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Geronimo 07-19-2019 06:32 PM

Tervuren!!!! YES you get it you love CARS! not just ONE brand of car.... petrolhead vs porscheafile

ramonesfreak 07-19-2019 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drcoastline (Post 10530232)
For $60K? I'll take two please.

It was a joke. I know it’s a $2 mil car.

ian c2 07-19-2019 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tervuren (Post 10530287)
I liked the C7's interior, I drove one.

it just felt like I was sitting surrounded by too much tech.

I ended up going back in time and buying a C5.

Commonality does not concern me.

When I see another Porsche 944 when I'm in my 944, I get excited.

When I'm in my 'Vette, and see another 'Vette, I get excited.

When I'm in my Jaaaag, and see another Jaaaag, I get excited.

When I'm in a Toyota Camry rental car, and see some other Toyota Camry...I get excited.

I notice whatever I'm driving if I see another, be it rare or common.

Not seeing another of what I'm driving over sustained time can cause a bit of disappointment.

I find whatever I’m driving I see more of them on the road ...

On Sunday I’m renting a Uhaul to take a 964 to autos international for new upholstery .
I’ll no doubt see a lot of Uhaul’s but no 964s . :D

ian c2 07-19-2019 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ramonesfreak (Post 10530341)
It was a joke. I know it’s a $2 mil car.

An original maybe , but A coach built vette isn’t ...

I love it .
Been waiting for pics to arrive ever since I heard the next gen was gonna be a middy a few years ago .

I’m from England so have allways been intrigued by the wacky-races cars you don’t see everyday growing up .
Bang for buck they allways seemed great .
If you could afford the bill at an English petrol station :rolleyes:

As it is right now , for a pure bang for buck comparison go to porsche.com and spec your middy .....................

cabmandone 07-19-2019 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tervuren (Post 10530287)
I liked the C7's interior, I drove one.

it just felt like I was sitting surrounded by too much tech.

I ended up going back in time and buying a C5.

Commonality does not concern me.

When I see another Porsche 944 when I'm in my 944, I get excited.

When I'm in my 'Vette, and see another 'Vette, I get excited.

When I'm in my Jaaaag, and see another Jaaaag, I get excited.

When I'm in a Toyota Camry rental car, and see some other Toyota Camry...I get excited.

I notice whatever I'm driving if I see another, be it rare or common.

Not seeing another of what I'm driving over sustained time can cause a bit of disappointment.

I'm thinking you are too easily excited! :D

cabmandone 07-19-2019 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ian c2 (Post 10530346)
An original maybe , but A coach built vette isn’t ...

I love it .
Been waiting for pics to arrive ever since I heard the next gen was gonna be a middy a few years ago .

I’m from England so have allways been intrigued by the wacky-races cars you don’t see everyday growing up .
Bang for buck they allways seemed great .
If you could afford the bill at an English petrol station :rolleyes:

As it is right now , for a pure bang for buck comparison go to porsche.com and spec your middy .....................

I saw in one of the articles I read that they already have plans for a RHD for across the pond.

ian c2 07-19-2019 07:48 PM

Yeah I read that .
No doubt by the time the nanny state has “regulated” it , it’ll be more chevette than corvette .


You might have to google that one ... :D

legion 07-19-2019 07:49 PM

If/when I can pick one up used for $20k, I'm getting one.

ian c2 07-19-2019 07:56 PM

There’s a guy at work selling a late 70s vette , has been for the last 4-5 years so I heard .
Wants 4-5k for it .

The problem is , he wears his shirts unbuttoned to the waist and gold necklaces and rings .
I’m not sure I could pull off the complete look as I’m only 50 .

HardDrive 07-19-2019 08:18 PM

Looks absolutely amazing.

eastbay 07-19-2019 09:38 PM

There is going to be a brisk business selling aftermarket front and rear bumper covers

fintstone 07-19-2019 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by aschen (Post 10530169)
if I was made king of the cars I would make it at 85% scale, otherwise at this price point I find not much to fault

This....or even smaller. Car is too dared big for a mid-engine sports car.

drcoastline 07-20-2019 03:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ramonesfreak (Post 10530341)
It was a joke. I know it’s a $2 mil car.

It was a joke back. :D

KFC911 07-20-2019 04:13 AM

I'm fixin' to head up to Lowes...bet I see a few POS white F150s...I'm giddy with anticipation...

Then I get to set fence posts....YIPPEE :)!

astrochex 07-20-2019 04:17 AM

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Originally Posted by cabmando (Post 10530212)
My son and I both noted those two models. I don't recall which exotic he thought it resembled but it wasn't Ferrari.




That's part of the conversation my brother and I were just having about it. I said it will never reach the iconic level of the 80's 911 simply because there will be more of them out there. It'll become sort of "ho hum"

Source of my thinking, profile is very Ferrari.
https://st.motortrend.com/uploads/si...de-by-side.jpg

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/4eleI0DFQrU/maxresdefault.jpg

javadog 07-20-2019 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by astrochex (Post 10530528)
Source of my thinking, profile is very Ferrari.
https://st.motortrend.com/uploads/si...de-by-side.jpg

See how the Ferrari is the much better design, with far fewer styling features?

GM has screwed up the last two Corvettes by littering the designs with an absurd number of extraneous lines and details. There are so many poorly thought-out details on the rear of the car, it makes you wonder how they could make such an error. Surely, someone on their design staff went to design school.

KFC911 07-20-2019 04:39 AM

^^^ KISS lost out to Kiss my azz :(

Tervuren 07-20-2019 04:53 AM

Just not seeing the Ferrari/Corvette comparison in that photo.

It shows obvious profile differences in a side by side like that.

Nose area, door area, windshield area, side window area, rear quarter window area, back window area, rear bumper, side door area.

Ryan_Cunningham 07-20-2019 05:01 AM

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012...36_634x363.jpg

Some may think “mid-life crisis older white man” when they hear the word Corvette. The word evokes images like the above to me.

This car has so many aspects that remind me of a fighter. I love it. I’ll keep my project RSR Outlaw for individuality, but I almost can’t afford to not get one of these, even if there are a few others around town.

javadog 07-20-2019 05:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tervuren (Post 10530547)
Just not seeing the Ferrari/Corvette comparison in that photo.

It shows obvious profile differences in a side by side like that.

Nose area, door area, windshield area, side window area, rear quarter window area, back window area, rear bumper, side door area.



You don’t have a very good eye. First, let’s assume that you understand that one of those red cars is not a Corvette.

After that, take a look at the blue car and the Ferrari. They have the same basic shape and proportion’s, even some of the features like the lower side window line is eerily similar. There are differences in the details, that’s what I’ve been complaining about. GM adds a great deal of unnecessary complexity and none of it makes the basic design better. Some of it is a nod to usability, like the increased ramp angle in the front, but most of it’s just unnecessary, fake complexity for it’s own sake.

For example, why does the Corvette have the two huge side air intakes?

ramonesfreak 07-20-2019 05:14 AM

I totally agree with you. It looks like someone said make it look like a Ferrari but not too much like a Ferrari and whoever was in charge of executing that directive just added a ton of stupid lines and bling including unfortunately making that air scoop trim on the side black so as to differentiate it a little.

It’s like a musician steeling a melody from someone else but adding an extra chord change or two to try to make it their own.

In this case, I would actually respect the corvette more if they just went ahead and totally ripped off Ferrari (I would love a new $60k Ferrari 😜 )

As for the interior, I’m starting to think I could grow to like it

I known $60k is a good price for a car like this but $60k is still a lot of money and for that, I want to love how it looks every time from every angle.

No car is perfect today. Even the 992 has some design issues to my eyes, though better than any 911 in the past 29 years in my opinion.




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Originally Posted by javadog (Post 10530552)
You don’t have a very good eye. First, let’s assume that you understand that one of those red cars is not a Corvette.

After that, take a look at the blue car and the Ferrari. They have the same basic shape and proportion’s, even some of the features like the lower side window line is eerily similar. There are differences in the details, that’s what I’ve been complaining about. GM adds a great deal of unnecessary complexity and none of it makes the basic design better. Some of it is a nod to usability, like the increased ramp angle in the front, but most of it’s just unnecessary, fake complexity for it’s own sake.

For example, why does the Corvette have the two huge side air intakes?


Tervuren 07-20-2019 05:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by javadog (Post 10530552)
You don’t have a very good eye. First, let’s assume that you understand that one of those red cars is not a Corvette.

After that, take a look at the blue car and the Ferrari. They have the same basic shape and proportion’s, even some of the features like the lower side window line is eerily similar. There are differences in the details, that’s what I’ve been complaining about. GM adds a great deal of unnecessary complexity and none of it makes the basic design better. Some of it is a nod to usability, like the increased ramp angle in the front, but most of it’s just unnecessary, fake complexity for it’s own sake.

For example, why does the Corvette have the two huge side air intakes?

Allright, I'm not familiar with the new Corvette.

There seem to be Acura badges on the wheels, making it a NSX.

Another car I am not very familiar with.

I'm not a fan of pre-production photo's anyway.

I know I love the Lexus LC500, and I know what most here in the forum think of that.

ramonesfreak 07-20-2019 05:21 AM

I have never seen a more blatant attempt by one maker to look like another maker....with the exception of what Hyundai does and well, I try not to look at those

It’s like they traced the outline of the Ferrari

At least corvette based the design on a nice Ferrari design it’s just too bad they went too far

You could see the Ferrari influence in the C7 as well from the side and I liked that until you walk around to the ugly rear and go oh my god what happens here


Quote:

Originally Posted by Tervuren (Post 10530547)
Just not seeing the Ferrari/Corvette comparison in that photo.

It shows obvious profile differences in a side by side like that.

Nose area, door area, windshield area, side window area, rear quarter window area, back window area, rear bumper, side door area.


ramonesfreak 07-20-2019 05:27 AM

I’ll give corvette this, they have taken a big step in the right direction and hopefully in 25 years when I’m ready for one (I’ll be 72) they will have the design right 🤪

HobieMarty 07-20-2019 05:32 AM

Goodbye Corvette, Rest In Peace.


I’d rather have a 1970 big block Stingray with T-tops, pop out rear window, factory side exhaust, manual transmission, ROUND tail lights, and ROUND steering wheel than that cobbled together piece of crap. If you’re gonna make a mid engined car, at least make the engine something worth looking at, it is under glass for all to see ya know. I guess GM didn’t learn anything from the Fiero.


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javadog 07-20-2019 05:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HobieMarty (Post 10530576)
Goodbye Corvette, Rest In Peace.


I’d rather have a 1970 big block Stingray with T-tops, pop out rear window, factory side exhaust, manual transmission, ROUND tail lights, and ROUND steering wheel than that cobbled together piece of crap. If you’re gonna make a mid engined car, at least make the engine something worth looking at, it is under glass for all to see ya know. I guess GM didn’t learn anything from the Fiero.


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I’ve actually thought about buying a 70’s Corvette, throwing away the drivetrain and putting some obnoxious crate motor and a modern five speed in it.

ErVikingo 07-20-2019 05:38 AM

I applaud them for the effort. However, I think it should have been a different car altogether, a Halo car "Stingray"and would have left the Corvette to continue. the opportunity to go upmarket and make it exclusive.

The styling looks like they took all the good from the new NSX, the Ferraris, added a bit of the other supercars put it all in a blender and puked it out. Then tagged on a Camaro back on it and bingo, we have the car.

It has some nice angles and some angles that are hideous (IMHO). The dual trunks is a very cool feature missed on the aforementioned vehicles.

The interior finally starts to look different from that on my Chevy truck!

On the positive side, its relatively cheap (starting as I'm sure by the time you opt for the performance packages you will be > $100K) and it provides plenty for the "tuners" to come up with new nose and tail treatment to make it a good looking car.

Then the next problem will be there will be one on each corner with only the connoisseurs being able to tell the highly optioned one from the base model ((like the 911s of late).

The important question, would I buy one? Don't think so, would I like to test one, Yes Please! The only way I would get one would be after securing a body kit for it.

ZA Duntov must be smiling somewhere knowing that they finally went mid Engine.

Ryan_Cunningham 07-20-2019 05:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by javadog (Post 10530552)
For example, why does the Corvette have the two huge side air intakes?

Cues from a modern, twin engine fighter aircraft. And it probably helps with cooling a little, don’t you think?

javadog 07-20-2019 05:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryan_Cunningham (Post 10530584)
Cues from a modern, twin engine fighter aircraft. And it probably helps with cooling a little, don’t you think?

Yes, I always want to drive around in a fighter jet with no wings.

Intakes that large on the sides only make sense if the radiators are side mounted, like the 1980s Ferrari testarossa. If that is the case, then they don’t need the intake grills at the front of the car.

GM is famous for doing stupid things like that. Compare the front end of the Corvette and the Ferrari. You’ll notice the Corvette has a greater ramp angle at the bottom, to aid in practicality. We wouldn’t want to scrape the front getting into a driveway, or going over a speedbump. But wait! They also include a feature where you can push a button and raise the front end for more clearance. So that design feature really isn’t needed, GM just threw it in because they like to **** up the design. It has no functional purpose.

masraum 07-20-2019 06:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ramonesfreak (Post 10530146)
Let’s say I win mega millions tonight and can buy anything I want so long as it’s modern:

I’ll say first - I don’t love anything new out there. If forced to, I would probably try to locate a Ford GT. A black one like Leno’s

I would also order a 992 with manual and all available options

Maybe a Koenigsegg One

Ferrari has lost me unfortunately. Their modern interiors are no better looking than this Vette though likely feel much better. New lambos interiors are awful looking while their exteriors are growing on me the more I see on the road and they continue to sound amazing

The problem with corvettes for me is there’s always something about them I hate, usually it’s the rear end or interior

I’ll admit they are fun. My dad has had a few and I’ve driven them. I like being behind the wheel of them...there’s something there I can’t describe. Maybe it’s the small cabin with the long wide hood not sure

Koenigsegg anything or Porsche GT_, depending upon the actual jackpot. If the CGT is considered modern, I might even go for one of those even though it's not the fastest or coolest out there today.

masraum 07-20-2019 06:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ian c2 (Post 10530346)
Bang for buck they allways seemed great .
If you could afford the bill at an English petrol station :rolleyes:

As it is right now , for a pure bang for buck comparison go to porsche.com and spec your middy .....................

You'd be surprised, I've got an '08 Boxster S. I think you'd have to work pretty hard for me to get 26 mpg on the highway in it, most of the time, it's more like 23.5 mpg. I had a coworker that had a corvette a few years ago, and because of the huge low end torque and transmission that would put him at super low rpm on the highway, he was getting over 30 mpg on the highway.

masraum 07-20-2019 06:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ian c2 (Post 10530369)
There’s a guy at work selling a late 70s vette , has been for the last 4-5 years so I heard .
Wants 4-5k for it .

The problem is , he wears his shirts unbuttoned to the waist and gold necklaces and rings .
I’m not sure I could pull off the complete look as I’m only 50 .

Plus, those are the worst of the bunch and have less power than most modern, hot 4 cylinders from today.

I think the lowest powered corvette since the 1950s was the 1980 or 1981 California model with a 305. they came in at 180hp. I think the 350 ci cars all had at least 200hp.

Nickshu 07-20-2019 06:22 AM

I'm pretty excited to see how the C8R does at LeMans. The C7R guys have had to work really hard to keep up the past couple years, they have done well for what they are driving. C8R might be able to put them on the podium in their class in a couple years.

javadog 07-20-2019 06:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by masraum (Post 10530602)
I think the lowest powered corvette since the 1950s was the 1980 or 1981 California model with a 305. they came in at 180hp. I think the 350 ci cars all had at least 200hp.

Nope... quite a few of the late 1970s Corvettes were under 200hp. The low point was 1975, at 165. The late 70s L82 was quite frisky, by comparison.

masraum 07-20-2019 06:29 AM

This should make it easier

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1563629349.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1563629359.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1563629434.jpg

To me, they look about as much alike as most mid-engined sports cars. Pointy in the front, not in the back, rear wheels set way back, low front end, etc.... I think that's mostly driven by packaging, aero and what's in style.

Fortunately, Porsche's mid engined cars look a little different.

Ryan_Cunningham 07-20-2019 06:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by javadog (Post 10530595)
Yes, I always want to drive around in a fighter jet with no wings.

Intakes that large on the sides only make sense if the radiators are side mounted, like the 1980s Ferrari testarossa. If that is the case, then they don’t need the intake grills at the front of the car.

GM is famous for doing stupid things like that. Compare the front end of the Corvette and the Ferrari. You’ll notice the Corvette has a greater ramp angle at the bottom, to aid in practicality. We wouldn’t want to scrape the front getting into a driveway, or going over a speedbump. But wait! They also include a feature where you can push a button and raise the front end for more clearance. So that design feature really isn’t needed, GM just threw it in because they like to **** up the design. It has no functional purpose.

I believe the car has six radiators, so I'm sure it's more form following function than vice versa. Also, I'm sure they "just threw it in to **** up the design."

You don't like it, that's fine but show me another car even close to the price range that looks decent and offers a similar level of performance.

masraum 07-20-2019 06:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by javadog (Post 10530552)
You don’t have a very good eye. First, let’s assume that you understand that one of those red cars is not a Corvette.

After that, take a look at the blue car and the Ferrari. They have the same basic shape and proportion’s, even some of the features like the lower side window line is eerily similar. There are differences in the details, that’s what I’ve been complaining about. GM adds a great deal of unnecessary complexity and none of it makes the basic design better. Some of it is a nod to usability, like the increased ramp angle in the front, but most of it’s just unnecessary, fake complexity for it’s own sake.

For example, why does the Corvette have the two huge side air intakes?

Trying to keep things exciting enough for the folks that want their car to look tough/macho/cool? I'm sure that some of these things are functional. The Porsche GTx cars have a lot going on, but I'm sure that all of it is functional.

"two huge side intakes" - to get a bunch of air for cooling and internal combustion? It is mid engined, and it's running a pretty big lump back there.

The Acura also has huge intakes on the side (and so do most Lamborghinis, McLarens, Boxster/Cayman, <insert mid-engined performance car here>)
https://media.ed.edmunds-media.com/a...em_13_1280.jpg

masraum 07-20-2019 06:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by javadog (Post 10530595)
Yes, I always want to drive around in a fighter jet with no wings.

Intakes that large on the sides only make sense if the radiators are side mounted, like the 1980s Ferrari testarossa. If that is the case, then they don’t need the intake grills at the front of the car.

GM is famous for doing stupid things like that. Compare the front end of the Corvette and the Ferrari. You’ll notice the Corvette has a greater ramp angle at the bottom, to aid in practicality. We wouldn’t want to scrape the front getting into a driveway, or going over a speedbump. But wait! They also include a feature where you can push a button and raise the front end for more clearance. So that design feature really isn’t needed, GM just threw it in because they like to **** up the design. It has no functional purpose.

Don't forget brake cooling, oil cooling, transmission cooling...

Is the front end lift standard or an option?

javadog 07-20-2019 07:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by masraum (Post 10530628)
Don't forget brake cooling, oil cooling, transmission cooling...

Is the front end lift standard or an option?

Hey, you forgot A/C cooling. Probably the most important thing to the average 75-year-old Corvette owner.

I don’t know about the option list, all I know is that it’s available .

ErVikingo 07-20-2019 07:04 AM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1563630534.jpg

Another mid engine for comparison.


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