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MRM 02-22-2019 05:57 AM
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Originally Posted by cmccuist (Post 10364819)
MMR - MRM? Coincidence? JK!!

My daughter is a pediatrician. The anti-vaxers make her job very difficult.

Edit - ok this thread is about doubling up on the vaccines and taking them all at once, not anti-vaxers. I just wanted to point out the MRM-MMR thing. :)
I had to look twice when I saw the thread title too. :)

GH85Carrera 02-22-2019 05:58 AM
Vaccines are the best thing to happen to humans for preventing deaths. Smallpox and polio were eliminated and measles and mumps and so many child hood diseases were chased out of developed countries.

The entire autism bit is pure BS.

And shows like the one you mention are just pretending to be documentaries. You can find shows that conclude the earth is flat, and extraterrestrials are here and running the world.

I have seen several documentaries that conclude bigfoot is real. So fricking what. It is all just a way to make money.

kach22i 02-22-2019 06:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Joe Bob (Post 10364583)
Their are graphs showing the increase of Autism since the introduction of MMRs.
A couple of those graphs are shown in the link below.

Correlation Between Increases in Autism Prevalence and Introduction of New Vaccines
https://safeminds.org/vaccines-and-autism/correlation-between-increases-in-autism-prevalence-and-introduction-of-new-vaccines/

Other data (from Japan) says no causation correlation.


2005
Autism rises despite MMR ban in Japan
https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn7076-autism-rises-despite-mmr-ban-in-japan/
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Not one epidemiological study has revealed a link between the vaccine and autism. But until now they have all concentrated on what happened after MMR vaccination for children was introduced. Honda’s is the first to look at the autism rate after the MMR vaccine has been withdrawn. Japan withdrew it in April 1993 following reports that the anti-mumps component was causing meningitis (it plans to introduce another version).

URY914 02-22-2019 06:11 AM
Now hold it right there. Bigfoot is so real. I've seen the video.

kach22i 02-22-2019 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Joe Bob (Post 10364649)
Bxzzt. Wrong.

Those two morons are advocates of NO vaccinations. It’s the cocktail mix of all three that is causing the problems.

MMR. You don’t cite any studies or links to anything that says that the documentary is full of schizzle.
I have not seen any of the documentaries in question but so-called booster shots comprised of multiple vaccinations may contain forms of mercury and or aluminum.

Each vaccination taken individually greatly lowers the health risks, veterinarians around the world know this, why don't doctors?

Do farmers put up with it less than parents?

Is there more money in the human vaccinations than with animals - follow the money?

April 2018
J.B. Handley: International scientists have found autism's cause. What will Americans do?
https://jbhandleyblog.com/home/2018/4/1/international2018
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“…while the aluminium content of each of the 5 brains [of people with autism] was shockingly high it was the location of the aluminium in the brain tissue which served as the standout observation…The new evidence strongly suggests that aluminium is entering the brain in ASD [autism spectrum disorders] via pro-inflammatory cells which have become loaded up with aluminium in the blood and/or lymph, much as has been demonstrated for monocytes at injection sites for vaccines including aluminium adjuvants.”
EDIT:

2012
Is Livestock Production Industry Keeping Mercury In Vaccinations?
https://www.ageofautism.com/2012/10/is-livestock-production-industry-keeping-mercury-in-vaccinations.html
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In my ongoing efforts to end thimerosal use at the international level in a treaty being negotiated on mercury, I find pressure coming into the negotiations to keep thimerosal approved for use in human vaccines originating from pressure to maintain its use in animal vaccines. The upshot in this comes from the requirement that in order to legally use thimerosal in animal vaccines, it has to be considered safe for humans as well. [1] If taken out of human vaccines, this action would support the arguments against safety in humans.

tabs 02-22-2019 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by URY914 (Post 10364991)
Now hold it right there. Bigfoot is so real. I've seen the video.
But have you really seen the Artesians? Talked to them?

tabs 02-22-2019 06:39 AM
If you want scary you should research Madcow..i personally think that the American public is not being told everything or is being purposefully misled and that the threat is more serious.

There is a reason why Japan has banned American beef.

Tobra 02-22-2019 06:43 AM
Creutzfeldt Jakob man, it will do you in

kach22i 02-22-2019 06:48 AM
2016
Autism increase mystery solved? No, it’s not vaccines, GMOs, glyphosate—or organic foods
https://geneticliteracyproject.org/2016/09/22/autism-increase-mystery-solved-no-its-not-vaccines-gmos-glyphosate-or-organic-foods/
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But correlation is not causation. By cherry-picking the data, one could show that almost all of the alleged causes of autism that rose over the past 10-15 years correlate with the rise in autism cases. As, in fact, does the rise in chemtrail sightings, terrorist attacks on U.S. soil, the New England Patriot’s cumulative win total—and organic food sales:..............

So what does the latest evidence show? There now is intriguing evidence that there in fact has been no dramatic rise in autism after all..............

Changes in reporting practices can account for most (60 percent) of the increase in the observed prevalence of ASDs in children born from 1980 through 1991 in Denmark. Hence, the study supports the argument that the apparent increase in ASDs in recent years is in large part attributable to changes in reporting practices..............

The idea that increased diagnosis contributes to higher prevalence of a disease is not new at all.
This is an amazingly similar observation made about the so-called opioid crisis, it was a change in how data was combined and classified.

kach22i 02-22-2019 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted by tabs (Post 10365023)
If you want scary you should research Madcow..i personally think that the American public is not being told everything or is being purposefully misled and that the threat is more serious.

There is a reason why Japan has banned American beef.
I agree.

I eat very little beef, almost nothing. However this was because it started upsetting my stomach about 8 years ago.

The reports of a milder form of prion disease being associated with Alzheimer's is alarming.

2009
Mad Cow And Alzheimer's Have Surprising Link
https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=101145687

kach22i 02-22-2019 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Tobra (Post 10365031)
Creutzfeldt Jakob man, it will do you in
Another prion protein disease.

Oh just great.

wdfifteen 02-22-2019 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by mepstein (Post 10364736)
Because if we discount real science in favor of hysteria, we might as well get all our information from the national enquirer.
We have enough kids getting sick because their parents don't believe in science now. I prefer getting the kids vaccinated any way possible to butting heads over where the parents get their information and what they believe.

Joe Bob 02-22-2019 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by tabs (Post 10365023)
If you want scary you should research Madcow..i personally think that the American public is not being told everything or is being purposefully misled and that the threat is more serious.

There is a reason why Japan has banned American beef.
Let's grind up spare bits of beef that we can't sell and feed it back to the cows....what could go wrong?

Here hold my beer.

They do the same with chicken parts, "I heard someone say that once in an elevator"....

kach22i 02-22-2019 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by wdfifteen (Post 10365052)
We have enough kids getting sick because their parents don't believe in science now. I prefer getting the kids vaccinated any way possible to butting heads over where the parents get their information and what they believe.
I agree, but why not make it one shot at a time spread out over time like they do in most of Europe and as they do for livestock?

The big pharma companies making money off of MMR has a powerful lobby, and they are destroying many lives.

We should hang them high, and not blindly injecting a defective product into innocent children.

Some may suffer, but it's for the greater good - I'm not buying it, and neither should you.

flipper35 02-22-2019 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by MRM (Post 10364565)
The MMR vaxine conspiracy was propagated by a doctor who was later proven to hav falsified his entire supposed research. There is NO (repeat NO) research that contects vaccines to any disease or condition, let alone autism. But there is an abundance of documented cases of children dying from measles and mumps or coming down with polio - all infectious diseases that we were supposed to have banished in the 1970s - because of parents who refused to vaccinate their children. The Somoli community in Minneapolis is ground zero for refusing vaccines, and not coincidentally, is ground zero for an epidemic of MMR outbreaks.

Did I mention that there is no science supporting health hazards of vaccines?
He falsified his research specifically to sell his own vaccinations.

Joe Bob 02-22-2019 09:47 AM
Thats my point!

flipper35 02-22-2019 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Joe Bob (Post 10364583)
Have you watched the movie? If it is all BS, why is it still running on Prime?

Also it isn't NOT being vaccinated, it's the use of MMRs as opposed to single inoculations. Their are graphs showing the increase of Autism since the introduction of MMRs.

It looks indisputable to me....there have inquiries in the Senate then have done zero since then. One of the graphs predicts 80% autistic symptoms with ten years or so. No race is susceptible more than others except for gender.

Researchers are destroying their records.
Keep in mind that the way they diagnose retardation, autism and such have changed significantly as well.

Geneman 02-22-2019 10:00 AM
please please please joe. do not perpetuate this. the anti vaxxers are responsible for thousands of deaths. the dis-info hawking by the celebs is the most irresponsible thing to come out of hollywood in years....frank

Joe Bob 02-22-2019 10:04 AM
I'm not dissing vaccinations. I am all for preventive inoculations.

Only that one should be wary of combo vaxes. A big slug of chemicals introduced at an early age can be devastating to an infant.

flipper35 02-22-2019 10:31 AM
OK, I just took a look at the movie and it is from Andrew Wakefield, the fraud that started this whole mess to sell his own patented vaccine and the study was paid by lawyers suing the MMR manufacturer. Tabs is right in the case where it is all about the money.

I suggest you do a little research on him.


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