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Going to try a Black Powder Pistol Match Tomorrow

I have been shooting the 1st Sunday Black Powder matches now for 7 or 8 years and have won my share. I usually have shot except when I had my quad-bypass and cancer surgeries/two months of radiation and several other "minor" operations and such. Tomorrow I plan to enter the monthly "Pistol" match and I plan to use the birthday present my wife got me last month. I shot them several weeks ago and the target (home made Shoot-N-See) really suffered! This was from 3 cylinders full at 20 yards, 30 grains of Goex FFG and a 0.454 pure lead round ball. If the rules full international BP pistol's we'll shoot with one hand which I can do with either one. Here's the target:

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A pistol match with Black Power. All the best to you.
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1) cool! How did it go?
2) love that you shoot ambidextrous!
3) tell us how to make the targets please!
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1) cool! How did it go?
2) love that you shoot ambidextrous!
3) tell us how to make the targets please!
Plus pics!!!
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Which revolver are you using, John?

My Ruger Old Army outshoots most of my modern revolvers, at least for a couple of cylinders before I have to clean it. Unfortunately, its adjustable sights preclude its use in black powder matches, although Ruger did produce fixed sight versions for awhile.
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Also looking forward to hearing how your match went. Those are beautiful pistols.
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Which revolver are you using, John?

My Ruger Old Army outshoots most of my modern revolvers, at least for a couple of cylinders before I have to clean it. Unfortunately, its adjustable sights preclude its use in black powder matches, although Ruger did produce fixed sight versions for awhile.
Go to the Remington 1858.
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Well I did not do well mainly due to lack of experience shooting those Remington's. After one cylinder full they got super hot, so hot it was not possible to change cylinders so I switched to the other pistol and it got hot which a couple of the shooters told me is a characteristic of the closed top revolvers. So on a target the first 4 or 5 shots were within the area others were shooting but the last two round balls would "fly". After 20 shots I got pretty tired as one handed shooting is harder than it looks so I'll try several things:
- lower powder load from 30 to 20.
- try bullets instead of round balls.
- try shooting as a "single shot" which several shooters had custom single shot percussion pistols, one with a custom made stock that was made for his hand.

- do more research on what it takes to make them shoot as there is a 1858 Remington forum and I and looked at less than 10% of it so far.


But it was FUN!!!
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Boy, you want to talk about "hot" - try loading and shooting a few cylinders of black powder loaded .45 Colt, or rip through a magazine of black powder loaded .45-70 in an '86 Winchester. You don't have to slow down and reload these as slowly and methodically as the muzzle loader or the cap'n'ball gun. The ability to just stuff more cartridges in speeds things up to the point where heat becomes a real problem. Most folks have no idea how hot black powder burns, temperature wise, and how much the gun soaks up. We're talking burn your hand, damn near exhaust manifold hot after 3-4 cylinders full. Smokeless doesn't even come close.

Are you using grease or a wad (like a Wonder Wad) to prevent chain firing? I've found grease just melts from the last few chambers when emptying the cylinder, like you would in a match. That's when the flyers start. Try a Wonder Wad under the ball. The lube still melts, but the fiber keeps it contained. I find I can shoot long strings without flyers this way.

Oh, and bring a leather work glove or an oven mitt. It really helps when reloading after they get so hot.

As far as the fatigue, dry firing for maybe ten minutes every day will soon build the endurance you need. This was a big deal when I was younger and still shooting Bullseye, or "2700" as we called it. 270 rounds, all one handed off hand for a match. It hurts just thinking about it...

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