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LeeH 06-03-2019 11:42 PM

Is it time to adjust the photo size limit on Pelican?
 
Yeah, I know... more storage = more cost. However, anyone with a modern smartphone cannot directly upload a pic due to the 5mp limit... that was started many, many years ago when we were all carrying flip phones. Would be nice to just drop a photo in from my phone without having to resize it.

Bugsinrugs 06-04-2019 12:24 AM

I don’t even know how to resize pictures.

Bill Douglas 06-04-2019 12:30 AM

I don't have a smartphone so I don't know, but can't the settings be changed on the phone so all pic's are say 3mp?

KFC911 06-04-2019 12:34 AM

Agreed....I can't resize on my phone....so I don't even post cute puppy pics. That's just SO wrong :(

Bigger boobies too ;)!

HobieMarty 06-04-2019 02:10 AM

You can download a “resizer” app on your phone if you want to resize pictures. I upload pictures on here from my phone and have never had to resize one.


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KFC911 06-04-2019 02:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HobieMarty (Post 10479769)
You can download a “resizer” app on your phone if you want to resize pictures. I upload pictures on here from my phone and have never had to resize one.


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LOL :)...

T-Rex

id10t 06-04-2019 04:05 AM

5mp is great for print, but for web it is way overkill. Not only that but full size 5mp images would stretch the screen, etc.

red-beard 06-04-2019 04:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by id10t (Post 10479833)
5mp is great for print, but for web it is way overkill. Not only that but full size 5mp images would stretch the screen, etc.

Pelican re-sizes the photos automatically, so they do not store the large images. The issue is the forum software has an upload size limit. That size limit was built into the software from back before most cameras could do pictures this large. Raising the limit to 10MB will allow modern camera phone pictures to be uploaded.

The software should also be updated to allow other than jpg, gif and bmp files.

KFC911 06-04-2019 04:47 AM

But I gotta update my phone to do that too!

T-Rex Sr

GH85Carrera 06-04-2019 05:15 AM

One option, get the app, Tapatalk. It lets you upload a photo, and you can specify how big it is on screen. The bad news of that is the photo is not upload to Pelican, it goes to the Tapatalk site, and is deleted after a several months, so if you look at the thread a later, the image is gone and it is just a box where the photo was. The one good think about Tapatalk photos is it will not upload the photo sideways or upside down.

For most photos I prefer to use my computer anyway. Photos taken at your house will most likely have your Geo-location in the photo. So it is easy to figure out just where you were when the photo was taken. If you are out and about in a public place it does not matter. It you are shooting pictures of your gun collection or cars at home, it is not a good idea. Once the photo is on the net, it is in the wild and out there. Who knows what bad guy will get it.

I use a Windows 10 computer. It is easy to strip the photo location info.

Right click on the photo, and go to properties at the bottom of the list, look for Details tab at the top of the properties box, At the bottom of the window is a blue link "Remove Properties and Personal Information" so click that. That brings up yet another box. Just click the second of two choices, the Remove the following properties from the file. Now the easiest is hit select all, or you can scroll down You will find the GPS location, select those and click the OK button. The GPS info is deleted, but the camera exposure and other info is preserved.


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1559653801.jpg


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1559653828.JPG

It is fairly easy to find out the location of that photo of the 918 was a parking lot in Eureka Springs It was shot on 11/11/2017, it was shot with an iPhone 6S F/22 1/420th exposure, ISO 25, 29mm lens.

gtc 06-04-2019 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GH85Carrera (Post 10479893)
It is fairly easy to find out the location of that photo of the 918 was a parking lot in Eureka Springs....

Great, now i know where to find that car so I can rip those stupid graphics off of it.

svandamme 06-04-2019 09:12 AM

just imgr upload if you want bigger pics and stuff

current limit is plenty big and still fits on screen, bigger won't fit no more and then it's annoying

LeeH 06-04-2019 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by svandamme (Post 10480173)
just imgr upload if you want bigger pics and stuff

current limit is plenty big and still fits on screen, bigger won't fit no more and then it's annoying

I would expect that the software would take any image size, adjust it to a reasonable resolution and size, then remove the original from storage.

GH85Carrera 06-04-2019 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gtc (Post 10480166)
Great, now i know where to find that car so I can rip those stupid graphics off of it.

That one was factory delivered with that paint scheme. One of two like it.

HobieMarty 06-04-2019 02:48 PM

Oh well, my bad, I use Tapatalk to post pics on here. Ooops. [emoji16]


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svandamme 06-04-2019 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeeH (Post 10480368)
I would expect that the software would take any image size, adjust it to a reasonable resolution and size, then remove the original from storage.

That would be hugely wasteful on cpu and bandwith for the Pelican server.
Only way it makes sense if it happens on the uploaders side.

KFC911 06-05-2019 02:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by svandamme (Post 10480880)
That would be hugely wasteful on cpu and bandwith for the Pelican server.
Only way it makes sense if it happens on the uploaders side.

BSheet ;)! I may pick you up as a hitchhiker but this old dawg would just "fix it"....sorta like Wayne would have done :).

It's not a big deal, nor would it cost much....by comparison to folks like me saying....see ya :(!

KFC911 06-05-2019 03:41 AM

And furthermore....if I get stuck in desktop mode for the eleventieth dozen time on my damn phone...how can I post a pic of of the door hittin' my azz on the way out?

I demand a refund...or else ;)!

Por_sha911 06-05-2019 06:14 AM

Is it time to adjust the photo size limit on Pelican?
 
Oh gawd PLEASE NO.
We have one member that already posts pics so large you have to scroll into the next county to see it all.

red-beard 06-05-2019 06:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by svandamme (Post 10480880)
That would be hugely wasteful on cpu and bandwidth for the Pelican server.
Only way it makes sense if it happens on the uploaders side.

It already happens. Any file uploaded is reduced by the server software.

Here is an example

4,858,444 bytes before, so I uploaded almost 5MB (4608 x 3456)

53,137 bytes after (800x600)

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1559744777.jpg

cstreit 06-05-2019 06:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Por_sha911 (Post 10481102)
Oh gawd PLEASE NO.
We have one member that already posts pics so large you have to scroll into the next county to see it all.

True - but it also should be easy enough for the software to auto-scale pictures that are too large.

responsive design website does this.

GH85Carrera 06-05-2019 07:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Por_sha911 (Post 10481102)
Oh gawd PLEASE NO.
We have one member that already posts pics so large you have to scroll into the next county to see it all.

Those giant images are not uploaded to Pelican. They are links to other web sites that host the photo. Any file uploaded to Pelican, is resized as Readbeard mentioned above.

KFC911 06-05-2019 07:03 AM

Archaic limit, resize anything reasonable down to 5m...asleep at the wheel :(?

I'd tattletail to Wayne....ask Sammy, but it ain't the same....no mas.

A930Rocket 06-05-2019 05:20 PM

I always have to resize my pictures to post on PPOT on my iPhone 8.

It’s a drag, so I don’t post as many.

sugarwood 06-05-2019 05:50 PM

LeeH,
Adjust the resolution on your camera settings.
There is no need to take a photo larger than 5 MP.
Your new phone is probably set to 20+ MP

GH85Carrera 06-05-2019 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sugarwood (Post 10481923)
LeeH,
Adjust the resolution on your camera settings.
There is no need to take a photo larger than 5 MP.
Your new phone is probably set to 20+ MP



Poppycock.

With modern computers and storage, take the highest resolution image possible. Most people take pictures of loved ones often. If you get the right smiles and want s nice print for the wall, you will want every pixel, especially if you crop it a little. A nice photo looks better at high resolution.

David 06-05-2019 10:49 PM

While we’re at it, how about PM number limits?

sugarwood 06-06-2019 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GH85Carrera (Post 10481996)
Poppycock.

With modern computers and storage, take the highest resolution image possible. Most people take pictures of loved ones often. If you get the right smiles and want s nice print for the wall, you will want every pixel, especially if you crop it a little. A nice photo looks better at high resolution.

Dead wrong.

A good phone screen is 4 megapixels

A 4k monitor is 8 megapixels.
Almost no one uses a 4k monitor
1920x1080 is 2 megapixels

Cut the setting down to 5 MP and your problem is solved.

No reason to take a photo beyond that unless you are cropping.
If he's posting to a forum from his phone, he's not cropping or printing

john70t 06-06-2019 01:30 PM

I'm still looking at my old 165x320 format or whatever video (which I took way back in the early days) on the big LCD monitor and I still want more.

Someday artificial intelligence synth programs will progress to being able to sharpen up anything greater than a blur to a 'T', but that is still a ways off.

KFC911 06-06-2019 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sugarwood (Post 10482807)
Dead wrong.

A good phone screen is 4 megapixels

A 4k monitor is 8 megapixels.
Almost no one uses a 4k monitor
1920x1080 is 2 megapixels

Cut the setting down to 5 MP and your problem is solved.

No reason to take a photo beyond that unless you are cropping.
If he's posting to a forum from his phone, he's not cropping or printing

Go listen to disco...on 8-track :).

"They" will eventually get off "their" azz and fix this by raising the mb limit for uploads from 5 to "who gives a flip"...then resize it down to what is reasonable.

Any other suggestion is...well

Disco ;)

GH85Carrera 06-06-2019 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sugarwood (Post 10482807)
Dead wrong.

A good phone screen is 4 megapixels

A 4k monitor is 8 megapixels.
Almost no one uses a 4k monitor
1920x1080 is 2 megapixels

Cut the setting down to 5 MP and your problem is solved.

No reason to take a photo beyond that unless you are cropping.
If he's posting to a forum from his phone, he's not cropping or printing



Print a 8x10 from a 5 MP Camera then from a 8 MP then a 16 MP on a true high quality printer photo printer. You will se a clear difference. Memory is dirt cheap. Shoot at max resolution. Once you throw away resolution it is gone forever. Easy to reduce res, impossible to get it back.
After 40 years in the photo industry, max res is all I use. And I have a 27 inch 4K monitor for my computer.

sugarwood 06-06-2019 05:27 PM

He's not printing anything. He's posting to an internet forum. Always know the use case

KFC911 06-07-2019 03:15 AM

99% of the pics on my phone are between 5-7mb in storage...at the optimal resolution.

They WILL fix it....or I'll go find Wayne eventually...or just vanish.

You funny SW ;)

red-beard 06-07-2019 04:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC911 (Post 10483336)
99% of the pics on my phone are between 5-7mb in storage...at the optimal resolution.

They WILL fix it....or I'll go find Wayne eventually...or just vanish.

You funny SW ;)

Who is this Wayne person?

KFC911 06-07-2019 04:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by red-beard (Post 10483366)
Who is this Wayne person?

He couldn't post a selfie....went AWOL!

Executive Order Numero Uno?

Remember....I tapped the KEG...you owe us ;)!

MBAtarga 06-07-2019 04:53 AM

I don't understand all this talk about MP's this and MP's that. I don't know what type of monitors you guys are using.
I'm perfectly happy with my Amber VGA Hercules monitor.

GH85Carrera 06-07-2019 05:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sugarwood (Post 10483086)
He's not printing anything. He's posting to an internet forum. Always know the use case

I understand. But when that great photo comes along, one may want to print it for the wall.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1559913727.jpg

I was just driving down the highway, and looked out my window at the flowers and the view of mountains. I pulled a quick u turn at the next intersection, and went back to this scenic overlook. No one else was around. I left the car running, backup up, click. I shot it enjoyed the view for a minute, and drove on to Charlotte, NC. This is 100% as shot, no Photoshop work. This image is indeed scaled down for the web site, and is actually the image I use as my "wallpaper" 3840x2160. The full res file is even sharper. I have a 24x36 print of it on the wall.

KFC911 06-07-2019 05:34 AM

SW luvs MP3 audio too ;).

Whether pics, audio, or any "data capture" of a moment in time....don't assume what it's destination might be...

And this discussuon is just silly...

FIX IT ....in green :)

red-beard 06-07-2019 05:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC911 (Post 10483395)
He couldn't post a selfie....went AWOL!

Executive Order Numero Uno?

Remember....I tapped the KEG...you owe us ;)!

You do know Wayne sold out, right? SmileWavy


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