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id10t 01-03-2019 03:46 PM

First day at new job .... ugh
 
So today was my first day in my new position. Coming off 2 weeks off while the college has been closed.


Apparently, the guy in charge of supporting the developers has "lost" the master image, and hasn't re-created it yet. So I had to manually remove the prior dev's stuff.

Then one of the other devs comes in, and helps me start downloading code and setting up the dev environment. Total soup sandwich with circular dependencies, versioning issues, etc. Called in another dev to help things get set up.

So 3 of us devs spent almost 7 hours watching paint dry as files were copied, build, failed, re-copied, rebuilt, etc.

Additionally, I no longer have my lovely Linux workstation. The Win10 machine I was given for use has 3 generations newer CPU (i7-3600 vs. Core2 2.4ghz) and 4x as much RAM (32gb vs. 8) and is so much slower even doing simple things like launching a browser. I've been told that they are migrating to a Linux dev desktop, as soon as they figure out some issues. Since I teach the Linux courses, I may end up taking over that migration project, at least as a proof of concept.

And since they won't use Free and Open stuff, tomorrow I get to learn how to use IBM's bastardized version of Eclipse (called RDB) and their bastardized version of git (Jazz). Stupid PHBs buying support contracts for F/OSS software and we don't even get the support we pay for.

Next few weeks are gonna be crazy :D :cool:

lendaddy 01-03-2019 03:49 PM

As Toyota would say "enjoy the struggle", this is when you grow.

HardDrive 01-03-2019 03:54 PM

Why no open source? I work for a BIG bank, and we use a kinds of open source stuff. I would lose my mind developing on Windoze. Ubuntu or die.

id10t 01-03-2019 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HardDrive (Post 10304397)
Why no open source? I work for a BIG bank, and we use a kinds of open source stuff. I would lose my mind developing on Windoze. Ubuntu or die.

Yeah. Me too. Screw the Freedom - I just want my shiat to work!

What is sad is that they are all F/OSS projects, fork()'d by IBM and then re-branded and screwed with. The RDB ide is just a customized Eclipse with some extra plugins, Jazz for version control/work flow/issues/tickets is just re-branded git, WebSphere is simply a rebranded Apache Tomcat, etc.

Now that the "lead developer" who looked me in the face and asked "Whats a hash?" has left, I have high(er) hopes, but it will be a struggle for a while.

But whatever doesn't manage to kill me only makes me stronger :)

sammyg2 01-03-2019 04:16 PM

Oh cool, computer tech talk.....

The little teflon thing on the bottom of my mouse fell off.
I used super glue to put it back on.









I crack me up, even though I have no clue what you are talking about.




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id10t 01-03-2019 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sammyg2 (Post 10304435)
Oh cool, computer tech talk.....

The little teflon thing on the bottom of my mouse fell off.
I used super glue to put it back on.









I crack me up, even though I have no clue what you are talking about.




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We're talkin software - that is a hardware issue. Sounds like you need better LRF support (little rubber feet)

legion 01-03-2019 04:31 PM

At least tell me you aren't using GIT.

Git is is hugging piece of kiss.

https://itsfoss.com/swear-words-linux-kernel/

944 S2 01-03-2019 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lendaddy (Post 10304392)
As Toyota would say "enjoy the struggle", this is when you grow.

At my company our founder would say “you are lucky engineer”

masraum 01-03-2019 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by id10t (Post 10304385)
So today was my first day in my new position. Coming off 2 weeks off while the college has been closed.

Excellent, new and exciting!

Quote:

Apparently, the guy in charge of supporting the developers has "lost" the master image, and hasn't re-created it yet. So I had to manually remove the prior dev's stuff.

Then one of the other devs comes in, and helps me start downloading code and setting up the dev environment. Total soup sandwich with circular dependencies, versioning issues, etc. Called in another dev to help things get set up.

So 3 of us devs spent almost 7 hours watching paint dry as files were copied, build, failed, re-copied, rebuilt, etc.
Wow, that's fubar, but not terribly surprising

Quote:

The Win10 machine I was given for use has 3 generations newer CPU (i7-3600 vs. Core2 2.4ghz) and 4x as much RAM (32gb vs. 8) and is so much slower even doing simple things like launching a browser.
I don't think it should be. Do you have full permissions on your own workstation? You should poke around and optimize things. I suspect you could give it a good tune up. Hell, with everything that you've got, maybe you could set up a quick Linux VM to work on.
Quote:

Since I teach the Linux courses, I may end up taking over that migration project, at least as a proof of concept.
You're going to be running the place soon. I kind of like going into a place like this as long as people recognize that you want to improve things and they empower you to do that versus putting up constant road blocks. It's nice to take something that's crap, and give it some TLC and turn it into something nice. The sense of accomplishment and pride is awesome.

Quote:

Originally Posted by id10t (Post 10304434)
Now that the "lead developer" who looked me in the face and asked "Whats a hash?" has left, I have high(er) hopes, but it will be a struggle for a while.

But whatever doesn't manage to kill me only makes me stronger :)

Wow!

Did you give him this?

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Hash

Ingredients

2-3 Tbsp unsalted butter
1 medium onion, finely chopped (about 1 cup)
2-3 cups finely chopped, cooked corned beef
2-3 cups chopped cooked potatoes, preferably Yukon gold
Salt and pepper
Chopped fresh parsley

Method

1 Sauté onions in butter: Heat butter in a large skillet (preferably cast iron) on medium heat. Add the onion and cook a few minutes, until translucent.

2 Add potatoes and corned beef: Mix in the chopped corned beef and potatoes. Spread out evenly over the pan. Increase the heat to high or medium high and press down on the mixture with a metal spatula.

3 Cook until browned, then flip: Do not stir the potatoes and corned beef, but let them brown. If you hear them sizzling, this is good.

Use a metal spatula to peek underneath and see if they are browning. If nicely browned, use the spatula to flip sections over in the pan so that they brown on the other side. Press down again with the spatula.

If there is too much sticking, you can add a little more butter to the pan. Continue to cook in this manner until the potatoes and the corned beef are nicely browned.

4 Stir in parsley, black pepper to serve: Remove from heat, stir in chopped parsley. Add plenty of freshly ground black pepper, and add salt to taste.

Serve with fried or poached eggs for breakfast.

Note - If you have leftover cabbage from corned beef and cabbage, feel free to chop that up as well and add that to the hash.

id10t 01-03-2019 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by masraum (Post 10304459)
Excellent, new and exciting!


Wow, that's fubar, but not terribly surprising


I don't think it should be. Do you have full permissions on your own workstation? You should poke around and optimize things. I suspect you could give it a good tune up. Hell, with everything that you've got, maybe you could set up a quick Linux VM to work on.

You're going to be running the place soon. I kind of like going into a place like this as long as people recognize that you want to improve things and they empower you to do that versus putting up constant road blocks. It's nice to take something that's crap, and give it some TLC and turn it into something nice. The sense of accomplishment and pride is awesome.



Wow!

Did you give him this?


That was during a meeting about integrating changing the password for a user into the same password change script that changes the password in 4 other places.

Once she said that, I said "Never mind, I'll deal with it"

In my new position, one of my priorities is to program my old position out of a job. Easy enough, I coded it down to a handful of scripts that did my whole job in about 30 minutes per day, plus handling support phone calls... Now that I have the ability to tie into the actual student processes for registration, etc. it will be even easier. :D

pavulon 01-03-2019 05:09 PM

my computer frustrations are a little more basic:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1546567717.jpg

A930Rocket 01-03-2019 06:55 PM

Where’s that “I have no idea what you’re talking about, so here’s a picture of a bunny with a pancake on its head picture”.... 🤪

legion 01-03-2019 06:57 PM

What are you using to manage dependencies?

craigster59 01-03-2019 08:27 PM

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RSBob 01-03-2019 08:30 PM

Sorry to hear about the cluster you inherited with a dog of a machine to boot.

I have worked with devs for 25 years and heard countless horror stories like yours. When ever I inherited a project under way, I usually found such shoddy work that it was easier to start from scratch, but unfortunately you don’t have that option. Hang in there, it will get better.

Baron Corbin 01-03-2019 11:53 PM

How was the experience on the first day at a new job?

KFC911 01-04-2019 01:26 AM

Designing and implementing systems from scratch is easy peasy compared to being thrown into the middle of the ocean with no life support...

But you got this ;)!

id10t 01-04-2019 02:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by legion (Post 10304646)
What are you using to manage dependencies?

It is all Java with a little bit of EGL involved, generating to WebSphere.

Since it is Java, it will try to compile whatever is referenced and needed.

Unfortunately, at some point someone thought that having circular dependencies was better than fixing the errors/warnings, etc.

Getting caffeinated now to head in and tackle today's list of stuff....

JeremyD 01-04-2019 06:25 AM

If it was easy - they wouldn't need you

stealthn 01-04-2019 06:39 AM

Just outsource it all to Bangalore....


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