I’m with 55, if I had to kill my own food, I would probably be a vegetarian.

I love a good cheeseburger and bacon, but as I get older and think more about the cows and pigs, I eat more vegetables.

Protein is much more difficult without meat.

Haha.

I’m friends with hardened vegans. They don’t eat meat cuz they love animals. We have a mutual loving respect for each other. I don’t talk about hunting, they don’t make me eat quinoa ( I joke)

I am blown away by their resolve. They are a commitment and stuck to it. Total kudos.

It’s the “tweeners”. Meat lovers that come after my hunts that rub me wrong. I’ve shared many great meals with vegans.

Just me and my dumb opinion. I hope everyone that partakes of meat embrace the source. Maybe then the industry would change for the better.

Vegan or vegetarian?... there's a pretty big difference.
I could totally do vegetarian... Vegan.. not so much.

My friends are vegans. Nothing that involved an animal.

Do the environment a favor and shoot a feral hog (or 50 or 'em). Butcher / cook / eat.

No meal tastes better than the one you caught and your mother in law fried. We catch porgy (scup), bluefish (most folks are 50/50 on it), flounder and fluke (they have pretty tight size regulations around them so we don’t get to eat that many). Ate a sea robin once and only once.

Holy smokes that'd be tough! They have beers that are off limits!! Then there's the no Ranch dressing that'd be a deal killer for me!
What would I dip my hot wings in? Oh... wait.. :D

LOL. I like my wings naked. No dressing. I’m only step closer than you.

We do not eat a ton of red meat in our house, we do like it though.

We stick to chicken, fish and pork and try to buy organic.


We were getting our meat from a the local green market. It is just over the top expensive. Then I found this, I have no affiliation with this company, I am on my second order from them and I am immensely impressed with the quality of the food.

https://www.butcherbox.com/

No blue cheese? No ranch? THE HORROR!
And then add in that certain beers are off limits... I'm out!!

I'm with Ted Nugent on that Vegan for the animals thing. All kinds of animals are killed so they can grow fields of soy beans without the nuisance of animals. Makes them hippocrits.

Yep...me too! Though I've had Marlin for 40 years...it's been almost that long since I've hunted. I'll keep, clean, and eat an occasional fish (VERY rare)....barbless hooks, and it pisses me off if I let them "eat" the hook...and I quit ;)

But I will kill if I must.....predators, plants, or dinner....YMMV

My younger cousins named their pet hogs one spring....they only did that once :).....

My parents grew up on farms....everything they consumed, they raised...I'm a "city boy"... once removed.

You bet there is and I couldn't be vegan. I have a cousin that is and he's as lean as one can be w/o being emaciated. He is also a nutrition coach.

We don't talk. :D

The way I figure it you guys are going to keep eating beef so why waste all that leather? ;) Good belts, workboots and nice car interiors are not off my radar. Cheap imitations are.

(Fish) Not the same. Facil.

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I'm not a vegan but I only rarely eat meat, chicken pork, dairy, eggs or processed foods. I never eat fish - fish live, eat and breath their own feces and are full of mercury. Animal products inludng dairy and eggs are proven to cause cancer, heart disease and diabetes. Chicken is no better than beef or pork in causing disease.

Being vegan does not mean being healthy. Some vegans eat a ton of oils of various kinds and a lot of processed foods with lots of salt. A typical vegan diet is only marginally better for health than the SAD (Standard American Diet). Oreos and Coke are vegan....

A WFPB (whole food plant based diet) takes vegan a step further. There are no animal products, no or very little oil, and zero processed ingredients. This diet is proven to reduce, eliminate or reverse cardiovascular disease, various types of cancer and type ll diabetes.

More information than any of you want to know, I'm sure.

If the health aspects of eating plant based are not compelling, then I urge you to watch Dominion. It is eye opening.


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One more thing - vegan is a lifestyle. Eating a WFPD diet is for people concerned about health.

My niece got sick of being hunched over a laptop being ever so correct about everything with her vegan guy. She dumped him and has hooked up with a kind hearted regular guy who takes her away for the weekends to the wopwops (you'll have to google that) on fishing and the occasional hunting trips. She's loving life and it's doing her good to get some fresh air and to see some of the country.

She said her health has way picked up since stopping being a vegan, and now belongs to a ex-vegan (recovering vegan LOL) web group. She said she can spot a vegan by their bad skin and hair.

Me: steak pie with cheese.

"Burger King is officially testing a 100% meatless, plant-based Whopper made with the increasingly popular Impossible burger patties."
Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy?
What's next? A Dave's classic triple veggie burger? Is NOTHING sacred?

I grew up with it and I'm not opposed, just not interested in being the abattoir.

We shot hogs. They were just too hard to kill otherwise. Steers were harder to kill with a bullet, so we roped them and pulled them up against a post. Dad would cut their throats with an axe.
We raised rabbits and when it was time to eat one my grandfather would pull one out of the cage, grab it by the head and spin its body around to break its neck.
My mom put two nails in a stump and stretched the chicken's neck through it and cut it off. Nowadays they say it is better to cut diagonally through the head.
I plan to raise some meat chickens this spring and I already have a place lined up to butcher them.

I like meat. Been there, done it, got the T-shirt, ready to let somebody else get bloody.

As an aside, I was invited by some Muslim friends to an Eid al-Adhal religious ceremony. The congregants sit around a kind of arena. A few (3or 4) lambs are brought out and everybody watches as their throats are cut and they run around spewing blood until they bleed out and die. Once they are dead they are cut into thirds and distributed.
Not to get too political, but we here are talking about how yucky it is to butcher an animal for food while some children are taught from a young age to watch butchery as a religious rite. Maybe we are too blood-averse for our own good.