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Innovative new super yacht, aye she's a square rigger.

They have incorporated some newer technology and some old school rig design into a very impressive vessel.
The rotating mast base on an unstayed mast of that size, wow
Sailing trans Atlantic, supporting all the systems on no fuel, fantastic.

Check it out.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9qipWHayS-c

Cheers Richard

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Cool!
Thanks for posting the video- yes cool.

Seen it before, but not such a video.
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awesome, thank you for sharing.

Where do I sign up for a cruise?
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Some other designs to use the wind which the you might like:

Not sue how it works. Some may spin and drive a propeller. idk.

This might not hold up in high seas. It will remain a student CAD project.

Add a sail and reduce fuel costs.

Inflatable.

Add solar panels.

Some kind of variable pressure relief spinnaker to reduce mast stress, increase airflow, and add front-end lift maybe.

Drone. The outcrop may help keep optimal sail angle or catch the pressurized draft. idk.

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Pretty cool.

I imagine it gets sent off and parked in places and the users fly to it?
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Fantastic yacht but all I see is bags of money. Maybe in another life...
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A very good friend of mine who also happens to be very clever dude did the stress analysis on the masts

Also did the masts on this boat 'Yacht A' too, owners wife didn't like the sails looking all untidy when they weren't being used so they're all hidden in each mast
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I asked him if this picture from the Random Pic's was his work too, he just replied 'nope, wouldn't out of bed for anything less than 100 meters'

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More like big buckets of cash, Peter, still pretty interesting. Nice that some big monied folks are into building innovative things like this yacht.

Hey Capt'n, the world of advanced composit design in involved in so many cutting edge projects. I'm sure I'm not telling you anything new . Imagine you have heard of some cool projects.
Those Russians are attracted to some weird yacht designs, like floating fortresses.

Whoa John 70t, those are some out there designs for sure. I have seen those spinning tubes used to power wind generators. Really quiet, unlike conventional propellers in higher winds.

Me too gatotom, sign me up for that Atlantic crossing. Sit back with blended margarita in hand and watch her rolling along at 25 knots.
Push button sail trimming.

Tervuren, you are probably right. In 1999 I was cruising in French Polyneisa and many of those super yachts were traveling thru on their way to Austraila for the America's Cup races, being delivered by their professional crews. They made for entertaining mornings for the cruising sailors sharing the anchorages. Crack of dawn the deck crews started wiping down every surface and polishing the bright work.
We cruisers would get up early to watch with coffee in hand. Quite the contrast, they usually sailed on in a day or two. Short visit to F P.

Cheers Richard

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More like big buckets of cash, Peter, still pretty interesting. Nice that some big monied folks are into building innovative things like this yacht.

Hey Capt'n, the world of advanced composit design in involved in so many cutting edge projects. I'm sure I'm not telling you anything new . Imagine you have heard of some cool projects.
Those Russians are attracted to some weird yacht designs, like floating fortresses.

Whoa John 70t, those are some out there designs for sure. I have seen those spinning tubes used to power wind generators. Really quiet, unlike conventional propellers in higher winds.

Me too gatotom, sign me up for that Atlantic crossing. Sit back with blended margarita in hand and watch her rolling along at 25 knots.
Push button sail trimming.

Cheers Richard
Hey Richard, race car world keeps me too busy to keep up with Russian oligarchs pet projects but you're right composites does open up some cool avenues for boats

A few old F1 work colleagues are involved in the Ineos Team UK America's cup boat, one guy is looking after the teams foils, was shown a video last weekend, has so much lift it was way out the water just being towed, reminds me I really need to wangle myself a team HQ tour

My boating racing history makes bleak reading, would love to work on an Americas Cup or Class 1 Offshore boat, the technology is right up there with the best
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I got interested in foil development when sailboards got so fast that surfboard fins just weren't up to the task.

The rapid development of foils on the foil bourn cats is so clear.
Listen to the foils humming and screeching on the boats at speed in the Cup series in San Fransisco a few years ago. Now they are almost silent at even higher speeds, and that's a good sign. Noise means vibrations and that means drag and cavitation.

Cheers Richard
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Cool project.

Guy at 7:04 "We are predicting we can do transatlantic - NO FUEL USE" I had to LOL - it's been done - maybe a little less luxury - starting over 500 years ago!

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That’s an expensive way for a dozen people to cruise around the world.

You would think a boat/ship that big would be outfitted for more passengers...
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That’s an expensive way for a dozen people to cruise around the world.

You would think a boat/ship that big would be outfitted for more passengers...
A major factor in the size is the speeds the ship can comfortably run at.

Plus, it needs space for the hybrid systems, energy storage, etc.

More passengers also equals more energy consumption.
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I think it has more to do with the fact that they are rich, and rich people do like their space and privacy....
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Thanks for posting.

But let's remember it ain't that innovative. The Maltese Falcon was the first to pioneer a square rig/rotating masts in the modern age.

https://www.boatinternational.com/yachts/editorial-features/maltese-falcon-yacht-video--157
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Cool project.

Guy at 7:04 "We are predicting we can do transatlantic - NO FUEL USE" I had to LOL - it's been done - maybe a little less luxury - starting over 500 years ago!

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Longer ago than that...ever heard of the Vikings? Their ships are an amazingly fast hull design, even by today's standards.
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And the Viking ships had little draft and were lightweight enough to roll across gaps between water.
The Mongol bow conquered most of the known world.
Ancient Roman concrete (i.e.The Colosseum) is still superior to whatever we use today.
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Cool project.

Guy at 7:04 "We are predicting we can do transatlantic - NO FUEL USE" I had to LOL - it's been done - maybe a little less luxury - starting over 500 years ago!

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I get what you are saying here. I've allways kept the systems in my boats very basic, simple to maintain.

But aboard these modern super yachts there is a high expectation of comfort and convenience. Air conditioning thruout, ample fridge and freezer space, full compliment of nav and piloting equipment, push button control of sail handeling, thrusters, anchoring, communications etc. these all require lots of electricity.
So covering all that with out running generators all the time sounds clean and quiet.

In the real world these boats most often have to stop in at major ports while traveling for services and parts resupply. As well as having a dedicated engineering person in the crew. You don't see them doing much exploring or anchoring in remote areas.

Cheers Richard
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I saw the original ship with DynaRig, the Maltese Falcon, this past summer! It was such a geek-out moment that even my wife, who's usually pretty understanding of my interests, must have thought it was strange.

We were in Sardinia for the F1 shutdown, and spent a few days near Porto Cervo. Our place was overlooking one of the coves, and the eyesore that is the Yacht A was moored there the whole time. I was joking to my wife that one day I would like to see the Millennium Falcon in the flesh. As we left to continue our tour of the island, we followed the coastal road to the next cove over, and there she was. I had to do a double take, as it is very low for a ship this long, so it looked deceptively small until another, normal yacht came into view. Unfortunately the sails were down (what's the sailing term for this?), but it was slowly moving under power and even that was such a sight. That evening I confirmed the sighting with a ship tracking website, and also discovered that the Falcon is now a charter ship. So maybe we can throw a Pelican meet on it one day?

We liked Sardinia so much, that we were looking for any excuse to go back. And what better reason than to see the AC75's fly in the America's Cup World Series regatta, in Cagliari next April! I too have some friends who are far smarter and better designers than me working on the Ineos boat ("Britannia"), so hopefully they do well. For me the fascination started with the AC72's flying around SF Bay, so I can't wait to see the latest boats in action, in person this time!

Lastly, does anyone follow SailGP? We missed the UK round as it happened while we were in Sardinia, but looks like great racing and awesome action all around. I gather these F50's are derived from the last AC50.








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