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Deschodt 08-13-2020 01:01 PM

News from Barcelona:
- Perez passed his test so he's back
- FIA will forbid engine "party mode" - essentially there will be one mode for qualy and same for race, no more boosting it for Q3. That looks directly aimed at Mercedes... Ferrari laughed out loud, it's not gonna make a difference for them, there's no party at Ferrari ;-) This could start (Well, stop) as soon as the belgian GP.

astrochex 08-13-2020 05:00 PM

I wonder how they are going to police that?

nota 08-14-2020 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by astrochex (Post 10984692)
I wonder how they are going to police that?

they use a common CPU supplied by mac
the FIA can see the settings in real time to know the modes used

astrochex 08-14-2020 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by nota (Post 10985208)
they use a common CPU supplied by mac
the FIA can see the settings in real time to know the modes used

So the FIA has the same access to engine parameters and control as the teams do?

rfuerst911sc 08-14-2020 08:11 AM

Grojean 5th fastest in FP2 where did that come from ??? Magnuson back in 16th . Vettel only 12th with the new chassis while his teammate was 6th I think . The black cars still in a different zip code 😁

Deschodt 08-14-2020 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by rfuerst911sc (Post 10985259)
Grojean 5th fastest in FP2 where did that come from ??? Magnuson back in 16th . Vettel only 12th with the new chassis while his teammate was 6th I think . The black cars still in a different zip code 😁

Maybe low fuel ? He's not a **** driver actually, has shown speed before.. In terms of where did that come from, may I present Maldonado winning in Spain? That was the mother of "where did that come from" ;-)

GH85Carrera 08-14-2020 03:35 PM

F1 2020 Thread
 
Wow, watching the free practice 1 in Spain and listing to the announcers. They mentioned on average the brake pedal required 120 Kilo or 264 pounds of force to stop at the right pace. All done with the front of the foot so leg, ankle and toes.

Try that next time you are at the gym.

And not just once, but corner after corner for the weekend. Wow.

Captain Ahab Jr 08-14-2020 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GH85Carrera (Post 10985779)
Wow, watching the free practice 1 in Spain and listing to the announcers. They mentioned on average the brake pedal required 120 Kilo or 264 pounds of force to stop at the right pace. All tone with the front of the foot so leg, ankle and toes.

Try that next time you are at the gym.

And not just once, but corner after corner for the weekend. Wow.

5G under braking, that's a lot of stopping force

Was told just lifting off the gas in an F1 car it brakes harder than any road car because of aero drag alone

David 08-14-2020 06:14 PM

This may have already been posted but it’s a good story of a normal person driving a modern F1 car including the brake for needed:

https://youtu.be/BE7mgfwd6M8

javadog 08-15-2020 04:23 AM

The really tricky part about braking in an F1 car, or any car with substantial down force, is that you have to progressively release pedal pressure as the speed goes down. It’s not simply a case of standing on the pedal, like in a street car.

Zeke 08-15-2020 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by javadog (Post 10986180)
The really tricky part about braking in an F1 car, or any car with substantial down force, is that you have to progressively release pedal pressure as the speed goes down. It’s not simply a case of standing on the pedal, like in a street car.

Sounds to me like breaking for a fairly slow corner from full song is at best a 2 second affair. You'd do good to brake near 100% and modulate towards the end of the 2 second period. More like relieving the pressure on your kidney for a few milliseconds before you crush same kidney while accelerating away from the corner.

And that's lying down. I try to think of where the blood in my brain would be during all of this. Clearly this is not for anyone short of the ability to fly fighter jets. Race car drivers do their gymnastics on a relatively flat plane compared to the multi directional forces of high performance flight. They just don't have to strain their groin to push a brake pedal.

javadog 08-15-2020 07:04 AM

I think piloting an F1 car would be much more difficult than flying a fighter jet.

The thing about downforce is that it’s relative to the square of the speed. That means the release of pressure on the brakes is not linear and, as you rightly pointed out, it’s compressed into a really small timeframe.

rfuerst911sc 08-15-2020 07:26 AM

Today's qualifying was not very exciting but it is what it is . What happened to Grojean's pace ? I hope qualifying at Indy later today is better .

Zeke 08-15-2020 07:30 AM

It would be interesting to get a pilot and driver together to compare experience. I realize it would be much easier to put an F1 driver in an FA 18 Hornet's co pilot seat than it would be to do the opposite. One thing for sure is the commonality of G-forces. Interesting also is the fact that although an F1 car creates tremendous downforce, the driver feels none of it. Only acceleration in 2 axis (with the occasional elevation change and subsequent forces). The fighter pilot doesn't get too much lateral force, his 2 axis are fore and aft and up and down.

I think they's each be a bit disorientated at first.

ted 08-15-2020 08:49 AM

My ESPN did not record Qualifying this morning?
so here are the highlights.
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/t8t4lbw6pBE" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

DaveE 08-16-2020 06:53 AM

Well, at least Max and Bottas weren’t lapped...

astrochex 08-16-2020 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by DaveE (Post 10987463)
Well, at least Max and Bottas weren’t lapped...

Not really a spoiler is it?

DaveE 08-16-2020 09:58 AM

Anyone tuning into this thread on raceday without watching the race is begging for a spoiler, yes?

astrochex 08-16-2020 10:45 AM

My post was more of a comment on the sharp end of F1 than a complaint about spoilers.

petrolhead611 08-16-2020 02:12 PM

I doubt that an F1 driver would be braking for as long as 2 seconds into a corner. That's a loooong time in an F1 car


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