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ky911sc 08-03-2019 04:17 PM

Lies from the boss
 
Just this week was told by my boss that there were no salary increases or bonuses for special projects this year. So Friday on a conference call he was sharing his screen and an email pops up from the cfo that the bonus for one of my peers was approved. Needless to say I was pissed the rest of the day. Currently working on a major restructuring project, and feel that my engineer and I are getting the shaft. I drafted a note to him telling him I saw the email about the bonus and explained my position and opinion. What does the Pelican forum think about a good way to handle this, short of walking....

RWebb 08-03-2019 04:30 PM

send the Email just before you walk to a different job

tabs 08-03-2019 04:33 PM

Now you know what they think of you..just another pos to be wiped off their shoes.

Baz 08-03-2019 04:48 PM

Keep your friends close....and your enemies closer.

In other words.....don't let on you saw the email. Just quietly go about finding a better job. Then get the last laugh.

Por_sha911 08-03-2019 05:03 PM

Embarrassing the boss will not get you the raise. You have been told that you are not worth more money and then lied to. I don't want to work there. Do you?

pavulon 08-03-2019 06:34 PM

Send a congratulatory e-mail to your peer and cc your boss.

Neilk 08-03-2019 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by pavulon (Post 10546053)
Send a congratulatory e-mail to your peer and cc your boss.

Great answer :D

Bill Douglas 08-03-2019 07:36 PM

Maybe the other guy is just better than you and boss was being polite to you by saying no bonuses. Other than saying you didn't make the grade.

Crowbob 08-03-2019 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by pavulon (Post 10546053)
Send a congratulatory e-mail to your peer and cc your boss.

And start looking for another job. Your boss will not appreciate the snark and he can make your life even more miserabler than he has already if, in actual fact, he did lie to you. Sometimes a boss gets upstaged by a bigger boss. Well not sometimes. All the time.

OTOH, perhaps he meant to tell you there's no more raises or bonuses for special projects...for you.

Were it me, I'd delete the draft...and not do any more special projects.

herr_oberst 08-03-2019 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Crowbob (Post 10546088)
Were it me, I'd delete the draft...and not do any more special projects.

Delete the draft and get yourself a new boss.

LWJ 08-03-2019 09:35 PM

Yes. Get a new boss!

unclebilly 08-03-2019 11:29 PM

What makes you think you deserve a raise and this other guy doesn’t? Perhaps he is currently underpaid?Do you know his current salary?

I’ve gotten guys who were underpaid salary bumps during wage freezes before - its part of being a good manager and going to bat for your team.

I’ve been doing this for a few years and have never once asked for a raise. At the job I left recently, over 13 years my base salary more than doubled in addition to bonuses and options that were often as much as my base salary.

Stop being an entitled little ***** and get on with your job.

tabs 08-03-2019 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by unclebilly (Post 10546174)
What makes you think you deserve a raise and this other guy doesn’t? Perhaps he is currently underpaid?Do you know his current salary?

I’ve gotten guys who were underpaid salary bumps during wage freezes before - its part of being a good manager and going to bat for your team.

I’ve been doing this for a few years and have never once asked for a raise. At the job I left recently, over 13 years my base salary more than doubled in addition to bonuses and options that were often as much as my base salary.

Stop being an entitled little ***** and get on with your job.

Did you lie to your employee to?

sc_rufctr 08-03-2019 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Baz (Post 10545969)
Keep your friends close....and your enemies closer.

In other words.....don't let on you saw the email. Just quietly go about finding a better job. Then get the last laugh.

This! Ask yourself, Do you really want to work for a boss that would lie to you?

If you think you're about to get canned... Walking out to a better job would be sweet but waiting for a redundancy package would be smarter.

I received a really nice one back in February (after 19 years service) and it feels pretty good looking at that money sitting in my account.
I'm shopping for a new rental property right now. The "package" I received will serve as the down payment.
When I'm sitting on my arse retired and receiving income from that rental property I'll have a pretty big smile on my face. ;)

KFC911 08-04-2019 02:10 AM

I retired from a huge corporate IT career at 48. I won't say low level management is paid to BS....but they are :(. I had that carrot dangled when I was about 25....no thanks ;)! I never, ever asked for a raise, and left all four of my gigs on "my terms".

"I can replace this job before you get the available opening to HR....for a LOT more $" :).

Every manager I ever had knew it too....except one :(.

It's YOUR career....

Johnny Paycheck ;)

KFC911 08-04-2019 02:19 AM

I never received a "raise" the last few years of my career either...while youngins (paying their dues like I did), got 'em...

I had no problem with that...the "rai$e pool" was finite, and I was salary capped for years....not a bad problem to have either ;)

Chocaholic 08-04-2019 03:49 AM

Could be a million reasons for the scenario you described. Only you can decide if it’s worth the hassle and headaches with finding another job. In most cases, it’s not. Grass is rarely greener. As long as you’re on the employee side of the equation, lies, politics and game playing by management is not unique to your company.

Put it behind you.

wdfifteen 08-04-2019 04:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Baz (Post 10545969)
Keep your friends close....and your enemies closer.

In other words.....don't let on you saw the email. Just quietly go about finding a better job. Then get the last laugh.

Good advice. As you walk out the door, let them know you know your boss is a liar.

Crowbob 08-04-2019 04:36 AM

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Originally Posted by wdfifteen (Post 10546276)
Good advice. As you walk out the door, let them know you know your boss is a liar.

Mmm, no.

This is not good advice.

Yes: walk out the door. No: open your mouth for snark.

Had a guy quit awhile back after sending out a blast email lambasting the politics of the organization he just quit.

Pretty sure the guy will NEVER work in the field again. Not by choice, mind you.

Like I always say, always burn that bridge when you get to it.

svandamme 08-04-2019 04:55 AM

Have you tried screwing your way to a promotion?

or when that fails , claim he sexually intimidated you?


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