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svandamme 06-25-2019 09:13 AM

I have to question if that still works fully analog and if that still checks all the boxes for what Vinyl listening people really want.

To be honest, I do kinda like it when there is an occasional crack or pop on an old Jazz or Blues record...
I don't want perfect sound , i just want the lack of perfection or easy use of LP's

Music is always there, car, computer, playlists radio.. i don't listen to it properly

But with a record.. i have to do some effort..
put the old record away
find new one get it out of the sleeve..
throw it on the platter,
turn on amp
turn dial to loud
put the needle on the record

And then I listen with a lot more focus and enjoyment...


Most people have so many records anyway that they rotate them to the point they'll never wear out..

Sure if you have 1 record on repeat for ever.. get that lasuuuuuur :D

serene911 06-25-2019 09:43 AM

My turntable: B&O Beogram 5500 Linear tracking arm
 
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svandamme 06-25-2019 09:49 AM

Does the linear arm in any way change or improve the way the needle sits on the groove?
are they more or less sensitive to skipping?

svandamme 06-25-2019 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oomkin (Post 10502413)
There's more to be said. I checked eBay; the Technics is outside his stated price range, even used. A nearby store may have it for less, but that is not guaranteed. On eBay, $400 and up with no cartridge; $500 and up with a cartridge. (Unless you're after a $260 turntable with no cartridge, a missing foot, and a broken cueing lever. What a bargain.)

SL-1900 is very similar, but more home use spec..
it also has pitch control, but not in a slider which DJ's want.

And much cheaper...

Alternative for the SL1200 range is a JB systems Disco 1100
It's pretty much an SL1200 clone, I had em when i was 16 and was doing local DJ stuff.. Other the the snobbery of it aint a real technichs, they were pretty equal to the Technics.. but no , not for audiofiles ..

serene911 06-25-2019 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by svandamme (Post 10502999)
Does the linear arm in any way change or improve the way the needle sits on the groove?
are they more or less sensitive to skipping?

The linear tracking arm mimics the way a record is actually cut on the
original lacquer. I believe also eliminates anti skating issues. I have
not noticed it being either more or less sensitive to skipping.
Theoretically it should improve the way it sits in the groove, but that
is also related to the cartridge and stylus design,material and shape.
It works for me.

svandamme 06-25-2019 10:46 AM

cool, I may have to snap me one of them Technics linear ones , they got some nice looking ones and in any case this kind of gear is not going to loose value over time innit

CurtEgerer 06-25-2019 11:44 AM

No mention of Garrard :confused::confused:

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Scott Douglas 06-25-2019 02:38 PM

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How about a Miracord?

Scott Douglas 06-25-2019 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by svandamme (Post 10502962)
But with a record.. i have to do some effort..
put the old record away
find new one get it out of the sleeve..
throw it on the platter,
turn on amp
turn dial to loud
put the needle on the record

I'd put the needle on the record
THEN turn dial to loud

Easier on the speakers.;)

ramonesfreak 06-25-2019 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CurtEgerer (Post 10503123)
No mention of Garrard :confused::confused:

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A huge PIA to service. Friend of mine ownes a stereo/record shop and services vintage tables. He finally stopped taking in Gerard tables.

Don’t know about that specific table but generally speaking a pain

RWebb 06-25-2019 03:44 PM

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Dmitry at Pelican Parts 06-25-2019 04:12 PM

Some of the best ones I've heard recently are from Pear Audio and the new line of Rega Planar tables.

If anyone in the LA area is looking for a new turntable, repairs, or any and all hifi equipment, check out my buddy's store in Downtown LA - Common Wave Hi-Fi

cairns 06-25-2019 08:44 PM

No unseen bolts. A Clearaudio Ambient. Just need to properly space the motor unit from the turntable proper.

svandamme 06-25-2019 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RWebb (Post 10503359)

Rock Lobster!!

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pwd72s 06-26-2019 10:01 AM

Take those old records off the shelf...
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoaAb5MnKtY

Pazuzu 06-26-2019 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by afterburn 549 (Post 10504183)
I hope we can stay within the bounds of the outline here in this thread.

5 pages of people listing the most famous and most expensive turntables on the planet isn't good enough for you??

afterburn 549 06-26-2019 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pazuzu (Post 10504188)
5 pages of people listing the most famous and most expensive turntables on the planet isn't good enough for you??

Good enough is for - all grey area, no pass, no fail.
The running header is a- prepositional phrase -may be
This thread as others has a subject in mind to peruse and postulate.
To learn from others.
It is about what Turn table one LIKES or use.
Not about wishes so much and definitely not about your favorite music.
thanx

pwd72s 06-26-2019 11:05 AM

Okay, I'll stay on topic for you. My 1970's vintage Techniques SL7 quartz direct drive linear tracking with Ortofon cartridge still plays my old rock n' roll vinyl fine enough to satisfy my old ears.

pwd72s 06-29-2019 08:58 AM

U turn audio
 
Made in the USA, belt drive, in the affordable range, cartridge choices, looks cool...

Anybody here have one? Should my old Techniques act up, may give them a ring.

https://uturnaudio.com/pages/turntables

RWebb 06-29-2019 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by afterburn 549 (Post 10504201)
Good enough is for - all grey area, no pass, no fail.
The running header is a- prepositional phrase -may be
This thread as others has a subject in mind to peruse and postulate.
To learn from others.
It is about what Turn table one LIKES or use.
Not about wishes so much and definitely not about your favorite music.
thanx

pick a Rega or VPi in your price range - if not the best performance/$$ then they will be very close

if you play music loud, or have wood floors, then sand box it

a cover on while playing helps

high quality phono stage and everything else...

afterburn 549 06-29-2019 02:17 PM

Lots of good info here.
Next round we will investigate old jukeboxes.

sc_rufctr 08-31-2019 04:55 AM

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kghjr 08-31-2019 06:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by afterburn 549 (Post 10507649)
Lots of good info here.
Next round we will investigate old jukeboxes.

Did you get a turntable?

Of the four I have, Technics, B & O, Garrard, Akai, the main one lately, is the Akai from Costco that has built-in Bluetooth and can digitize to my laptop and then to the phone, hooked up to a Rotel phono amp, Yamaha amp and Klipsch speakers. For my old ears, just fine. I'm putting all favorite LP's on my phone so that I can listen to them in my car, the same exact thing I used to do with cassett tapes; get the music from vinyl to portable.

Rtrorkt 08-31-2019 07:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kghjr (Post 10577275)
Did you get a turntable?

Of the four I have, Technics, B & O, Gerard, Akai, the main one lately, is the Akai from Costco that has built-in Bluetooth and can digitize to my laptop and then to the phone, hooked up to a Rotel phono amp, Yamaha amp and Klipsch speakers. For my old ears, just fine. I'm putting all favorite LP's on my phone.

quick question, does the Akai compress the signal from the vinyl or allow the fullness of the record to get to your laptop?

Zeke 08-31-2019 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by afterburn 549 (Post 10507649)
Lots of good info here.
Next round we will investigate old jukeboxes.

I think Wurlitzer did build a solid unit. I have the first year of stereo which is also the last year of tube amps (dual). I've been through the whole thing and then ended up taking it to an expert. I couldn't even begin to describe the number of working parts. And all it takes is one fussy relay to jamb up the works.

AFA turntables go, jukeboxes have the worst design when the record is playing vertically.

afterburn 549 08-31-2019 08:38 AM

Not all play vertically

kghjr 08-31-2019 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rtrorkt (Post 10577323)
quick question, does the Akai compress the signal from the vinyl or allow the fullness of the record to get to your laptop?

Good question but over my pay grade. I'm guessing compressing.

I compared sound from a CD and iPod through the Yamaha/Klipsch system or the iPhone through a variety of Bluetooth speakers and I cannot discern significant loss of sound, but then my hearing is 70 and damaged from a misspent youth of high volume music listening.

I spent a year visiting one friend regularily who had an apartment over a hardware store in a commercial area with a 30 x 30 living room, two walls of speakers, each wall with it's own amp, TT's each with it's own amp, tuner with it's own amp, amps and speakers everywhere. We did some damage.

Here's the specs on the one I bought but it is not carried by Costco anymore.

https://www.akaipro.com/bt500

Zeke 08-31-2019 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by afterburn 549 (Post 10577403)
Not all play vertically

No siht??

afterburn 549 08-31-2019 02:09 PM

green ? or what?
just in case you don't know........I can't tell..

OK-944 08-31-2019 02:27 PM

What about the classic (and cheap) Gerrard changer? Proof that nostalgia can trump quality...especially given that these 64 year old ears likely would not notice any difference!

kghjr 09-01-2019 07:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OK-944 (Post 10577637)
What about the classic (and cheap) Gerrard changer? Proof that nostalgia can trump quality...especially given that these 64 year old ears likely would not notice any difference!

It's part of a Telefunken console bought in 1960 by dad. No way I'm putting my LP's on that medieval device.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1567351375.jpg

ramonesfreak 11-01-2019 07:56 PM

I was just making some adjustments to my cartridge and thought about this thread

Did you ever get a turntable?

cairns 11-02-2019 05:01 AM

I stumbled on this the other day...gorgeous turntables from Lithuania:

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speeder 11-02-2019 07:51 AM

That wood-wrapped Thorens on the bottom is nice looking to my taste. ^^^ I don't really go for the space age looking ones on this thread. I have a couple of old B&O Beograms on the shelf getting dusty, need to drag them out and find someone to service them someday. :cool:

cairns 11-02-2019 09:26 AM

Zeke that TD125 was my first "high end" turntable. I wish to heck I still had it. And the Revox B77 that went with it.

serene911 11-02-2019 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by speeder (Post 10644136)
That wood-wrapped Thorens on the bottom is nice looking to my taste. ^^^ I don't really go for the space age looking ones on this thread. I have a couple of old B&O Beograms on the shelf getting dusty, need to drag them out and find someone to service them someday. :cool:

Hey Denis, Dust off that Beogram and plug it in. Just may be fine. I have a Beogram
5500 in use. Works great! I have another 5500 new in box never been used that I need to pick up a cartridge for. Intend to use it as well someday.

schwarz633 11-02-2019 12:42 PM

I used to have one of these (Empire 698 Troubadour), back in the day. It had this wonky raise/lower device that would lift the arm at the end of the record. The round touch pads next to the power switch would raise/lower the arm as well. Never could get it adjusted to reliably lower the arm slowly. Still have the Marantz 2325 and the Bose 901's, haven't been powered up in years.

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R K T 11-02-2019 05:29 PM

I walked into this place last month and my mouth dropped. Owned by a couple of air-cooled vw and Porsche guys.

pitch perfect fine audio systems

beepbeep 11-03-2019 06:01 AM

EMT 930 (or if you have dough, EMT 950) are hard to beat when it comes to transcribing LP's to another carrier.

I would not use them to "listen" to LP's as they tend to wear out the LP's. But they are great when it comes to delivering 100% of "what is there".

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