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If it is all BS, why is it still running on Prime?
JB, my only comment on this thread is "That's ^^ your arguement?" Because Prime has a movie available to watch, it must be true? Come on dude. You're better than that.

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Old 02-22-2019, 10:38 AM
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I'm not dissing vaccinations. I am all for preventive inoculations.

Only that one should be wary of combo vaxes. A big slug of chemicals introduced at an early age can be devastating to an infant.
I agree, I see it the same way.
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I agree, but why not make it one shot at a time spread out over time like they do in most of Europe and as they do for livestock?
Why not make it optional? Or is it now?
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I got to believe if there were any, ANY, benefit to having three individual vaccines compared one single one, the pharma industry would JUMP at the chance to have people visit the doctor 3 times instead of once....think of the profits!
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I think the only way JoeBob will understand is if Gogar goes back in time to 2013 and makes an Xtranormal video with everything in this thread.
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I got to believe if there were any, ANY, benefit to having three individual vaccines compared one single one, the pharma industry would JUMP at the chance to have people visit the doctor 3 times instead of once....think of the profits!
I don't think the companies holding the patent rights to MMR would be so eager to agree with you.

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n the United States, the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP), the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP), and the American Academy of Family Practioners (AAFP) provide guidelines on vaccination and on the use of combination vaccines. ACIP recommends that “combined measles-mumps-rubella (MMR) vaccine generally should be used whenever any of its component vaccines is indicated.” Receiving MMR vaccine rather than the separate component vaccines results in fewer shots and decreases the chance of delays in protection against all three diseases (measles, mumps and rubella). The AAP also recommends that combined MMR vaccine be used for immunization of U.S. children against measles, mumps, and rubella.
I say follow the money, the government does not hold the patents but they make the rules. I'm sure it's as non-corrupt as any other part of the US government.

Does the CDC Own Any Patents on Vaccines?
https://vaxopedia.org/2018/05/19/does-the-cdc-own-any-patents-on-vaccines/
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They do buy vaccines. A lot of vaccines.

In 2017, the CDC immunization program spent just over $4.8 billion dollars, including $4.1 billion on the Vaccines for Children program..............

OK, so the CDC has patents…

Well, not exactly the CDC. The United States of America as represented by the Secretary of the Department of Health and Human Services has patents…

Why patent these technologies?

Because they were discovered by CDC researchers and if their intellectual properly is not patented, then someone else could patent it, use it or sell it, and keep others from using it.........
Like I said I've read articles that said farmers didn't want multi-strain vaccines in their animals because of the side effects. And that in parts of Europe they have gone back to single strain vaccines for children. I have been unable to find the exact articles I read - it was a while back. However if anyone finds something different please feel free to post it.

When the CDC makes the standard of care an MMR I'm not exactly sure what choice parents have and the doctors have other than just not doing it. Can they single vaccinate and not get in trouble?

If no alternative is available that is where I have issues.

Mercury, aluminum and who knows what else is bad enough, but a cocktail mixed together that was never intended to be mixed together just doesn't sound safe to me.
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I don't think the companies holding the patent rights to MMR would be so eager to agree with you.

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https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/hcp/clinical-resources/mmr-faq-12-17-08.html


I say follow the money, the government does not hold the patents but they make the rules. I'm sure it's as non-corrupt as any other part of the US government.

Does the CDC Own Any Patents on Vaccines?
https://vaxopedia.org/2018/05/19/does-the-cdc-own-any-patents-on-vaccines/

Like I said I've read articles that said farmers didn't want multi-strain vaccines in their animals because of the side effects. And that in parts of Europe they have gone back to single strain vaccines for children. I have been unable to find the exact articles I read - it was a while back. However if anyone finds something different please feel free to post it.

When the CDC makes the standard of care an MMR I'm not exactly sure what choice parents have and the doctors have other than just not doing it. Can they single vaccinate and not get in trouble?

If no alternative is available that is where I have issues.

Mercury, aluminum and who knows what else is bad enough, but a cocktail mixed together that was never intended to be mixed together just doesn't sound safe to me.
Have you ever looked into what is in a flu shot?

In regard to the video, it is from a man who is a known fraud.
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Various vaccines are grouped because they show synergetic response and better protection results.

Think of a tune up. Put a tired car on the dyno. Change the plugs. Measure. X hp improvement. Y hp for wires. Z for the air filter. Do all three at once and you can see more than X+Y+Z since combined increases the ram charge more than each individually.

Lastly, toxins require a specific threshold amount to have an effect. You can go get exposed to Sarin gas all day if below a certain concentration. This is why we have time weighted exposure limits. There just wasn't enough thermosil (the mercury preservative compound that isn't used anymore) to hurt you.

IMHO, the rise in Autism is that it is now diagnosed.

I was an early ADHD kid. 'Before me' (my generation), boys were boys and needed to be run into the ground so they slept at night. Once a diagnosis, ADHD was EVERYWHERE. Its starting to die back at this point. Today, Autism is the soup of the day.

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