All Things Aviation Related
 

Hey everyone,
As many of you know, I have effectively been blowing up two different threads with miscellaneous picture, posts and discussion on aviation related items. Things that I have seen, encountered or done all related to aviation. At the recommendation of another member, I have created a new thread that will follow my exploits regarding my own experiences owning an relatively affordable 1967 Cessna 150G(since 2003), work that I have done (overseen by a licensed A&P), county rental hangar improvements and such.

We have enough members that have a vested interest in aviation that I am hoping that a collection of topics will get added so it could benefit members, like myself, all in hopes of making general aviation better.

So the only hard and fast rule is...."there are no rules". Someone can learn from something, so if you have a topic, question, pic, adventure, whatever it is, post it. Everyone like pictures too..... Topics that I will be asking about are numerous in nature so if you have experiences, good or bad, expertise knowledge, an opinion, please share.

So to kick things off, a little back ground.

After being a career student pilot back in the beginning in 1996, I began and intended to get my single engine land rating. Living in Corona at the time (due to work) I ended up at the Hemet Ryan Airobatic Flight Center where I completed all of my primary training in Citabria's, with a splash of L-19, T-6 and Stearman. Due to a transfer with the State, I t brought me back up to Sacramento where I then continued my tailwheel training at the Natomas Flying Club. Due to it closing, another student who had no business flying tailwheel aircraft ground looped the Decathlon (hot rod with a 160 HP fuel injected, inverted oil system and aileron spades), I had to find other means to complete my rating. It was totally my fault, but I just kinda lingered in the training phase without any real guidance or structure so that is why it took so long. Didn't help with life getting in the way on numerous occasions. In 2003 a local owner was selling a 150 and I figured it would be a good way to get things wrapped up. It was affordable and insurance was easy on the wallet as well. We still own the 150G and I find myself wanting something a bit more sporty.

A pic of the ElDorado County owned rental hangar that we now occupy...... and pay county property tax on. (Welcome to CA folks)

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I spent 9 years on a waiting list to get into this. That is why I kinda spruced it up from the dark hole it was.

Here are a couple of current topics I am addressing today.
1) With the advent of technology, tablet apps are a useful tool. Since I haven’t used any to determine which one is best, I have narrowed the field down to two. Foreflight and FlyQ EFB. With that, I am also needing to replace my Gen-1 iPad mini since all of these now require a more modern IOS and Apple is essentially phasing out older devises by no longer supporting the operating systems. I get it, it is just a shot in the arm on cost. There is also the cost of the app subscriptions too. The more bells and whistles, the more money you will spend.

So what are your experiences with the available aviation apps? Did you start out with one and switch to another, if so why and include any 20/20 hindsight. What tablet are you using it on and what are the reasons you chose it, functionality, ease, cost.

2)ADS-B "OUT"
If we elect to keep the plane, we will need to look at this option as well by the deadline of 1-1-2020. At an airframe value of the 150 around 18-20K, it hard to justify the more expensive systems available. Looking at the Uavionics Tailbeacon currently for certified aircraft.

So there you have it. Thanks for reading and Cheers

Bugs

My Experiences with all Things Aviation Related
 

Some of my recent endeavors...
-Replaced vacuum pump, hoses and new fittings
-Airbox rebuilt and reworked
-Updated carburetor
-Overhauled nose strut (nightmare)
-A chit-ton of cosmetic paint work
-Nose pant repair, paint, followed by more repairs and paint due to a faulty magnetic oil tank warmer[emoji849]
-replaces the disintegrating OEM ABS wingtips with better performance ones
-overhauled fixed pitch propeller
-Tires n tubes
-brakes
-repacked the bearings but that kinda falls in with the wheel stuff
-oil
-annual
-hand polished the spinner and replaced both bulkheads too

There is more stuff I am sure I have forgotten. As mentioned before, I have been working closely with my A&P. All appropriate FAA paperwork completed and filed.
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Because I like to tinker and have aspirations of building my own fast mover, I have always been interested in getting my A&P.

The latest issue of AOPA Pilot has an interesting article on that topic. I just don’t know that I have that kinda time. Our local school is based at the McClellan Airpark and working shift work can be a challenge at best.

The nice part would that I could fly to an from so traffic shouldn’t be an issue.
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How much can you do before the A&P gets involved?

Is he or she more of a Quality Assurance role?

I have never owned my own plane but buy gas for friends of mine that do. I only fly 30 hours or so a year now, CAVU to the Moon, $100 dollar hamburger stuff.

My business partner has a Lancair but it is really cramped (sitting height) and I don't enjoy it at all...amazing aircraft but it is like me trying to get into a wet suit.

I am in the aviation business. We do aerial photography and mapping. We bought a Cessna 2004 182T Skylane. I am not yet a pilot, but my business partner is. It is an amazing piece of equipment but in some way primitive because any logical upgrade requires all sorts of paperwork, so it can't be changed.

The glass panel is really cool, but we had just one button on one panel quit working. That means replace the entire panel bigger than an iPad. And of course only a qualified instrument shop can do it.

This could turn into my favorite thread.

If you build in the experimental category you are your own A&P by default. Though being certified would be a plus.

Paul, is that one of the 2 seat Lancair models? I know they can be sporty, but they aren't very big. Maybe ideal for a Tom Cruise sized guy.

Bugs, what kind of sportiness are you looking for? Speed, aerobatics?

I did all my flight training in a C152. 5323M was my favorite of the fleet. That was 1987. Fun little planes if you and your passenger aren't very big.

I recently sold my certified airplane, and started building an RV-7.
As long as I can document satisfactorily that I built it, I can get a "Repairman's Certificate" for this airplane only.
Otherwise, the owner must have an A&P inspect it once a year.

My reason for going experimental- Had a great mechanic at my home airport who treated my airplane as his own baby. He left the airport, and scheduling other mechanics to do simple things I could easily, but not legally, do myself got pretty frustrating.

With an RV-7, I can go fast, go upside-down, still get in and out of short, remote runways while using far less fuel than the 550 cubic inch engine I was feeding. And I can perform all maintenance, repairs and upgrades myself.

What I recently sold:

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What I'm building:

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Though right now it's just a bunch of random-looking aluminum parts.

What you sold is what my friend is currently looking for.

I like the Van's stuff for putzing around in.

It is a two seater...great airplane, fast and fun to fly. I have about 20 hours in an A-4 and my shoulders touched the canopy rails. The Lance felt smaller.

This is what this thread is for!

I flew an RV-4 at the RV plant in Redmond when my Dad lived in Bend, early 2000's. I fit fine. The 4 is everything I want in a private plane.

Fantastic, Dantilla...I helped build a Harmon Rocket a number of years ago that is still tearing up the skies.

A guy at our church has an RV-6. He is repainting it right now.

For sight seeing around the area a Pacer or Tri-Pacer would be fine with me. 5gph and a little bit of room as you can't fit 3 in a J3 or Champ.

All I have flown were Cessna or Piper aircraft. For long hauls the Cherokee 6 is a good SUV of an airplane.

A friend of dad's has a Legacy. Said about 275kts cruise in it. Don't know if it is stock. He has a car being built for the mile race in TX. Said it is around 3000hp.

There is a lot of fun stuff out there these days, though some of hte certified stuff is really expensive.

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As an owner and if I understand the FAR's, I can legally do oil, brakes, fluids, tires n tubes, repack wheel bearings, filter, plugs. I am required to document it in the appropriate logs. I am sure I have either missed something but that sums most of it up on the certified stuff. Any additional items, I discuss and plan with the A&P on what needs to be done under his tutelage. I have always been in the mechanically minded and like working on stuff. It my bacon up there so I take the time to research and do things right taking copious notes. Once completed, I then show, explain and present any documentation to my A&P. In all, it’s all very basic stuff that is non-structural or power plant related. I will always defer that to the subject matter experts. So you can say it a quality assurance thing too. Once the job is completed and inspected, he then endorses the appropriate log book.

Although, that little nugget bit me in the arse earlier with just a simple Cessna nose strut that I dropped off at a licensed FAA repair facility rather than tackle it with my A&P since he was out of the state on another job. I don’t trust our local in field FAA repair station simply due to the fact they have done some questionable things to some our older pilots an owners regarding aircraft repairs.

In my case, after I dropped off the strut, I get what no owner wants to hear. “Just the person I need to talk to”. I “guess” when they(probably the high school ROP student- but no proof so it’s just speculation) was tasked with the struts breakdown. When the metering pin was removed, the small press nut was removed. Now I am unsure because I’ve yet to get a straight answer on “how” it was removed, via wrench, socket or air tool. Anyway, all of the threads were damaged.
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This is where aircraft ownership becomes ridiculous. That particular metering pin for our 150, carried a price tag of $3850.00 from Cessna. Now I have no way of knowing how that bolt was removed and if it was locked on it was, I just know that if I encountered a frozen bolt, I would have taken steps to try to remove without destroying the part. Saying that, I fully understand that my result may have been the same. Anyway, all I could do is move forward. Luckily, I have an aircraft salvage yard down in Sacramento that I was able to find one very close to the one in our nose strut. There were some differences but very minor. The shop wanted me to have the replacement pin machined down to match exactly match. Luckily, we have a machine/milling shop that does some very high tech stuff that I was able to have done as a “side job”. Even better, they like odd jobs like this and even have a retired A&P who comes in once in a while take on this job.

The repair shop rejected the first go by saying a collar was .0030 too tall and needed machining. So I lost another two weeks in getting the metering pin machined again.

Once the metering pin was accepted, I provided them with the FAA/PMA seal kit and they reassembled the unit. Reinstalling the nose strut was a very simple job, especially with my A&P overseeing it. A simple roll pin on the tip mounting collar and a through bolt in the lower to lock it in. Everything else is bolted back in place, torque specks checked and cotter pins installed.

I guess it comes down to me doing the grunt labor, learning something and the A&P’s supervised time.

Cheers

We just finished getting our 182 out of annual. Dang that was painful for just the labor to inspect every moving part. At one point the mechanic threw a big problem at us. There is a mandatory AD for the seat recliner mechanism. At first we were told it was $2,900 per seat! Then he found that is was "only" $2,900 for both. Still not good. Finally they actually looked at the seats, and the update has been done. They looked again in the log books and a sticker had been misplaced. So all was well.

Great thread idea! I’ll go next: I’m an aircraft owner lucky enough to have a late model 185. I’ve owned a Champ, 182, Maule will keep the 185 until I quit.

I hold an A&P, with IA and make a living as a FAA DAR (FSDO and MIDO) as well as a DAI for Bermuda and San Marino. The bulk of my work is transport aircraft, being a general aviation guy at heart keeps me from any authorization restrictions so I’ll work anything -rotorcraft, GA, business aircraft, etc

I started just after high school and look to retire at 65 in four years. Boats are easier to maintain at this point. I’ll send better some pics later. Keep the thread going!http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1563398821.jpghttp://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1563399018.jpg

Dude, I so hate you now! :)

I really like those.

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Looking to buy a plane soon...

Learning that if you go experimental, you likely void your life insurance, umbrella, and liability... none cover experimental aircraft...

I have a feeling this thread will be an ongoing delight!

Count me in as a fan boy. I've been going to air show like events in recent years. More on the tarmac shows than flying air shows.

I love walking around checking out all the cool planes and meeting their owners to get the stories. They are very patient with guys like me with no real background in aviation, willing to point out interesting aspects of their planes.

I also enjoy aviation museums. I'm not far from Pensacola and plan to get over there again soon. Got the chance to visit the Airforce museum in Ohio a couple of years ago too.

I aLso really enjoyed the early aviation collection at WAAAM. In Hood River, where I met a friend for a carshow there A couple of years ago. Amazing collection of early concept designs.

It would be great if you that are sharing your neat planes here please include enough info for us know nothings to be able to google them for more details.

And thanks for sharing.

Cheers Richard

I would love to build and fly a plane someday but I guess rebuilding the only known surviving SBD-1 will have to do for now. I volunteer at the Flying Leatherneck museum and have plenty of projects going on.http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1563408583.JPG
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I posted this earlier in another thread “Admitting my stupidity”. Since it entails more of my aviation exploits, I am trying to relocate it to this thread. I figured someone would enjoy my suffering. Unfortunately it does rehash a point I made in an earlier reply.

Cheers

[QUOTE=bugstrider;10445354]Cleaned and painted my oleo strut on the ol C-150 heavy. In manipulating the strut and removing the cross through bolt, allowed a crispy, crunchy ancient O-ring to shift. Thus causing it to leak hydraulic fluid hours after a nice paint job.

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Update! And more entertainment.

So I checked in with the shop that is resealing my front strut with a FAA/PMA kit that I provided. Now I fully understand that I am not a certified airplane mechanic. Everthing I am doing is under the direct supervision of an A&P mechanic. Nothing is structural and all are little no nothing jobs.

The nose strut is the first item to see the inside of a FAA repair station in years because I wanted to leave that job to the “subject matter experts” and my A&P is out of the state on a job for another month. I was suppose to pick up the strut last week but due to schedules, yesterday was the first chance I had to stop by before work. Logistically, its easier to utilize a shop by my office since I am there more on a daily basis. I also “DO NOT” trust the on field shop by my county rental hangar/home field due to shenanigans they have pulled with some of our older/veteran owners. Shops or people that do those types of things takes me to a very dark place where not very nice things begin to run through my head. I just become protective of our older generation. Anyway, back to the story.

I walk into the shop and I am greeted by “just the guy I needed to talk to”. Now, in the aviation world, that is like getting a message on your answering machine from your doctor saying “please call the office”. It’s never positive and usually leads to some form of bad news.

He proceeds to tell me that the threads stripped off of the “guide pin” which goes through the base plate of the strut.
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In looking at the wee little nut, I am not sure how that was possible other than his high school ROP student assistant hit this thing with an air tool. I understand that there is now no physical way to determine the cause, age, corrosion, don’t force it just get a big ass tool and make it submit, who knows?!?
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All I do know, is that the Cessna aircraft company wants $3,800.00 for this stupid thing. For an airplane that is valued between 18-20K, this is where owning one becomes a P.I.T.A. and borders on stupidity. And here I thought I thought Porsche’s were pricy to maintain. I guess where this makes me frustrated is that if a bolt is frozen, then take steps to carefully remove it without destroying an insanely expensive part. I know time is money but my god, common sense people. This is exactly why I like overseeing these types of things. It’s also another reason for me to go back to school at the local A&P school 50 miles away.

All of this was caused by me trying to cosmetically enhance the plane. Will I ever learn?

Luckily, I just found a viable replacement at our local aviation wrecking yard. Yup, we have one here is Sacramento. It’s the same yard the Mythbuster team got all of their aviation items for all the aviation myths. Chicken gun, spiral cut wing, etc.

Anyway, for the most part, it’s identical with the exception that it’s about 1/4” longer. Although, in taking a closer look, it seems that my original might have been machined sometime in its past. It’s all about the journey, right?

Original on the left, replacement in the right.
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Another exploit......

Found a nice set of Horton fiberglass wingtips for the 150. They needed some cosmetic repair, some paint and good to go. The past few days I’ve been multitasking working on a few different items. I made the repairs and then wanted to test fit them before going into work tonight. I finish up some wet dry sanding and they are looking really nice. Just need to run them up to the airport, fit, prime and let them dry while away. Since I get home around 4:00AM, I wake up this morning and my phone immediately explodes from major work related drama regarding the unit schedule which I’m charged with. So, mentally distracted from work crap and ready to explode, I get in the car and off I go.........

“CRUNCH!” I run both of them over. White car, white wing tips partially blocking the driveway just below the hood line. I had thought I put them in the car. So much for the forward sensors.[emoji35]

“ARE YOU PHUCING KIDDING ME?!?!?” I honestly want to kill something. Not much to do now but try to see if there is a possible repair.

Just before the vehicular tip-slaughter on the wing tips
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After my cock-up. Fiberglass survived by flexing but the gel coat, not so much.
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Scene of the crime
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Today’s lesson: “mental distractions are real”

Seeing how extensive my royal cock-up goes
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Getting some pointers from a buddy who is a composite owner/builder

Continued story from above^^^^
Damage control currently in effect.

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Reinforcing the insides then will tackle the exterior. So far it’s looking hopeful. Will further strengthen the nav light mounting points with a riv nut-plate. The exterior will take a bit of work with resin and shedded glass to get the paste constancy I need. Sanding and more sanding followed with Polly Fill with a sanding chaser. Will set up while I’m at work tonight.

Wasted time on repairs due to me failing to just take a deep breath and looking twice before driving away.

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Part-III of the wingtip saga

Redeemed my earlier stupidity of running over my new/used wingtips.

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This is the problem with working shift work. Even on a day off, I am flipping wide awake at 0230 hrs.[emoji849]

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You are an aviation GOD!!!! That would be so awesome to see, let alone being part of its restoration. I think your project trumps any satisfaction building a homebuilt could bring. Does your trusty sidekick "Spot"? still go to work with you?

The wife recently picked up a new read for me. I will be honest, I was surprised about how much I didn’t know regarding the attack on Pearl Harbor and our Navy’s military aircraft involvement and just how many SBD planes and crews were lost to our own friendly fire. I recommend it if you like military history.

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PS: Awesome pic of your little aviator with her tigger. I possibly might have luck with my oldest granddaughter since her daddy (our oldest son) is introducing her to all things motorized.
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Another fantastic true story about aviation. Two brothers and their relationships with each other and their father. Grabbed my attention from cover to cover and read it in record time. A very unusual feet for me, since I am the type to have two or three different books going at once. Must be the ADHD, lol

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As far as what I am looking for, both sides of my ID are fighting. With our son’s family and all of the wife’s family in Pheonix, a solid workhorse is the logical choice. Guys at the airport say a 210 or a Bonanza. The feeding of that big motor scares me at the burn rates they can do. Not to mention the cost of the annual. I get off easy with the 150 and the owner assisted annual.

The selfish side of my ID has always been partial to the RV’s and my dad’s cousin (whatever that makes him to me) is very well known in the RV community and holds a few speed records in his RV-4. I have personally been through the VAN’s factory twice and each time my left butt cheek is numb from my wallet vibrating at such a high frequency. I also keep hearing......” doooooo it, justttttt doooooo it” regarding a tail kit. The last time, I purchased a preview set of plans for the RV-8, tailwheel of course. I have always thought the RV-4 is a sexy plane but like the extra space of the RV-8. I keep telling the wife that I have one too many seats in the 150 since she never flys with me, so an RV-3 is even an idea.......not. She shot that idea down like turd in a lead balloon.

My buddy is working with me in getting checked out in his Longez and that has spiked my interest. At altitude, he is seeing nearly 200mph at 6-7 gph. He also is planning a round the world flight and with his fuel bladder in the rear seat, has a range north of 4000 NM. I like the look of the longez but your also limited to improved surfaces only. Another friend here locally had a RV-6 but sold it to begin his work on a two place carbon Lancair. This thing has to be the most beautiful Lanc I have every seen. They spend their time between CA and TX and cover the ground in record time. With the monster IO-540, they see insane speeds. He did tell me the last time we spoke, those planes are very hard to insur almost to the point of being impossible to insur if you find one secondhand.

So a very long answer to a short question, is that I honestly do not know. What I would like and what I can afford are two totally different realities I am afraid. I would honestly say that I am leaning towards the experimental category, something that can go fast.[emoji6]

BTW, your project looks sweet!!!

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One more random aviation pic and I am calling it a night.

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A signed plate of a local WWII ACE, Ret. Col Bud Anderson. His sortie was the pilot show in the History Channel’s Dogfights years back.

Nite-O fellas

Later, I will post some pics of a chunk of runway my brother scored me from Beale AFB

I got my ppl, and plane 7 years ago. I was 55 at the time and retired, so I finally had the time.

Here is a pic of the plane, it’s a 1960 Beechcraft Debonair. I bought it sight unseen, I had it delivered as I didn’t have my license at the time.http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1563446824.jpg

I recently added static cling tint to the rear windows, hopefully it will make it a little more comfortable for the rear seat passengers. My wife and her friend recently complained about being hot back there.http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1563446988.jpg

Here is a panel pic, I have used foreflight since I started, I also have a stratus that is invaluable for long cross country trips for the weather. I recently added the garmin 660.http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1563447146.jpg

I am also planning on going with the tailbeacon for adsb. If it doesn’t get approved soon I may just go with the garmin unit that installs between the transponder and antena.

I’m also planning on updating my avionics soon, but damn that’s expensive for something that doesn’t make the plane any faster.

Dayton has a great museum and airshow along with static displays.

The Cherokee 6 is a good SUV of an airplane. Malibu if you want to fly high.

Richard Collins had some good articles on Airfactsjournal.com on the 210.

OK all you pilots, this article has been bothering me. Should you need a gimbal for your cupholder if your turn is coordinated, regardless of the amount of bank?

Then, I attempted to weld a washer onto the screw. It wasn’t pretty. The screw heated up, instantly melting the plastic arm it protruded from. I wrapped the plastic in a wet towel and finished the welding. It held. Now the washer slots perfectly into the armrest. I can have a cup of coffee in the airplane and not have it spill as I bank. (Standard rate only—no steep turns.) Moving on from Musk, the satisfaction this gave me was on the order of what I imagine Pasteur and Einstein felt when they had their penicillin/relativity moments, respectively.

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Hahahahahahhah
Yes that is weird, I will look into it. Does anyone else using the Tapatalk app have this problem????? Thanks for letting me know about that, in all seriousness I can’t fix it if I don’t know it’s broke. I can see that extended spacing would be annoying as chit. I will get into the computer and recheck spacing and attempt to correct it. Sorry about that guys!! Do you see that on some, most or all of my posts? I primarily use the iPhone app so it all looks normal in my end. Another issue I see with the iPhone app in general is that I can not effectively embed a YouTube video.

update:I just logged on via a computer and I have honestly do not know what the heck is up with the forum app and the insane spacing. I have gone through and corrected what I am seeing. I also noted that the picture quality I am posting also sucks.

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That is a very nice looking plane!!! I watched a video on youtube about an owner of a V-Tail(which I also like) that upgraded his panel to all glass. He stated that the weight savings was 60 pounds due to the gauges and all the wire that was pulled out. I think that you would see a couple knots out of that as well as a slight change in you CG. I too am waiting on the TB ADS-B and also the same Garmin. That’s kinda good to see others are in the same line. I see you are sporting both the mini and full size iPads. If you only had one, who size would you choose?

Hahahahaha, good point. I guess if Mr Bob Hoover can roll a Commander while pouring water into a cup on the panel, then the short answer would be “No”.[emoji23]
This guy tried it in several different aspects
https://youtu.be/H4BpzIY62xE


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Thanks! The C-6 was my actual first log book entry after a ground school instructor took me up for a flight back in the day while taking ground school at the Riverside Community College. I recently ran into him up at Wings in Auburn and learned that he retired and moved to Nevada. It was great seeing him again and getting updated on all the guys I used to know through the San Bernardino Civil Air Patrol.


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Heading up to Oshkosh Airventure tomorrow.... will stay until Weds or Thurs. We are not flying in this year... Wife likes staying in the camper too much. ;) Will be parked in camp Scholler behind (to the north of) camper registration just west of Stitts road.

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our Vet and her hubby have their 210 in a hangar across and down from our rental. They use theirs like an SUV and go everywhere. The husband(Ney) wrote a book about destinations and planes. They load it with kids, hiking, rock climbing gear, kayaks, literally everything. His last annual ran close to 11K.[emoji51][emoji51][emoji51][emoji51][emoji51][emoji51]
This cowboy just doesn’t have those type of resources. God bless those that do.

Here is the book he wrote and published. I recommend it if you like doing this type of stuff. He was just telling me about a solo run he made to Alaska and backpacked through, solo in grizzly territory. The are true outdoorsman folks and are some of the most humble and kind people that I know. Our Vet who is a tiny thing has the build of a rock climber and has tackled the insane stuff. Such as the ledges that require you to hang in with just the finger tips.
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This quote is “So” true of these two
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Awesome!!!
Keep us posted on your adventure. We have yet to make it. We planned on attending the 100th anniversary a few years ago but unforeseen vehicle repairs killed out trip funds. We had a room reserved at a local community college dorm and everything. I still hate “Satan's Vehicle” to this day..... even though it’s long gone. 1994 Jeep Grand Cherokee, hate, hate, hate, hate!!!!!!! We can even go as far as saying that it tried to kill us one evening. We pulled into the Costco gas station and as we stopped in front of the pump, the pulley tensioner decided to seize and snapped off falling into all of the moving parts. I saw a sea of sparks erupt from under the hood, out the hood gaps, grill and from under the engine. For a split second I envisioned the entire gas station and all the patrons going up in a "Die Hard movie explosion". We got rid of it shortly after that.


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