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T77911S 11-14-2018 03:08 AM

amazon prime. what a scam
 
so the other day I ordered a motive brake bleeder from "amazon". $49 PLUS 5 for shipping., something happened and I had to re order so I let my wife order it on her "amazon prime". $56 with FREE shipping. gee, I wonder if shipping really was free:rolleyes:

I hear people say they just goto amazon because its cheaper. I find things quite a bit cheaper than amazon at other places quite a often.

Jims5543 11-14-2018 03:21 AM

I order a car part from, lets say Bavauto.

It costs a few busks less and the shipping almost makes it a wash +/- $5.

Then the order sits for 4-8 days before it finally ships. I get it 2 weeks later.


I order the same part on Amazon and it is on my door step 2 days later.


Additionally, if I need something, I can have it to me in 2 days with a few mouse clicks.

I also have a ton of movies and series I can stream and music I can stream if I desire all included in the membership.

It is not for everyone, I get that, I like the convenience of it.

Also, if you wife has prime, you have prime, you can put your CC# in there and order under her account.

My Prime account services 3 people, myself, my wife and my adult son, who does not live with us we all use it.

tabs 11-14-2018 03:53 AM

Nothing is free.

legion 11-14-2018 03:58 AM

Amazon knows full well that if you are a prime member, you are "locked in" and likely to look for everything there first.

74-911 11-14-2018 04:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jims5543 (Post 10251001)
...... It is not for everyone, I get that, I like the convenience of it.

Also, if you wife has prime, you have prime, you can put your CC# in there and order under her account.

My Prime account services 3 people, myself, my wife and my adult son, who does not live with us we all use it.

^^^^^ Prime is no longer about pricing, it is about convenience. Several things I have ordered lately have "free" one day shipping. I can maybe get something a little cheaper elsewhere but unless the price difference is significant, Prime it is although E-bay and Walmart on-line are worth checking into on some items.. and nothing is really "free"...

and We have several grandkids using our Prime account.

That being said, Amazon appears to be on a path for world domination and this may not end well for a lot of businesses. I try to buy locally but it can be really time-consuming to do so for many items.

wdfifteen 11-14-2018 04:11 AM

The price of the same item may depend on the seller. Motive Products brake bleeders are sold on Amazon by at least two different vendors (Motive Products and Motive Gear). Vendor A may not participate in Prime, while vendor B does. To compete, Vendor A has to offer a lower price plus shipping. Without Prime offering free shipping, Vendor A might charge the higher price PLUS shipping. BTW, both the vendors I found sell at the same price.
Also, Amazon doesn't offer everyone the same price. They may have thought you were a better demographic to offer a cheaper price to.

Baz 11-14-2018 04:14 AM

That's odd......I just looked it up on Amazon and didn't see it listed as discounted price - just the $56.46 figure. With PRIME I could get it delivered tomorrow with free shipping. Without PRIME it would still qualify for free shipping but I couldn't get it so fast.

Anyway......I love getting things so quickly without paying for shipping (or extra shipping) and that alone is worth the membership, for me.

Last week I ordered some medication for one of my dogs I couldn't get elsewhere and receiving it so quickly was a relief.

pksystems 11-14-2018 04:19 AM

You also live in the land of dirt cheap shipping. I buy most things off Amazon now. Shipping, like everything else in Canada costs more. Amazon usually under-charges or doesn't charge ANY tax on some items, that would be taxed at a local store. Shhh.... don't tell the Canadian government.

They also have the free included movies, and music streaming service. Once again, Canadians get hosed on this compared to the US Amazon Prime. :P

Tervuren 11-14-2018 04:26 AM

You need to understand the difference between private merchants, private merchants using amazon fulfilment centers, amazon prime eligible merchants, and amazon sourced items themselves.

Also prime isn't just free shipping, but guaranteed two day. Depending on where you live this may still be worth it.

I do not like having recurring subscription services in my life.

I had an Amazon adventure that took two weeks, it was from a private merchant that I believe has a business model of screwing over just under the 0.5% that amazon allows mistakes on higher dollar lower volume items he sells. It objected to what was happening on principal of what was right, and navigated the river all the way to corporate to get things made right.

I still order/buy from Amazon, but less than I used to.

SweetWaterSurprise 11-14-2018 04:32 AM

I use Prime be cause I know it will be at my door faster. I don't really care about the nominal difference in pricing.

stomachmonkey 11-14-2018 04:35 AM

Pricing on Amazon is often dynamic.

I've seen the price on an item i'm watching fluctuate several times within hours.

Shipping is similar.

Needed to order a bunch of the same item for the office.

Free next day shipping so dropped 6 in the cart and next shipping day turned into 3 day.

Changed the quantity to 2 and next day was available again.

So I placed 3 separate orders of 2. :D

Arizona_928 11-14-2018 04:42 AM

Some things are cheaper, some are not.
As any informed buyer I do compare before spending.
Ordered bunch of ammo cans from Wal-Mart online. they're losing money on those after shipping.

legion 11-14-2018 04:44 AM

I'm not in or near a big city and as such, I can rarely get any item delivered in less than a week. I've found that Walmart.com to often have better prices on electronics than Amazon. They also have about the same selection as Amazon--much better than their stores. I can usually find the exact same items at both Walmart.com and Amazon. The real kicker for me, however, is that most of the items on Walmart.com I can have shipped to a local store for free in a day or two. So I get fast delivery and a good price. I feel like Walmart is really leveraging its infrastructure to make this happen.

red-beard 11-14-2018 04:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SweetWaterSurprise (Post 10251044)
I use Prime be cause I know it will be at my door faster. I don't really care about the nominal difference in pricing.

You have to be very careful with Amazon pricing. A lot of the time, the price is not lower than the local store.

jwasbury 11-14-2018 04:46 AM

we buy a lot from amazon and have the prime membership. not a scam from my perspective. the speed we receive items is phenomenal, and the streaming video also gets used often. we have no cable tv, so all our tv entertainment comes via amazon prime or our netflix subscription. being in a major metro area, some items ordered on prime will arrive the same day. driving 6 miles round trip to the store can be a hour+ endeavor with the traffic around here so amazon is a time saver. returns are super easy too. we have an amazon locker just down the street from our house where I can dump packages to be returned.

flatbutt 11-14-2018 04:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by red-beard (Post 10251056)
You have to be very careful with Amazon pricing. A lot of the time, the price is not lower than the local store.

However I live in a place where the local stores are limited in inventory. "Happy to order that for you!", yeah thank you no.

Arizona_928 11-14-2018 04:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flatbutt (Post 10251067)
However I live in a place where the local stores are limited in inventory. "Happy to order that for you!", yeah thank you no.

That's like all modern auto part stores.

dad911 11-14-2018 05:05 AM

I buy from amazon at least once a week.

Equipment filters for Bobcat & Kubota 1/2 the price of local dealer.

$20 check valve at home depot, at my door for $12.

Just need to be smart about it.

Then there is variety and convenience. I wanted a small wifi camera to send an image to my phone, for aligning trailer hitch. $20 on amazon, right to my door. I could spend hours driving to auto parts, best buy, etc and not find it.

Steve Carlton 11-14-2018 05:09 AM

I use Amazon Prime all the time. The item usually arrives 2 days later (sometimes sooner, rarely later) at my office (I prefer that to my porch). I know they jack up prices when they can, and I've heard (here I think) that they sense you're shopping if you don't buy or with click tracking or cookies or something that like that and reduce their prices.

I don't bother with that. As mentioned, the convenience is well worth it, especially not having to drive somewhere and waste time and gas. An Amazon is excellent about returns. I don't have to worry about them, especially if they themselves "fulfill" the order.

wswartzwel 11-14-2018 05:27 AM

One of the things I like about Amazon Prime..The return policy is pretty liberal... and I always see the credit hit my checking account right after the UPS driver picks it up from my shop.


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