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dennis in se pa 10-10-2019 01:05 PM

Matt Lauer guilty?
 
I thought you were innocent until PROVEN guilty. The woman that now says (years later) he raped her, also admitted to having consensual sex with him many times thereafter. Every woman you ever had sex with could do this to you! That's BS!

Turbo_pro 10-10-2019 01:53 PM

Jury is still out but it doesn't sound like a credible story.....

yet exponentially more credible than any accusation against Associate Justice Brett Kavanaugh.

madcorgi 10-10-2019 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turbo_pro (Post 10619920)
Jury is still out but it doesn't sound like a credible story.....

yet exponentially more credible than any accusation against Associate Justice Brett Kavanaugh.

Please slither back to PARF where you came from.

Chocaholic 10-10-2019 02:11 PM

Ditto. He’s correct. You’re not. Now, back to PARF with you.

Gretch 10-10-2019 02:17 PM

follow the $.........

Eric Coffey 10-10-2019 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by madcorgi (Post 10619938)
Please slither back to PARF where you came from.

If you are going to play PPOT hall-monitor and scold folks for PARFy-ish comments, it might be a good idea to not have the PARF-iest avatar of all. Just saying...

dad911 10-10-2019 03:14 PM

Hypocrite award of the day......

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1570749183.jpg

dennis in se pa 10-10-2019 03:39 PM

Can't we be civil? There is the IGNORE function if you are offended.

Jims5543 10-10-2019 04:46 PM

I was raped..... then I came back for more over and over and over and over gain.

Yeah, that is a solid accusation.

Jims5543 10-10-2019 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by dennis in se pa (Post 10620043)
Can't we be civil? There is the IGNORE function if you are offended.

ignored and reported.

DanielDudley 10-10-2019 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by dennis in se pa (Post 10620043)
Can't we be civil? There is the IGNORE function if you are offended.

As soon as you posted Matt Lauer's name, your thread was doomed.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/09/business/media/matt-lauer-ronan-farrow-book.html

There is a book. It alleges dirt. Money will be made, and I have no idea how much of what is true. I know there are women who have been brutally raped, and I know there are women who sometimes change their minds about having sex during or after the event. I think guys think that forced sex is rape, and some women feel that saying yes but not really meaning it makes a man a rapist for not knowing that.

I get that a woman can FEEL violated when having sex with a man who would stop if she asked him. I personally feel like that is doing a huge disservice to men, and the woman's own integrity. It also seems like a disservice to all of those women that really have been raped under dire circumstances. I get that both types of situation feel like a violation. I also get that both women probably need some kind of therapy.

OTOH, I know there are guys who would stop if a woman asked them to stop, and guys who wouldn't. I know there are guys and gals who use sex as a commodity, in exchange for other things, and who wouldn't hesitate to screw you or screw you over for personal advantage. And there are people of both sexes who use conquests as personal ego boosters. But as far as I am concerned, if you allowed it, it was not rape. You may have been used, but that is still a far cry from the true horrors that people suffer which they cannot stop or walk away from.

sc_rufctr 10-10-2019 06:17 PM

It looks like Matt took things further than she wanted to go. Here's a full rundown of what allegedly happened.

https://www.marieclaire.com.au/matt-lauer-rape-allegation

In Nevils’ account, according to Variety, Lauer anally raped her in his hotel room after a night out while they were in Russia for the 2014 Sochi Olympics. :eek:

It gets worse in the link...

That's not what I would call vanilla sex & if she said no and he did it anyway then that's absolutely wrong.

legion 10-10-2019 06:50 PM

Don't care. I see nothing shocking in the idea that the same talking heads that lie to us daily lie to each other and abuse their position for personal gain.

john70t 10-10-2019 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by DanielDudley (Post 10620153)
There is a book. It alleges dirt. Money will be made, ...

There it is.

Rick Lee 10-10-2019 08:00 PM

If I were a foreigner in Russia and a victim of rape, I can't think of a better revenge than filing charges in Russia, where the accused would sit in a Russian jail, awaiting trial. Why didn't she speak up then?

tabs 10-10-2019 09:39 PM

Next you Boyz will be saying Harvey Weistein is just misunderstood...

javadog 10-11-2019 04:54 AM

That sounds great until you factor in that they continued to have sex for weeks and months afterwards. How many raped women would continue to have sex with the man that raped them, over and over again?

It’s impossible to know the truth but color me skeptical.

sc_rufctr 10-11-2019 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by peteremsley (Post 10620399)
So you reckon they had sexy time of some kind, and then he wanted to put it in her bum - but she didn't want? Thats how we got here? there is no excuse.

If you read the story I attached that's pretty much what happened but he didn't use lube apparently... :eek:
(It gets graphic in the attached story)

The whole thing is so "Roman Polanski" except that the lady involved was an adult.

If she said no and he did it anyway? ... Fuche him. He's got it coming from Bubba and the other boys in the big house.
I wonder if they use lube?

sc_rufctr 10-11-2019 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by javadog (Post 10620449)
That sounds great until you factor in that they continued to have sex for weeks and months afterwards. How many raped women would continue to have sex with the man that raped them, over and over again?

It’s impossible to know the truth but color me skeptical.

I get that but who knows what these two spoilt brats were doing. Were they playing games? Some BDSM stuff that got out of hand? Is she jilted? Did he see other women and rub her nose in it? Or was he just an ******* that should have treated her better? Maybe she's got mental health issues??? Whatever the reason she made a complaint and they acted on it. Like so many things in life... Things soon get out of hand.

rfuerst911sc 10-11-2019 06:00 AM

Did he get the gold ? :D

sc_rufctr 10-11-2019 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by rfuerst911sc (Post 10620489)
Did he get the gold ? :D

I want to ask what you mean but I'm not sure I should... lol ;)

cairns 10-11-2019 07:03 AM

Lauer is just another MSM scumbag. But unlike many others he's getting what he deserves. His wife didn't file for divorce because she believed he was innocent.....

Ziggythecat 10-11-2019 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by cairns (Post 10620548)
Lauer is just another MSM scumbag. But unlike many others he's getting what he deserves. His wife didn't file for divorce because she believed he was innocent.....

You have no idea why Roger Ailes “retired” from Fox, do you ?

cairns 10-11-2019 10:53 AM

Quote:

You have no idea why Roger Ailes “retired” from Fox, do you ?
For the same reason Charley Rose left PBS.

Moron.

dennis in se pa 10-11-2019 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sc_rufctr (Post 10620198)
It looks like Matt took things further than she wanted to go. Here's a full rundown of what allegedly happened.

https://www.marieclaire.com.au/matt-lauer-rape-allegation

In Nevils’ account, according to Variety, Lauer anally raped her in his hotel room after a night out while they were in Russia for the 2014 Sochi Olympics. :eek:

It gets worse in the link...

That's not what I would call vanilla sex & if she said no and he did it anyway then that's absolutely wrong.


So right woman, wrong orifice.

dennis in se pa 10-12-2019 05:53 AM

Maybe mentioned here earlier....It seems more accusations are coming out about Matt. But still, no one sleeps over and over with someone who raped them. Am I missing something? This is all about money in this case.

sc_rufctr 10-12-2019 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by dennis in se pa (Post 10621438)
Maybe mentioned here earlier....It seems more accusations are coming out about Matt. But still, no one sleeps over and over with someone who raped them. Am I missing something? This is all about money in this case.

I wouldn't be so sure... Maybe he did the wrong thing and her complaint is legit.

cairns 10-12-2019 06:02 AM

What's worse is what the book says about NBC and its chief execs. Apparently Weinstein owned them and they were up to their own shenanigans. They protected Matt for a long time.

sc_rufctr 10-12-2019 06:33 AM

BTW The most prolific rapist of all time is Bill Cosby. How long was he the "protected" list?

javadog 10-12-2019 07:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sc_rufctr (Post 10621441)
I wouldn't be so sure... Maybe he did the wrong thing and her complaint is legit.

Well, let's ponder this. I wasn't there and haven't read her entire book, but what I understand the facts are would be these:

She didn't immediately go to hotel security and file a complaint.
She didn't immediately go to the police and file a complaint.
She didn't immediately go to her boss and file a complaint.
She continued f*cking him for months afterwards, in his office, in his apartment and in other places.
She wrote in a book about the alleged incident.
Her people leaked this one excerpt from her book, probably to stimulate book sales.

Yeah, sounds pretty legit.
Not.

herr_oberst 10-12-2019 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rfuerst911sc (Post 10620489)
Did he get the gold ? :D

He got the brown (helmet)

Seahawk 10-12-2019 08:39 AM

The paradox of abusive relationships, staying with the abuser, rapist, is beyond the talent of anyone here to handicap. Sorry. Don't pretend to know the dynamics because you don't.

The following is pretty standard fare: One in four women experience domestic abuse in their lifetime, and it is one of the most chronically underreported crimes: only about one quarter of all physical assaults, one fifth of all rapes and one half of all stalkings are reported to the police.

Experts say that the limitations of leaving can be both psychological and physical. Many rationalize their situation. “People wind up blaming themselves for the abusive behavior of their partners,” says Craig Malkin, a clinical psychologist at Harvard Medical School. “They convince themselves if they approach the person differently, maybe they won’t be abused.”

Malkin likened a relationship with an abusive partner to gambling addiction: “The person being abused is focused on the positive and waiting for the next positive. There’s a psychological effect like gambling: the moments of tenderness and intimacy are unpredictable, but they are so intense and fulfilling that the victim winds up staying in the hopes that a moment like that will happen again.”


Matt was married when he had what seems like more than one affair. He was in the power position, much like the Big Dog.

I have never met a man that cheated that wasn't a complete d-bag, quad d-bag if there are kids involved. Not one.

Here is what Bill Mahre said about Monica Lewinsky: “Monica Lewinsky is the one who should apologize to America. She’s the homewrecker. She blackmailed the president.”

Don't be Bill, or any of these f'ing losers:

https://www.bustle.com/articles/23586-these-terrible-monica-lewinsky-jokes-from-the-90s-will-make-you-cringe

Wait.

AFC-911 10-12-2019 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dennis in se pa (Post 10621438)
Maybe mentioned here earlier....It seems more accusations are coming out about Matt. But still, no one sleeps over and over with someone who raped them. Am I missing something? This is all about money in this case.

Perhaps the possibility of having her career ruined? Matt Lauer was one of the biggest morning news personalities on the air at the time.

Turbo_pro 10-16-2019 06:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turbo_pro (Post 10619920)
Jury is still out but it doesn't sound like a credible story..... (*suggesting that the accusations against Lauer are not credible but let's wait and see*)

yet exponentially more credible than any accusation against Associate Justice Brett Kavanaugh.... (*suggesting that innocent until proving guilty is the FAIR standard no matter who is being accused*)


Quote:

Originally Posted by madcorgi (Post 10619938)
Please slither back to PARF where you came from.

Tolerance, open-mindedness and inclusion on display......

Did the angry little puppy just shake his fist and yell "get off my lawn".....
#angry & sad.


*added for clarification*

Bigtoe32067 10-16-2019 10:45 AM

I’m confused. Is Seahawk comparing an adulteress buttf*cker with an abused wife?

The denigrates every woman who is indeed a victim of domestic abuse.

Very piggish!
Tony

Seahawk 10-16-2019 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigtoe32067 (Post 10625304)
I’m confused. Is Seahawk comparing an adulteress buttf*cker with an abused wife?

The denigrates every woman who is indeed a victim of domestic abuse.

Very piggish!
Tony

The opposite.

Tobra 10-16-2019 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanielDudley (Post 10620153)
As soon as you posted Matt Lauer's name, your thread was doomed.

What makes you say this? It seems like there would not be a problem if Terry could manage to control himself.

javadog 10-16-2019 11:28 AM

A more reasonable question to ask might have been whether there's a difference in the behavior of a casual ****-buddy and a wife, in a circumstance such as this. I'd wager they were different.

I'm not supporting Lauer, at all. There was enough smoke that I'd easily accept that his ego made his dick do things it shouldn't have.

Likewise, I have a lot of sympathy for women that have suffered abuse or rape, not to mention the rest that have to put up with constant harassment from random men. There are far too many women that have been victims of this crap; I've known more than a few. It shouldn't happen, period.

But, I don't automatically buy into these stories any more. This one doesn't ring entirely true. Just my opinion, not worth much at the bank.


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