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Fly Mach .86 11-01-2019 03:14 PM

The CFM-56 engines were done by Cammacorp I believe in Tulsa Oklahoma. They converted just over 100 airplanes. All the mods. and the new engines greatly improved the "eight". Unfortunately it also made it a beast to fly. Not the best handling airplane. I flew the 71's and 73's for 11 years.

john70t 11-04-2019 07:36 AM

(a little virtual aviation tangent in the OV-10)
Roads north of Nice/Menton southern france.
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daepp 11-07-2019 03:12 PM

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/small-plane-crashes-house-outside-los-angeles-n1078381

Until a year ago I lived along the landing path for this airport. To my knowledge this is the first Cirrus to crash. Would the chute deploy on impact, because this poor guy allegedly came in very fast/hard?

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daepp 11-07-2019 03:16 PM

Oops - NM. From further reading: “ What appeared to be a parachute was seen hanging from a palm tree near the crash site; that Cirrus SR22 has an onboard airframe parachute. Pingree said there were no eyewitness accounts of the parachute being deployed.”

edgemar 11-07-2019 04:56 PM

i bet it cooked off

rattlsnak 11-08-2019 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daepp (Post 10650007)

To my knowledge this is the first Cirrus to crash.

No way... There have been plenty.. Like a lot actually..

afterburn 549 11-08-2019 02:07 PM

Nerf cars of the air with more serious circumstances.

SpyderMike 11-08-2019 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rattlsnak (Post 10650995)
No way... There have been plenty.. Like a lot actually..

Here are the facts:

https://www.cirruspilots.org/copa/safety_programs/w/safety_pages/720.caps-saves-and-fatal-accidents.aspx?1

dlockhart 11-09-2019 05:04 PM

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pavegeno 11-11-2019 04:21 PM

6000' MSL above SE Alabama at sunset.

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Fly Mach .86 11-17-2019 11:41 AM

Interesting article. https://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/aerospace/2019-11-17/electric-airplane-new-air-racing-series-unveiled

john70t 11-17-2019 02:24 PM

I wonder if there will be a new type of hybrid jet engine introduced:
Electric or mostly so at slower speeds and then transitions into high bypass and slow recharging after reaching constant altitude.

Bob Kontak 11-17-2019 04:16 PM

Cousin is a Delta airline pilot. Regional Delta. He is out in a couple days as he's 65. Flew to Cle last night with his wife onboard and we had dinner.

He flew mainly C130's/C141's for the Air Force in the way back. I asked him if he had any close calls. He did and I am hoping for some clarity on this.

In Norway, 1980-ish, a string of C130's dumping paratroopers along with Norwegian aircraft doing same at 2000 feet. A show for King Olaf.

Plane in front had some kind of vortex off the wing tip that messed them up but I don't know terminology. Cousin was co-pilot. Pilot throttled back engines on one side and maxed the two on the other side fast. Their plane instantly nose dived and he said "There were windows, I could see the ground, I thought it was over" Pilot pulled out at 1,000 feet and swears he saved them all.

Cousin also talked about left side and right side wing tip vortex and what your supposed to do.

Help a layman understand.

t6dpilot 11-18-2019 12:32 PM

Wing tip vortices are dangerous horizontal "tornadoes" that emirate from the wingtips rearward. They are most pronounced when the aircraft is slow and "dirty" (full flaps). They can roll a following aircraft inverted quickly. Here is a tragic, but good video on them and an surprising producer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXlv16ETueU

Biz jets need to be careful of them at altitude when passing close to the cruise path of a heavy. Can wreak havoc on the smaller jet. Search for the Challenger Jet damage occurred after they hit the vortices from an Airbus A380 in the Middle East.

Here is another good video. Lots of them out there explaining this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfY5ZQDzC5s

daepp 11-18-2019 12:40 PM

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Bob Kontak 11-18-2019 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by t6dpilot (Post 10661622)
Here is another good video. Lots of them out there explaining this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfY5ZQDzC5s

Thanks. This vid is pretty impressive.

I suspect they would have been slow and dirty when dropping soldiers.

seafeye 11-19-2019 07:14 AM

Finally after 20 years of flying I bit the bullet and bought a set of BOSE A20’s with Bluetooth.
https://www.bose.com/en_us/products/headphones/aviation_headsets/a20-aviation-headset.html

Wow. Why didn’t I do it sooner? The David clamps gave me a headache. The telex didn’t keep any noise out. Now I get quiet and with a little Tom Petty in the background. Nice break now to go flying and leave all that noise back at the terminal.

GH85Carrera 11-19-2019 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seafeye (Post 10662482)
Finally after 20 years of flying I bit the bullet and bought a set of BOSE A20’s with Bluetooth.
https://www.bose.com/en_us/products/headphones/aviation_headsets/a20-aviation-headset.html

Wow. Why didn’t I do it sooner? The David clamps gave me a headache. The telex didn’t keep any noise out. Now I get quiet and with a little Tom Petty in the background. Nice break now to go flying and leave all that noise back at the terminal.

I have those headphones. They are great.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1574188666.jpg

Our 182 has Sirius radio for the color "radar" view and it also has music. Set the autopilot to the destination, and listen to music. The music stops if there is a ATC or other aircraft to listen to. In the middle of nowhere, not much talking going on.

More than once I forgot to punch the noise cancellation button for a few minutes. If sure makes a big difference when it is on.

flipper35 11-19-2019 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by t6dpilot (Post 10661622)
Wing tip vortices are dangerous horizontal "tornadoes" that emirate from the wingtips rearward. They are most pronounced when the aircraft is slow and "dirty" (full flaps). They can roll a following aircraft inverted quickly. Here is a tragic, but good video on them and an surprising producer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXlv16ETueU

Biz jets need to be careful of them at altitude when passing close to the cruise path of a heavy. Can wreak havoc on the smaller jet. Search for the Challenger Jet damage occurred after they hit the vortices from an Airbus A380 in the Middle East.

Here is another good video. Lots of them out there explaining this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfY5ZQDzC5s

https://www.flyingmag.com/increased-lateral-separation-urged-as-a380s-wake-flips-challenger-604/

According to Flight Service Bureau, the international flight-planning organization, the Challenger encountered severe wake turbulence at about noon local time on January 7 while cruising at FL340 as the A380 passed 1,000 feet above it and slightly off track. One to two minutes later, the business jet rolled uncontrollably at least three times, causing serious injuries to some of the nine people on board.

This is why I was nervous following a DC10 into Cedar Rapids when I was in a C152 on my fist solo cross country in the post pages ago. Land after, as in further down the runway, the larger aircraft. Be in the air at a point before the other aircraft took off, even with the time delay. They do not dissipate well.

rattlsnak 11-19-2019 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seafeye (Post 10662482)
Finally after 20 years of flying I bit the bullet and bought a set of BOSE A20’s with Bluetooth.
https://www.bose.com/en_us/products/headphones/aviation_headsets/a20-aviation-headset.html

Wow. Why didn’t I do it sooner? The David clamps gave me a headache. The telex didn’t keep any noise out. Now I get quiet and with a little Tom Petty in the background. Nice break now to go flying and leave all that noise back at the terminal.

Yep, they are awesome.. I even use them when I'm flying the big birds...


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