CA AB 1824 exhaust complaint

[look 171]

Anyone heard this? Its no longer a fixer ticket. A visit to the state ref and a huge fine (1000 bucks) for those who are busted. If they just want more money, just freaking ask. They will look up your azzhole and will fine something wrong. Its time to buy a Leaf and be done now.

About 6-8 years ago, I was almost caught in one of those road side rolling smog check deal. Lucky, I saw it early so I made a turn and escape into a side street and high tail outta there.

[Por_sha911]

Somebody has to pay for...

[fastfredracing]

What is allowed? Ive sort of been watching this out of the corner of my eye, and it sounds as if no exhaust mods are allowed at all ?

[chapo]

Good. Tired of douchebag Harley Aholes revving their stupid bikes. Loud bikes save lives, ok, you revving your bike so you can split lanes at 60 mph when traffic is stopped is BS. Splitting lanes on a bagger is lame to begin with. I race an open header 911, I don't drive it to work. keep the revs low and don't intentionally set off alarms and be an azzhat and all is good.

[fastfredracing]

Never mind , just read it

[flyenby]

The rolling smog test inspections are voluntary....you do not have to participate

[legion]

So glad I left California.

[Drbraunsr]

If it gets rid of those "fart can" ricers -- I'm all for it.

[Norm K]

Originally Posted by Por_sha911

Somebody has to pay for...

... all those Tesla rebates?

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[look 171]

Originally Posted by flyenby

The rolling smog test inspections are voluntary....you do not have to participate

i think they count every 5 or what ever the number is and you are to go on that damn thing. For all we know, if the CHP decides your car looks like it will fail, you are for sure get to run it on their rollers.

[look 171]

Originally Posted by Drbraunsr

If it gets rid of those "fart can" ricers -- I'm all for it.

Yeh, so what's going to happen to your turbo 3.2L car? They will run a decibel test on it. I think its 92 or below at 19.5" at 2000 or 2500 RPM. If you fail, (a simple hand clap is about 105 db) you are seeing the state ref and a fine of about 1000 bucks along with all other fees. You know, they are looking for smog stuff too. You got smog pump, cat, and.... Mod motor? Be careful what you wish for.

[fastfredracing]

I always dreamed of living in California .

[dafischer]

I disabused myself of that notion years ago.

[Brando]

The motorcycle communities have their collective panties in a wad over this too. It basically slaps a $1000 minimum fine on what was previously a fix-it ticket.

It's not about safety, or noise, or anything other than revenue generation. Also, it's written that this can only be a secondary offense - not the primary offense or reason for citation.

So the scenario being if a person is speeding or driving recklessly and pulled over for that (and cited for that), the modified exhaust could then be the second infraction. Most likely this will be used (as it was before) to cite people in large group rides/drives.

[speeder]

Originally Posted by legion

So glad I left California.

We're glad you left as well.

[scottmandue]

So you got ticketed? What car were you driving?

[speeder]

Nothing has changed wrt noise laws for motor vehicles, only the penalties. CA. is a huge place w gazillions of cars/trucks/bikes, generally speaking, noise laws are not enforced much. Whether this will change that, I kind of doubt it. A cop has to want to take the time to pull someone over for their exhaust when they usually have something better to do or simply don't feel like it, in my observations.

Loud Harleys and other bikes are everywhere. In certain parts of town, (Los Feliz...cough), every other douchebag on the road is in a new BMW M-car w straight pipes, farting through the paddle shifts. It peaked w the V-10s in the last M5 and M6 but now you get to hear the blow-off valves and loud boost. Some of the guys w less game have straight pipes on Accords and Acuras.

I don't see them getting pulled over but I'd laugh hard if I did. You have to be a real ass hole to get a noise ticket in L.A.

[Jim Richards]

Originally Posted by look 171

Yeh, so what's going to happen to your turbo 3.2L car? They will run a decibel test on it. I think its 92 or below at 19.5" at 2000 or 2500 RPM. If you fail, (a simple hand clap is about 105 db) you are seeing the state ref and a fine of about 1000 bucks along with all other fees. You know, they are looking for smog stuff too. You got smog pump, cat, and.... Mod motor? Be careful what you wish for.

Jeff, I thought it was 95 dBA at 20’. Compares to standing right next to a running belt sander, or standing 50’ from a running jackhammer. If lots of cars/bikes are exceeding this sound level, it can be unpleasant as hell. You live in a hilly area, like me, right? We’re frequently hearing people opening it up as they drive uphill a few blocks away. It’s loud, and can go on at all hours. I’m not a get off my lawn type about these noise levels, but life would be nicer without this jackassery.

BTW, isn’t Laguna Seca’s noise limit 92 dBA at 50’?

[sammyg2]

I just wrote to my representatives urging them to SUPPORT this bill.

just for giggles, here is what the bill actually says:

Existing law requires every motor vehicle subject to registration to be equipped with an adequate muffler in constant operation and properly maintained to prevent any excessive or unusual noise and prohibits a muffler or exhaust system from being equipped with a cutout, bypass, or similar device. Existing law further prohibits the modification of an exhaust system of a motor vehicle in a manner that will amplify or increase the noise emitted by the motor of the vehicle so that the vehicle exceeds existing noise limits.

So if you have straight pipes, or drag pipes, or cut-outs or uncorked exhaust, and feel that it is your right to be a punk and deny everyone else of their right to reasonable peace and quiet, I hope you get nailed.

There really is no reason for loud exhaust. It isn't a performance thing, I've built many high performance cars and all had intentionally quiet exhaust (including two turbocharged Porsches). Sleepers is the term used.
If your vehicle is faster than it sounds, you are cool.
If your vehicle is louder than it is fast, you are a douche bag.

[speeder]

Originally Posted by Jim Richards

Jeff, I thought it was 95 dBA at 20’. Compares to standing right next to a running belt sander, or standing 50’ from a running jackhammer. If lots of cars/bikes are exceeding this sound level, it can be unpleasant as hell. You live in a hilly area, like me, right? We’re frequently hearing people opening it up as they drive uphill a few blocks away. It’s loud, and can go on at all hours. I’m not a get off my lawn type about these noise levels, but life would be nicer without this jackassery.

BTW, isn’t Laguna Seca’s noise limit 92 dBA at 50’?

Yeppers, 92 or 90dbA, (not sure what the two-tier system means). It makes sense for HPDE events and private track days. It does not apply to professional races there.

Originally Posted by sammyg2

I just wrote to my representatives urging them to SUPPORT this bill.

just for giggles, here is what the bill actually says:



So if you have straight pipes, or drag pipes, or cut-outs or uncorked exhaust, and feel that it is your right to be a punk and deny everyone else of their right to reasonable peace and quiet, I hope you get nailed.

There really is no reason for loud exhaust. It isn't a performance thing, I've built many high performance cars and all had intentionally quiet exhaust (including two turbocharged Porsches). Sleepers is the term used.
If your vehicle is faster than it sounds, you are cool.
If your vehicle is louder than it is fast, you are a douche bag.

Note to self: Agreeing w Sammy again, must buy a lottery ticket today.