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Sooner or later 11-05-2019 05:56 AM

Shop local

asphaltgambler 11-05-2019 06:21 AM

I rarely shop / buy there. If you research a little they are not always the cheapest especially with shipping where they hook you by sandbagging on delivery dates for the lowest cost hoping you'll upgrade to quicker and more expensive shipping which is usually unnecessary.

This is not the first time I heard or seen this from them. So I avoid it.

GG Allin 11-05-2019 07:23 AM

I recently bought a Walbo 255 fuel pump on Amazon that I'm fairly certain is not genuine. The car would not run past 4000 rpm with it installed. Put stock pump back in and the car ran fine.

reachme 11-05-2019 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Vipergrün (Post 10646931)
Patents do not matter to these people.

They don't
I am still amazed that China was given "Most Favored Nation" in order to continue engagement as a way of influencing foreign policy. This has clearly been a failure though nobody is sure what would have "worked" or if that is possible. If it makes you feel any better my understanding is that Chinese firms do this to each other all the time stealing spokesperson images, branding etc. from more successful Chinese brands.

stevej37 11-05-2019 09:04 AM

Not sure about counterfeit...but I know quite often my Amazon purchases have been used/returned items. Packages stapled or taped where they shouldn't be...ok with me, as long as it works.

Last year, I purchased a new De Marchi cycling jacket from Amazon. One day after using it, I found a house key with Italian writing on, in a small chest pocket on the jacket. Must be genuine!

masraum 11-05-2019 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by asphaltgambler (Post 10647171)
I rarely shop / buy there. If you research a little they are not always the cheapest especially with shipping where they hook you by sandbagging on delivery dates for the lowest cost hoping you'll upgrade to quicker and more expensive shipping which is usually unnecessary.

This is not the first time I heard or seen this from them. So I avoid it.

We do a lot of Amazon purchasing. I'm sure we've had an issue or two, but it's been so rare that I can't remember them, but then I'm careful about what I buy. I don't buy just anything on Amazon. When/if i purchase from a "sold by" that I'm not confident about on Amazon, it's generally a last resort, cheap, and something that I'm willing to write off if there's a problem because of #1 and #2.
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Originally Posted by GG Allin (Post 10647236)
I recently bought a Walbo 255 fuel pump on Amazon that I'm fairly certain is not genuine. The car would not run past 4000 rpm with it installed. Put stock pump back in and the car ran fine.

Did you look at who it was "sold by" and check out their ratings?
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Originally Posted by stevej37 (Post 10647354)
Not sure about counterfeit...but I know quite often my Amazon purchases have been used/returned items. Packages stapled or taped where they shouldn't be...ok with me, as long as it works.

Last year, I purchased a new De Marchi cycling jacket from Amazon. One day after using it, I found a house key with Italian writing on, in a small chest pocket on the jacket. Must be genuine!

Wow, that's kind of cool. I have seen some reviews that mentioned receiving used stuff, but I don't think we've had that problem that I can remember.

group911@aol.co 11-05-2019 09:41 AM

Ever see someone that's had plastic surgery? Big boobs? Admit it. They're not bad looking.
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Originally Posted by sc_rufctr (Post 10646627)
"Most non Chinese brand names shipped from China are counterfeit".

When I first read this statement I was sceptical but it's actually true.
India is not as bad as China but they are fast catching up. High end speaker cables seem to be the latest thing.

Have you seen the latest fake Rolex watches? (All Chinese made)

God only knows why anybody would wear something like this. I don't care how good it looks it's fake so why B.S. yourself?

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JackDidley 11-05-2019 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by GG Allin (Post 10647236)
I recently bought a Walbo 255 fuel pump on Amazon that I'm fairly certain is not genuine. The car would not run past 4000 rpm with it installed. Put stock pump back in and the car ran fine.

I have heard other people with the same complaint. A true Walbro 255 will deliver way more fuel than a typical stock pump. I used one in a 350 motor running 85% ethanol for 3 years, no problem.

sammyg2 11-05-2019 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Bob Kontak (Post 10646701)
Has anybody bought walk-up from McMaster-Carr 's distribution centers? They are less than an hour away NE of Akron. Suppose I could call them. One person I chatted with said it's more a B2B type operation.


I've never walked up and asked for something, but I've will-called items to be picked up in an hour at least 25 times at the distribution center in Santa Fe Springs ca.

stinkindiesel 11-05-2019 10:54 AM

One of the big problems I see with Amazon reviews is that some people are reviewing the vendor and some the product. Anything sold under a given listing is supposed to be the exact same product, but we know that ain't so.

When I buy from Amazon, I'll only buy when it's sold by Amazon. Life's too short to worry about saving a few pennies and ending up with crap. I know Amazon's return policy is pretty generous, but it's still a hassle.

Gary

masraum 11-05-2019 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by stinkindiesel (Post 10647464)
One of the big problems I see with Amazon reviews is that some people are reviewing the vendor and some the product. Anything sold under a given listing is supposed to be the exact same product, but we know that ain't so.

When I buy from Amazon, I'll only buy when it's sold by Amazon. Life's too short to worry about saving a few pennies and ending up with crap. I know Amazon's return policy is pretty generous, but it's still a hassle.

Gary

Exactly, it sounds like some folks think of Amazon as if it were a single store/vendor, but it's not. It's like going to a mall or flea market. You've got one building with 10,000 vendors in it (and the folks that own the building have a stall too). If you buy from the folks that own the building, you're good to go. If you look for folks that are long time sellers or are legitimate with integrity, then you're fine. If you buy from one of these guys....

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sc_rufctr 11-05-2019 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by group911@aol.co (Post 10647387)
Ever see someone that's had plastic surgery? Big boobs? Admit it. They're not bad looking.

I have yet to see a pair of fake bOObs that look good. They're just so obvious so I don't see the attraction.
Plastic surgery is fine and can often improve a persons life especially after an accident or illness so no issues there.

Fake watches are something else entirely. If you can't afford the real thing then why wear a fake?
Even if everybody thinks it's real I can't see the point of wearing something you know is fake.

If you want a Rolex, save up and buy second hand and if you buy the right one it will never lose value.

masraum 11-05-2019 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by sc_rufctr (Post 10647721)
I have yet to see a pair of fake bOObs that look good. They're just so obvious so I don't see the attraction.
Plastic surgery is fine and can often improve a persons life especially after an accident or illness so no issues there.

Fake watches are something else entirely. If you can't afford the real thing then why wear a fake?
Even if everybody thinks it's real I can't see the point of wearing something you know is fake.

If you want a Rolex, save up and buy second hand and if you buy the right one it will never lose value.

I've seen fake boobs that look real (the exception rather than the rule) and real boobs that are so full and perky that they look fake. The keys points (hah) are to 1, not go too big and 2 have enough of your own boob over the implant so it isn't obvious (think of it as boob camouflage or maybe a boob blind).

I'm not a fan of fake boobs, by the way. They usually fill out a shirt, but unleash them and they are usually not attractive. And the possible changes as they've been in a while (scar tissue) and the possible health implications make them muy undesirable.

group911@aol.co 11-05-2019 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by sc_rufctr (Post 10647721)
I have yet to see a pair of fake bOObs that look good. They're just so obvious so I don't see the attraction.
Plastic surgery is fine and can often improve a persons life especially after an accident or illness so no issues there.

Fake watches are something else entirely. If you can't afford the real thing then why wear a fake?
Even if everybody thinks it's real I can't see the point of wearing something you know is fake.

If you want a Rolex, save up and buy second hand and if you buy the right one it will never lose value.

Hair color, fake boobs and fine and fake watches. They're all the same.
It's all about looking attractive to someone you're trying to impress. Nothing wrong with it.
You'd have a lot of trouble telling the real thing from the A-quality fake ones on somebody walking down the street.

sc_rufctr 11-05-2019 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by group911@aol.co (Post 10647812)
Hair color, fake boobs and fine and fake watches. They're all the same.
It's all about looking attractive to someone you're trying to impress. Nothing wrong with it.
You'd have a lot of trouble telling the real thing from the A-quality fake ones on somebody walking down the street.

That's true but the owner will always know it's fake.

wdfifteen 11-05-2019 06:14 PM

We buy often from Amazon, we probably get 3 or 4 deliveries a week. It’s an hour drive to the nearest town with decent shopping options. We don’t have time for it, especially for even slightly obscure items (like Semolina flour). I don’t buy anything that doesn’t have at least 10 reviews. You gotta read the reviews. I was looking for some Hella headlights and found some at about 1/2 the going price. Reading the reviews I found out they were for right hand drive cars!
I wish there was a good alternative, I don’t particularly like supporting Amazon.

Vin-barrett 11-06-2019 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Shaun @ Tru6 (Post 10646587)
Anyone buy anything not kosher on Amazon?
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I bought a pair of Timberland Pro steel toe workboots that looked so damn real but just didn't feel right somehow. The soles fell apart on both of them within days of each other in about a month. Really good fakes, i got taken.
Replaced with what look exactly like the same model off the shoe truck at work for much more $. Much better, not the same boots.

Tobra 11-06-2019 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by group911@aol.co (Post 10647387)
Ever see someone that's had plastic surgery? Big boobs? Admit it. They're not bad looking.

Maybe with their clothes on, even then, not usually the case.

I try to buy stuff locally, because I want to continue being able to buy stuff locally.

group911@aol.co 11-06-2019 12:55 PM

I'm knocking. Just like watches, it's tough to tell from a few feet and they still operate properly.
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Originally Posted by Tobra (Post 10648795)
Maybe with their clothes on, even then, not usually the case.

I try to buy stuff locally, because I want to continue being able to buy stuff locally.


greglepore 11-06-2019 01:00 PM

Its becoming a problem that Jeff should pay attention to. I've had it happen with a number of things lately. Birkenstock was so pissed they stopped selling to Amazon, so Amazon began to buy from retailers to resell.

They claim they can't police it. Eventually the public is going to revolt.


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