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john70t 08-19-2019 05:59 PM

(^Sharknado so wins the internet tonight...but technically it would be a waterspout or hurricane when over water. Shark Waterspout ;) )

The GW behavior is still trying to be figured out by scientists.

They migrate a long way and are a bit random:
https://www.wired.com/2013/12/secret-lives-great-white-sharks/
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scottmandue 08-19-2019 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by rusnak (Post 10563970)
Why can't there be a Great Black Shark?

And a great Asian shark... and a great Latino shark?

Bill Douglas 08-20-2019 12:29 AM

Eww yuck, I don't like sharks. I'm allergic to them, I come out in bites.

My dog is facinated by them. We found one, one day that got stuck in the surf and washed up on the beach. We carried it back in to the sea but he's been wading around in the sea each morning for a long time hoping to see his friend :rolleyes:

Baz 08-20-2019 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by tevake (Post 10563913)
There seems to have been more than usual number of shark bites this summer along the east coast. Lots in Florida, most of them around Baz's hood, New Smyrna beach, which the news folks are now calling the shark bite capital of the world.

Probably just a ploy to keep the surf uncrowded, clever Baz

Cheers Richard

Ha ha...that's right, Rich.....and it seems to be working too! :)

I think the claim to fame here is despite so many bites....we've never suffered any deaths. So that's gotta be a positive, eh? :p

oldE 08-20-2019 04:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Baz (Post 10564318)
Ha ha...that's right, Rich.....and it seems to be working too! :)

I think the claim to fame here is despite so many bites....we've never suffered any deaths. So that's gotta be a positive, eh? :p

You might want to ask "Stumpy" over there.:D

Best
Les

LEAKYSEALS951 08-20-2019 05:57 AM

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I'm at the beach right now... so this is a timely thread.
https://www.wikihow.com/Identify-Shark-Teeth

Rusty Heap 08-20-2019 07:15 AM

Back on topic.


Sharks for the most part are lazy. I've dove with them dozens of times.

Rub my tummy like a puppy dog they say.

Seeing a school of hammerhead during a dive is my dream bucket list.



Personally, my biggest is swimming with 13 foot Tiger Sharks in Beqa Lagoon Fiji (pronounced Beeng-ga )


you are surround by dozens of them lazy puppy dogs.

see for yourself. done this dive many times. It's surreal, but totally safe.


https://youtu.be/0E23TM7VDkU?t=18

Facts:

What are the odds of being bitten by a shark?
The odds of getting attacked and killed by a shark are 1 in 4 million




Kids choking on a balloon kills more.


While us nanny People are killing sharks globally at about 12,000 an hour.

100 million a year.


Sharks are a sign of a health reef.


any serious questions, I'll be glad to share personal experiences, including my one "tense" moment eye to eye with a shark 10 feet from me, and it was interesting.

He DID NOT like it when my Camera Strobe fired. They're very sensitive to electrical charge.

90% of surfer attacks, are typically in murky water at dawn or dusk, when a Surfer paddling out on his board does totally look like a turtle. tasty.

Want real info?

https://www.sharksider.com/know-dangerous-shark%E2%80%A8/

sammyg2 08-20-2019 07:55 AM

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If you don't like being at the top of the food chain, that's your bidness. Not that there's anything wrong with that.


I generally go out of my way to stay on top.

Jeff Higgins 08-20-2019 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by stuartj (Post 10563960)
Heres my best shark story. Its amongst the memories one might take, hopefully, take to the grave....

It was many years ago, surfing at remote cold water location. Access via miles of fire trails through national park, a 350ft cliff descent followed by a jump off a rock ledge into the frigid Southern Ocean. Remote. There were three of us. After a time, being close to the cliff after a wave, I saw one on my friends back up on the rock ledge, waving his arms over his head....the other was several hundred yards back out to sea. Andy appeared to be OK, so I started to paddle back out.

I was moving across foam covered water, and it cleared and opened to the deep green. Under me, moving slowly with me, was a Great White shark. Its head was size of Toyota Corolla. It was fkng huge. It was one of the sharks the local abalone divers call 'submarines' because when they pass, they are so big, they displace water. The foam on the water closed over. She was somewhere down there and I had to go fetch James from out the back.

I sort rationalized by thinking if she wanted one us, it would have happened already and there was nothing anybody could do. But it was a long long paddle. A deeply impressive experience.

I have a Hawaiian buddy with a similar story. No thank you... I'm happy to report that I live in an area of the world mostly devoid of those things. What we do have however, is the mighty Orca.

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Originally Posted by stuartj (Post 10564033)
Dunno....but these can give you a big fright.

https://3c1703fe8d.site.internapcdn....aksocialti.jpg

And yes, they can give you a wonderfully big fright. They appear to be, however, pretty friendly towards us poor humans. I've paddled sea kayaks among the out on our Puget Sound and have never felt the least bit threatened. Or maybe I'm just not all that bright...

RWebb 08-20-2019 04:44 PM

Orcas are often friendly to humans but in the past they had a habit of bumping ice floes to knock the Inuit into the water for food.

Dolphins are your buddies - they hate sharks, will kill them if they can, and will play with humans.

I always thought a fun wetsuit design would be to put big white patches on it like a killer whale - give the sharks something to look at & think about...

Racerbvd 08-20-2019 04:51 PM

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stuartj 08-20-2019 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff Higgins (Post 10565081)

They appear to be, however, pretty friendly towards us poor humans. I've paddled sea kayaks among the out on our Puget Sound and have never felt the least bit threatened. Or maybe I'm just not all that bright...

AFAIK- there is no record of a wild killer whales ever doing harm to hoomans. In fact the opposite- at Eden, Australia, for years Orca herded migrating whales for the whalers. Fascinating story, the skeleton of "Old Tom" is preserved there.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killer_whales_of_Eden,_New_South_Wales

A friend and I had a large male go fully SeaWorld on us, leaping out of the water between us and belly wacking to announce his very impressive arrival, then charging around us in high speed circles, described by a 4ft tall fin, herding us. He had a lady friend with him and apparently he wanted the room. Another beautiful remote location, we climbed onto the rocks and watched them frolic. It was fantastic.

PD41 08-20-2019 06:26 PM

I love sharks. Went fishing yesterday on a buddies boat about 10 miles off So Cal and we were talking about doing some shark fishing.

Keith Poe lives nearby and is shark tagger. Stopped by his house one day to check out some big White shark teeth marks on his boat. He has been on shark week the last couple years with the Mako shows. SharkTagger.com is his site. He posts a lot of videos on his facebook page.

Sample video; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjW6qf1yLu4

Jeff Higgins 08-20-2019 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by stuartj (Post 10565145)
AFAIK- there is no record of a wild killer whales ever doing harm to hoomans. In fact the opposite- at Eden, Australia, for years Orca herded migrating whales for the whalers. Fascinating story, the skeleton of "Old Tom" is preserved there.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killer_whales_of_Eden,_New_South_Wales

A friend and I had a large male go fully SeaWorld on us, leaping out of the water between us and belly wacking to announce his very impressive arrival, then charging around us in high speed circles, described by a 4ft tall fin, herding us. He had a lady friend with him and apparently he wanted the room. Another beautiful remote location, we climbed onto the rocks and watched them frolic. It was fantastic.

That is awesome, Stuart. And you are absolutely right - no record whatsoever of a wild one ever harming one of us. Now lock one up in some bullschitt little kiddie swimming pool so the fat and lazy masses can watch them do stupid dog tricks, and they do seem to resent that. Smart animals. Anyone who wants to see one should be made to go to their house, though. It's well worth the effort. I should get back out there now that I'm retired - it's been far too long for me.

Por_sha911 08-21-2019 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeff Higgins (Post 10565259)
That is awesome, Stuart. And you are absolutely right - no record whatsoever of a wild one ever harming one of us. Now lock one up in some bullschitt little kiddie swimming pool so the fat and lazy masses can watch them do stupid dog tricks, and they do seem to resent that. Smart animals. Anyone who wants to see one should be made to go to their house, though. It's well worth the effort. I should get back out there now that I'm retired - it's been far too long for me.

Are you so clueless that you don't realize that unfortunately not everyone is rich like you. They are barely making ends meet. Seeing nature in Aquariums and exhibitions is their only chance.

Rusty Heap 08-21-2019 11:43 AM

Cheap Entertainment.............even for the "poor" people who hang out on A PORSCHE website and have been bothered enough to post 13,474 times. I can't imagine your agony


Big Glass bowl at Goodwill $2.00

3 gold fish at pet store $.50 cents


For less than a AM/PM hotdog and coke ,


put in on a counter and you've got free priceless entertainment.


P.S, I'll paypal you the $2.50 if needed.

Jeff Higgins 08-21-2019 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Por_sha911 (Post 10565913)
Are you so clueless that you don't realize that unfortunately not everyone is rich like you. They are barely making ends meet. Seeing nature in Aquariums and exhibitions is their only chance.

Heh heh... well played, sir. I think this one might just have whistled right over my good buddy Rusty's balding noggin.

And oh, yeah - Mr. Heap has the salt water fish tank to die for. Woefully short on sharks and orcas, however. Never fear, though, Mr. Heap is a card-carrying Master Diver (and master baiter) in 3/4 of this planet's Third World ocean front countries. He can take you down and show you sharks - literally nose to nose. Assuming you can afford to do so, of course. :D

island911 08-21-2019 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain Ahab Jr (Post 10563858)
Don't think we've had a shark thread yet :cool:

hmm... Why do I get the feeling that you are testing the waters for a Big Whale thread? :cool:

RWebb 08-21-2019 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by stuartj (Post 10565145)
AFAIK- there is no record of a wild killer whales ever doing harm to hoomans. ...

there are certainly records of them trying to do harm to humans

'legends' or oral histories of the Inuit, then of Euro- mariers

written records date from expeditions in the early 1900s

small boats have been destroyed - not whale boats but recently - maybe they got too close to the kids

a surfer got bit in the 1960s or 70s - maybe he looked like a seal


Orcas are highly intelligent - more than humans by some criteria, but don't expect all Orcas to welcome you as a friend or be your pet

Jeff Higgins 08-21-2019 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by RWebb (Post 10566190)
there are certainly records of them trying to do harm to humans

'legends' or oral histories of the Inuit, then of Euro- mariers

written records date from expeditions in the early 1900s

small boats have been destroyed - not whale boats but recently - maybe they got too close to the kids

a surfer got bit in the 1960s or 70s - maybe he looked like a seal


Orcas are highly intelligent - more than humans by some criteria, but don't expect all Orcas to welcome you as a friend or be your pet

True, dat - I think we could more accurately state that there is no record of unprovoked attacks on us humans. The times I went out in sea kayaks, with guides, they always very clearly emphasized how big they were (big bulls can go 12,000 pounds), and that they might just "defend" themselves or their small calves if we got close enough to be perceived as a "threat".

That said, I have actually laid my hands on wild orcas, who really didn't seem to care. But, yes, they had plenty of stories of kayaks being flipped. What is notable, though, is that once its poor former occupant was in the water, nothing else happened. They never "attack", apparently, once they have made their point.


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