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sammyg2 09-19-2019 05:22 AM

Make the weight match the displacement to achieve neutral buoyancy.
Loose the weight or increase the displacement by around 2300 cu. ft.
Larger ballast tanks would do it, think gurney bulge ;)

Heck, they could just stretch it a little like they do with them limo-zeens.

KFC911 09-19-2019 05:28 AM

There is nothing wrong with that sub that LOTS of Morton Salt can't fix ;)...

pavulon 09-19-2019 05:40 AM

Smokey would acid dip it.

gordner 09-19-2019 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by sammyg2 (Post 10597344)
Make the weight match the displacement to achieve neutral buoyancy.
Loose the weight or increase the displacement by around 2300 cu. ft.
Larger ballast tanks would do it, think gurney bulge ;)

Heck, they could just stretch it a little like they do with them limo-zeens.

Larger ballast tanks would not do it. They would have to increase the displacement of the hull, ballast tanks do not do that. The entire interior could be ballast tanks, if the hull ways more than the water it displaces it is only going down.

Noah930 09-19-2019 10:13 AM

They needed some of those women from that movie, Hidden Figures.

Or maybe just my 9th grade science teacher.

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Originally Posted by sammyg2 (Post 10597344)

Heck, they could just stretch it a little like they do with them limo-zeens.

Can that even be done? A ship has a keel, right? Once the keel has been laid (and I presume construction has gotten that far, already), can a ship be modular enough that you can just splice in another x amount of hull (and keel) to increase its displacement? The article mentioned adding length to the vessel, but I'm sure it's not as Lego-simple as that.

sammyg2 09-19-2019 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by gordner (Post 10597587)
Larger ballast tanks would not do it. They would have to increase the displacement of the hull, ballast tanks do not do that. The entire interior could be ballast tanks, if the hull ways more than the water it displaces it is only going down.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1568916803.jpg

I was thinking external ballast tanks, like the ole torpedo bulges from dubya dubya II which I kinda referenced via the gurney bubble thing.
But I Didn't quite write what I was thinking.

KFC911 09-19-2019 10:18 AM

Morton Salt...with enough salt in the ocean that sub would be a boat....I'm just sayin' :).

sammyg2 09-19-2019 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Noah930 (Post 10597620)
They needed some of those women from that movie, Hidden Figures.

Or maybe just my 9th grade science teacher.



Can that even be done? A ship has a keel, right? Once the keel has been laid (and I presume construction has gotten that far, already), can a ship be modular enough that you can just splice in another x amount of hull (and keel) to increase its displacement? The article mentioned adding length to the vessel, but I'm sure it's not as Lego-simple as that.

Dunno. Mongo only pawn ... in game of life.

I've never built a submarine but I figure there's nothing simple about it at all no matter what yer doing.
A guy who used to work for me served on the Dallas in the reactor room, he told me that the difference betwixt a hunter/killer and a boomer is that they cut the middle of the HK and splice in a bunch of missile silos to create a boomer.
prolly a little more to that too.


But like dad said in his memoirs .......
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I am convinced that anything can be accomplished if enough time and effort are devoted to the task.

sammyg2 09-19-2019 10:27 AM

Just checked, the interwebs says no keel so it would be easy-peasy.
They couldn't put it on the internet it it weren't true. :rolleyes:

Hope this ain't top secret ....


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1568917633.jpg

Sooner or later 09-19-2019 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by pavulon (Post 10597357)
Smokey would acid dip it.

Quality post.

sammyg2 09-19-2019 10:33 AM

Looks like they build em in pieces

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1568917939.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1568917939.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1568917939.jpg


I think this one is on the take-apart and not the go-together:
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1568917939.jpg

gordner 09-19-2019 12:16 PM

They are built a lot like airplanes, and I don't think it would be a huge feat to add hull sections. obviously easier in the design stage lol.
Sammy, I missed your part about gurney bulge or I likely would have understood what you meant.
As to similarities, they do not just stick in a missile section. The goal of a hunter killer and a boomer are very different, and thus so is the design in many ways. The Los Angeles class hunter has a beam of 33 feet, the Ohio class boomer is 42.

Noah930 09-19-2019 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by gordner (Post 10597798)
The Los Angeles class hunter has a beam of 33 feet, the Ohio class boomer is 42.

Dude, just slice down the middle and add in 9 feet of hull. Done.

sammyg2 09-19-2019 02:00 PM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1568930437.jpg

Sooner or later 09-19-2019 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by sammyg2 (Post 10597900)

That and a bunch of these.


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1568930740.jpg

rfuerst911sc 09-19-2019 02:20 PM

Don't forget the Flex Seal as a final layer of protection over the duct tape :D

sammyg2 09-19-2019 02:22 PM

See, we got this.

varmint 09-19-2019 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by KC911 (Post 10597626)
Morton Salt...with enough salt in the ocean that sub would be a boat....I'm just sayin' :).



Dead Sea fleet.

Scott Douglas 09-19-2019 03:48 PM

Ya gotta give 'em credit for finding the mistake BEFORE they launched it.

pete3799 09-19-2019 03:55 PM

Isn't a submarine supposed to go down?


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