Getting older and testosterone boosters

[expatriot98]

Originally Posted by David

I recently asked my cardiologist about testosterone replacement and he said he wasn't concerned as long as I was just bringing my levels up to normal and not beyond. He said before I consider it I should try eating more fatty red meat and less vegetables and grains and see if that improves my mood and energy.

He should lose his medical license.

[asphaltgambler]

My experience on this. I'm 60 and a few years back went to the doc with similar complaints. he ran full blood work as that had been a few years since my last run of that.

My testosterone was very low and my A1C was higher than it should have been. Point is I knew I was 'off' in more than 1 way but made no assumptions other than I need to go the doctor, get a complete physical with blood work.

I am now on a daily topical 'Testim' generic at a very low dose. I'm now back to where I should be at my age.

[David]

Originally Posted by 9dreizig

Doesn't that new wife of yours improve your mood and energy ?? How you doing buddy ?

The new wife isn't so new anymore. Things are still good but it has been a few years.

Let me know if you're in town and I'll do the same if I'm our west.

[David]

Originally Posted by expatriot98

He should lose his medical license.

Are you referring the hormones or the diet? I had just finished a second round of blood tests although testosterone was not part of them. I just asked out of curiosity since a few friends of mine are getting testosterone. His diet recommendation was based on me being in perfect heath with only my cholesterol being low.

I see the cardiologist because my father died of a heart attack at 43 and my brother had a heart attack at 57. I'm 52 and in much better health than either of them. My cardiologist is a fellow cyclist and told me I don't need a cardiologist but I go just to be safe.

[tabs]

As you age Testosterone turns against you and causes Prostrate cancer...that came from my Dads Oncologist.

So you wana bump your Testosterone levels..

[greglepore]

Originally Posted by flatbutt

At 67 and living with permanent nerve damage my muscle tone is equal to that of a 10 year old boy. I've looked at T therapy and came away with "thanks but no". Bottom line is our biology is not intended to maintain a higher level of testosterone at our age (+60's). No I'm not a doctor, but I spent nearly all of my adult life as a pharma chemist and I did development work for a generic outfit. Some people may be able to get away with it but not in general. YMMV

I'm in Flat's identical situation but 59. My thought is that it will accelerate the growth of all kinds of bad stuff that aging folks are prone to anyway, so no. I did have libido issues due to my neuropathy meds. Stopped them, pain wasn't much worse. Sex drive returned.

[expatriot98]

Originally Posted by David

Are you referring the hormones or the diet? I had just finished a second round of blood tests although testosterone was not part of them. I just asked out of curiosity since a few friends of mine are getting testosterone. His diet recommendation was based on me being in perfect heath with only my cholesterol being low.

I see the cardiologist because my father died of a heart attack at 43 and my brother had a heart attack at 57. I'm 52 and in much better health than either of them. My cardiologist is a fellow cyclist and told me I don't need a cardiologist but I go just to be safe.

Diet - Any cardiologist that recommends fatty red meat and fewer vegetables is a quack. Most docs get very little education in nutrition. Sounds like you are doing well. Keep it up!

[Cajundaddy]

At 63 my T levels are still ok and my little buddy is still in the game. I do notice less stamina on a very physically demanding task or a long hike to a local mountain peak. I guess I am not 20 anymore.

I discussed this with my Doc at the last physical and she was against T supplements for me, but suggested other natural ways to improve energy. Eat real food, get plenty of exercise, lifting free weights 3x per week, all have a natural effect on our energy levels and hormone production.

[masraum]

fasting increases testosteron naturally and doesn't have the side effects (death) that taking pills or getting shots does.

[LakeCleElum]

I tried the Gel for a few months. Doc checked PSA levels often. Started to rise right away. I bailed, not worth the risk......I've just accepted the fact I don't have the drive I used to have.....

[bpu699]

Your testosterone level is supposed to go down as you age. Peaks as a teen to your 20's.

Testosterone in your 40's if clinically low? Yeah, sure, take some testosterone.

In your 50's? Errrr... probably not a good idea.

In your 60's? Not a great idea.

And define low... you may be low yet completely normal for your age...

Testosterone increases risk of stroke, heart disease, elevated cholesterol, worsens atheroschlerosis, BPH, prostate cancer, etc...

For the OP, no way I hell you should even consider it with prostate cancer, absolute contraindication...

Prostate CA is treated with testosterone blockers... Taking testosterone is like feeing the cancer...

[asphaltgambler]

For me the 'cure' is also eating better, sensibly and doing cardio regularly. In the past I had very low T levels even for my age. It was affecting my mood, general overall feeling, long bouts of depression, etc.

So to be clear, I am now maintaining a level near or at what is reasonable for a relatively healthy 60 yr old guy. Mentally and physically much better all 'round. I have mine monitored twice a year is addition to other blood work to ensure the train doesn't jump off into the ditch.

[rfuerst911sc]

Sounds like the answer is no which is what I thought . I learned a few things so thanks guys .

[rattlsnak]

I've been on a daily gel for @ 4 years now. My T level was @ 200ish which is at the very bottom of the scale and now with the medicine, I'm about 450-550ish. It has definitely helped in the bedroom and now I'm leery of quitting it because my wife would not be happy.. lol. But I do miss a few days here and there on purpose.

[Superman]

Testosterone promotes prostate problems, I am told.

[expatriot98]

Originally Posted by David

Are you referring the hormones or the diet? I had just finished a second round of blood tests although testosterone was not part of them. I just asked out of curiosity since a few friends of mine are getting testosterone. His diet recommendation was based on me being in perfect heath with only my cholesterol being low.

I see the cardiologist because my father died of a heart attack at 43 and my brother had a heart attack at 57. I'm 52 and in much better health than either of them. My cardiologist is a fellow cyclist and told me I don't need a cardiologist but I go just to be safe.

Any Dr that advises fatty meat and fewer vegetables and grains is a quack.

[Sebastrue]

Testosterone boosters are a very nice idea, man. I used to take them a couple of months ago and they really helped me return my "power" in bed. But you should be very careful. First of all, speak to your GP or with a pharmacist and ask about which medicines would be better for you and your organism. Study all the articles on the internet, as I did and only after that, you can choose some pills and take them. Because this is not a very safe treatment and you don't want to harm your body. https://www.docarzt.com - This article helped me understand which supplements are the best ones.

[masraum]

Originally Posted by tabs

As you age Testosterone turns against you and causes Prostrate cancer...that came from my Dads Oncologist.

So you wana bump your Testosterone levels..

I believe that I've also read that getting testosterone via shots/pills/gel/whatever increases risk of heart attack.

[wdfifteen]

Originally Posted by Superman

Testosterone promotes prostate problems, I am told.

My doc told me that when he said no to T therapy. It can exacerbate all manner of prostate problems, including cancer.

[Cajundaddy]

My MDs have suggested that the risks outweigh the benefits for most unless your T is approaching zero. Their advice is to regenerate your own levels with those cliche yet proven methods:

Eat a well balanced diet of fresh fruit, fresh vegetables, and whole meats.
Lower your BMI
Get plenty of daily exercise including both cardio and weight training.
Get plenty of sleep with consistent bed and wake times.
Lower your stress levels by taking time for yourself.
Date women 1/2 your age.