Whatever their "secret to success" is, it is working. The only time you see the parking not full of cars in on Sundays or after they close for the night. They are doing a lot of things right. You have to admire that success.

Yes, and I acknowledged the fact that you provided a real answer with a real solution a page or two back. You must have missed that.

Exactly. And, as such, would appear to be the perfect "solution".

Agreed on all counts. I think all of us would rather deal with a real person - it's how humans are wired.

You raise an interesting point - doing business in places where thugs would make up the vast majority of this minimum wage workforce. How many of us really do that? I think most of us tend to do all of our retail shopping in "nice" neighborhoods, typically close to home. We might run across town, or even drive to another town for some sort of specific item, but how many businesses that folks like us would do business with are actually in "sketchy" neighborhoods?

As far as fast food joints, I won't eat at them under any circumstances. But, if, say, I were on the road and just had to, I think I would keep driving rather than stop at one in one of "those" neighborhoods. I think most of us would.

What I'm getting at with all of this is that I kind of think that these situations are kind of "mutually supportive". I.e., the customer base is no different than the employee base. Stupid, otherwise unemployable minimum wage thugs serving stupid, equally unemployable thugs for customers.

In this particular case, it's obvious that the woman was no saint. No Einstein. I would go so far as to say that while she didn't deserve all of what she got, I just can't feel sorry for her. What I see as the real crime here is that some poor business owner is going to wind up losing a lot of money over two moronic thug's inability to resolve their disputes in the civilized manner in which the rest of us learned to do it.

Business owners have insurance.

For Comparison:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/11/12/new-jersey-country-club-sues-waiter-after-wine-spills-hermes-kelly-handbag/

I made 3X minimum wage in 84-85 working at a French restaurant. Started washing dishes in 83 and slowly moved up to finally be the garde manger (cold food chef). Worked 40 hour weeks during 11th and 12th grade of high school to do it. Loved it. But only could have done it because of the work ethic instilled me since a small child... got my own sledge hammer and wedge for my 7th birthday, we heated with wood.

The problem that most fast food employees face is a lack quality parenting which is why they are stuck in the cycle of poverty. With good parenting, fast food jobs would be fun stepping stones for 16 to 22 year olds who then move on and up in life.

The video is just a page in the chapter of poor and absentee parenting in the poverty cycle.

... got my own sledge hammer and wedge for my 7th birthday...

You think that it is a career, rather than an entry level job for someone without marketable skills?

I have never worked in the food industry at any level. I have eaten in a lot of restaurants, from total dives to very exclusive and expensive. I have had way more competent to great experiences at restaurants and several very poor experiences. I never ever once came even close to having a fight of any sort. That is just outside of any thought process I have.

As a kid before I had a car and any way to have a real job I mowed yards for money, but I sure knew it was not my future. I wanted a real job.

My dad gave me an interest free loan to buy any car I could afford, and one he approved of. I paid 100% of every expense, except the insurance. Every single job I have had starting when I was 16 has been in the photography industry.

I credit my parents with instilling in me a simple way of thinking. If I want to make money and buy nice things, WORK hard, and smart, and stand out in the crowd with my work ethic.

I have never received a penny of government money except tax refunds, and that is a tiny portion of the huge amounts of taxes I pay.

What do you think your life would be like if you didn't even have a dad let alone one that could loan you money for a car? A mom that worked two jobs to make ends meet. Not really enough money for good food and even if there was, you lived in what has recently been coined a food desert. Neighbors yelling at all hours of the day, shootings on the street a regular thing, school teachers who really couldn't give a fuch.

Most of us can credit our parents for how we turned out. So can the a-hole worker who body slammed the woman at Popeyes.

A slightly different take but along the same lines. Most people are average. Truly average. It's the rare and very special person who can rise out the ashes of any kind of cycle their family has been in for generations.

It is not that rare Shaun, I know a lot of people like that. I must just run with the wrong crowd

It gets better.

A new Popeye store got an order for 100 Spivey chicken sammies. One kid set up an extra set up station on top of trash can lids.

Either on Fox or AOL news feeds.

Compare the location of Chick-Fil A stores to Popeye's stores. Big difference in hiring pools.

Around here it is mostly high school kids. Though one fast food place here hires those that look like exactly the people you don't want working there. Thing is, they are the most polite people to deal with, where the Burger King in the same town is always filthy and the workers spend more time cussing at each other than anything else.

Every one of those things could be fixed with a BFH.
I've got some basic ideas.

Any further explanation would have to be answered in parf.

Umm, I worked in a Mexican Restaurant when in my 20's and a big group of very drunk rugby guys came in. Darn,they were placed at one of my tables :eek: The were throwing food at each other and ripping up the menus to make hats. One of them said something like "What ya gonna do about it." I just said "Nice hat. You guys going to have another round of drinks?"

They just wolfed down some cheap Mexican food, topped up their blood/alcohol levels and moved onto, probably, a strip club.

All's well that ends well.

A job is a job. It's employment, not an economic caste system. Not everyone has the aptitude, education, luck, connections, or intelligence to be a rocket surgeon. I imagine a good percentage of the people on this board were born on 3rd base but think they hit a triple.

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LOL, And that sounds about right!

Almost every job app that I've ever had to fill out includes a question about whether you've ever been convicted. It's been a while, but I think it's usually "have you ever been convicted of a felony", but it may just be "ever been convicted of a crime".

Also, it's my understanding that they can't ask you or the company that you worked for why you left (fired, quit, laid off, etc...). If they call the other company, the only thing that they'll get is "yes, so-and-so was an employee from date X to date Y." At least that's my understanding of the way things work around here.

Sure, I had great parents. But most of the stuff they told me before I got my working papers was theory only. I got to see it for real and up close and personal once I started working in restaurants. Sure, most of us were high school kids, working in the summer for extra money. But there were also those who were 10-15 years older, supporting the kids they had as teenagers and having to pay rent, car insurance and other adult expenses. My folks told me all about that stuff the whole time I was growing up, but seeing it firsthand was a much better lesson.