.

I bought a pair of Levis "on line" using my Commodore 64 and Compuserve back in 1983. The jeans arrived and fit, and I did not have to go to the mall. Then a month later I got my Compuserve bill. They charged by the minute for connect time, and at 300 baud, it was SLOW. Text only, no graphics of any sort. I could read the text as fast as it downloaded, or as slow is more accurate. Way too expensive for the connect speed.

I guess I have been shopping "on-line" for 35 years. :eek:

john70t 11-14-2018 11:28 AM

1,000BC (or BCE for political correctness) there became into existence the bazaar where a shopper could find everything.
Then the dark ages of trotting and driving needlessly all across town and the world.
In the early twentieth century, the mega mall were introduced.
In the late 1970's, the specialty tools and/or grocery box stores were introduced.
In the 1990's online shopping and the virtual bazaar reappeared. This time around the box stores are no longer limited to space available.

100 years from now, the USPS semi snake train will be custom delivering to secure personal neighborhood lock stations everything you will ever need.

wildthing 11-14-2018 11:44 AM

Always check the seller.

The same item could be cheaper through other sellers, not through Amazon or "Fulfilled by Amazon", but returns could be a PITA.

If it's Prime Eligible, usually the shipping is baked into the price.

stomachmonkey 11-14-2018 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deschodt (Post 10251502)
What worries me is that within 5 years it might the only game in town. Amazon has no competitors, and they are killing local businesses for sure. Then, when they have all that power, what happens? Who keeps them competitive ?

I'm as guilty as anyone, I shop there a lot for convenience (my big caveat is recycling all those cardboard boxes).. The other day I ever tried to use amazon fresh for groceries, because my local supermarket has lines 6 people deep, and I don't want to scan my own groceries thank you very much... *Thankfully* it's not available in my area apparently...

While Amazon dominates the ecomm space they actually only account for <5% of all retail.

Deschodt 11-14-2018 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by peteremsley (Post 10251703)
anyone done the Prime/Whole Foods thing? Not really sure how it works...

If you mean in store, you download an app for amazon - give it your prime logon, and it displays one of those picture-codes that you scan and get a discount at whole foods..

mepstein 11-14-2018 12:59 PM

Being able to buy something in less than a minute and have it delivered to my door in a day or two. Priceless. If I have to return it, another minute and I'm done. Amazing. Everything always in stock. Fantastic. And I can split it with my whole family.

LakeCleElum 11-14-2018 01:14 PM

The good deal I signed up for on Prime has been watered down......Price went up. Used to be free 2-day shipping on everything. Now, not all items qualify. Just bought a latch for my dishwasher.....Needed it fast as dishwasher was out of service w/o it......Prime claimed it would be here Sunday. Crickets. Monday (Veteran holiday) crickets.....It showed up Tuesday afternoon.......

I have buddy that calls in to complain when that happens to him....They say, "SORRY", we'll extend your Prime renewal by 2 months........He now gets free Prime as it hasn't expired....

scottmandue 11-14-2018 01:18 PM

We find Prime easily pays for itself with the free shipping.

However I always check prices at least on eBay before buying.


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