Forget the war, we have bigger problems...

[widebody911]

McNealy / Sun recruiting Indian developers, jobs to go to India. March 4, 2003 - http://zdnet.com.com/ 2100-1104-990931.html

Dell: Dell lays off 5,700 employees and sends their jobs to India. http://www.h1bprotest.com/protest/overseas/9o.asp

American Express: Called American Express lately? Americans no longer answer the phone, India does. http://news.com.com/ 2102-12-964069.html

Oracle: Oracle to increase work force in India http://news.com.com/ 2100-1017-935735.html?tag=prntfr

Sprint: Sprint moves jobs to India. http://www.jacksonville.com/tu-online/stories/ 022102/ bus_8678251.html

HP: Hewlett Packard is boosting its staff in India from 1,500 to 5,000. http://www.gnp.org/layoffs.htm

Microsoft: Microsoft to invest $400 million in India http://boston.internet.com/news/article.php/1498941

IBM: At IBM's Bangalore headquarters, more than 3,000 developers write code for IBM customers. http://www.indiagov.org /US_Media/2001/aug/ ZDNet%20Printer%20Friendly%20-%20Virtual%20India% 20At%20Your%20Service.htm

Cisco: Cisco, plans to invest $200 million in India, layoffs in the U.S. http://www.indiagov.org/US_Media/2001/aug/ZDNet%20Printer%20Friendly%20-%20Virtual%20India%20At%20Your%20Service.htm

Intel: Intel to invest up to $200m in India. http://www.ciol.com/content /news/repts/102083001.asp

Quark: http://maccentral.macworld.com/news/0204/05.quark.php

Network Associates: Network Associates to double India R&D staff. http://www.theworkcircuit.com /news/OEG20021211S0003

Motorola: Motorola has announced plans to invest $13m to set up an R&D facility in Bangalore, India. http://www.theworkcircuit.com/ news/OEG20021108S0006

Tech companies shipping U.S. jobs overseas: http://www.zdnet.com/anchordesk/ stories/story/0,10738,2856761,00.html

[Rot 911]

Sounds like I need to do some investing in India.

[tabs]

Like I have been saying....Irak is about the keeping the Global Economy running like a well oiled machine.......and the above post is proof positive.

[DonDavis]

GE Medical Systems does too. When I get a dispatch and call in, the phone rings in India.

Every day my customers complain to me about the language barrier.

At least they can't install parts and calibrate from there.

[BlueSkyJaunte]

Yep. My dept is no longer permitted to hire US citizens. We can only hire from our India site (Bangalore? Can't remember). Trouble is, communiciation difficulties and time differences means two of them are less than one of us.

Fortunately I seem to have built some job security into the products I support (i.e., horrible documentation and extremely complicated to use).

Wonder when the US companies laying off US workers will realize they can't sell their ultra-expensive products anymore, because the deficit-spending American public no longer has the credit to afford toys? It's not like HP is going to sell $3000 computers in India, when they're paying their Indian employees $200 a week.

[widebody911]

And it's not about 'being competitive' - the cost savings go straight to the top in the form of bonuses and golden parachutes.

The middle class is headed for implosion. We're going to have an uber-wealthy upper class, and then everyone else clawing all over each other to mow their lawns, serve their coffee, clean their houses, etc.

Within our lifetimes we'll see the self-destruction of capitalism just like we saw the self-destruction of communism.

[BlueSkyJaunte]

Hmm. Time for me to start building in more "job security" features....

[tabs]

The ideology of the left eg the Democratic party is that the collective is better and the government knows the best way to spend your money.

The implosion of the middle class has been going on since the 1980's...it now takes 2 to work, burgeoning credit card debt etc etc....I've heard that same old story for years...he!! I even used to sell it like the holy gospel.....

End of Capitalism hardly.just more multinational's and globalization of economies thats all....it's more like the decline of the Nation State.....everybodies partial to their own neighborhood and sometimes they have squables though????????

[Doug Zielke]

Mmmm......then India must not be the hell hole we thought it was?

[widebody911]

Originally posted by Doug Zielke
Mmmm......then India must not be the hell hole we thought it was?

A friend of mine went for a month, and I was in a few weeks of going myself, before I landed a better job.

India is still a hellhole; all of the jobs are going to sanitized (for your profit) tech-meccas like Bangalore, while the rest of the country continues to live in corrupt squalor.

[dd74]

...learning to call french fries "freedom fries - " now that's a problem...

[widebody911]

Originally posted by dd74
...learning to call french fries "freedom fries - " now that's a problem...

So do you eat 'em with French dressing?

[nhurto]

The ideology of the left eg the Democratic party is that the collective is better and the government knows the best way to spend your money.

Last time I checked, the current administration has created the largest, most expensive government in the history of this country. That means higher government payrolls and more employees. Yep, the left is spending all our hard earned tax dollars.

As for the anti-India statements - if you have object to companies moving operations overseas, put your money where your mouth is and pay more for American made goods or companies with American only support offices.

I work for a software company and we employ quite a few Indian programers. I can honestly say, they are among the hardest workers we employ. Not only very capable, but a great work ethic and attitude.

Yes, we should keep a lot of jobs here. Unfortunatley, the President is sinking the economy for his own egotistical goals.

[BlueSkyJaunte]

Keep your eyes on this case, folks, it may (though probably not) change our "globalizing" employers' tunes:

http://news.com.com/2100-1011-993123.html?tag=fd_top