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Captain Ahab Jr 01-08-2020 01:16 PM

F1 2020 Thread
 
Someone had to do it ;)

astrochex 01-08-2020 02:02 PM

But no predictions?!

I predict Ferrari will get within 30 points of Mercedes for another 2nd place in the manufacturer’s championship.

cairns 01-08-2020 03:26 PM

I think Red Bull will be second. Just saying.....

....maybe cause I got my tickets to Zandvoort yesterday......

URY914 01-08-2020 03:32 PM

I predict I won't be watching very many races this year.

herr_oberst 01-08-2020 03:54 PM

Max re-signed with Red Bull.

So, there's that...

legion 01-08-2020 05:55 PM

I predict Williams will be last place.

I predict Force India/Racing Point/The Only Reason Lance Stroll is in F1 will be right in front of them.

McLaren will get a podium.

Ferrari will look unbeatable in winter testing. Then will be surprisingly slow at the first race. Suddenly, they will win races in Europe and appear unbeatable. Someone will launch a complaint about their engine technology violating the rules. They will be surprisingly slow after the summer break.

stealthn 01-08-2020 09:18 PM

Thanks Captain.

I predict Ferrari will be caught cheating.

And Lance Stroll will podium :p

WPOZZZ 01-08-2020 11:09 PM

Will Hanoi be finished in time?

rfuerst911sc 01-09-2020 02:50 AM

If Renault can get their act together and McLaren continues to improve next year could be interesting . Red Bull will be strong with two great drivers and Ferrari will hopefully get their act together . Can they catch Benz only time will tell .

I am hopeful that Alpha/Haas/Red Bull's junior team can all step up and be consistently better . Force India or whatever they are now called could be a sleeper but they only have one good driver .

GH85Carrera 01-09-2020 04:59 AM

I predict Haas will be unchanged with two not great drivers making lots of errors.

nota 01-09-2020 08:15 AM

question is not if M-B cheats but if they will be caught

rusnak 01-09-2020 01:28 PM

Question:

Who has done a better job in 2019, Binotto or Seidl?

Both men seem to have gotten all the monkeys back in their cages, and it may be another half season before a fair comparison can be made. But can you make a case for either guy doing a better job, and why?

Who will do a better job in 2020?

Captain Ahab Jr 01-09-2020 02:23 PM

I predict....

Hamilton will be drivers champion again
Leclerc or Verstappen will be runner up
RBR will make 2nd place for either Ferrari or Mercedes very difficult for them
McLaren will beat Renault again
Haas will be sold
Williams won't be sold
Honda will have the 2nd best engine
Williams and Latifi will finish last
Kimi will have done the most F1 races of any driver but still not as many as me :cool:

Jeff Higgins 01-09-2020 03:22 PM

With no improvement in tires and no real changes in the aero package, this will simply be 2019.2. Another season of horribly boring "racing" wherein drivers cannot follow one another close enough or long enough to set up for an overtaking move before their tires go off and the car overheats.

legion 01-09-2020 05:40 PM

It'll be a hell of a lot of fun to look back at this page in a year if all of us turn out to be way wrong...

Jeff Higgins 01-10-2020 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by legion (Post 10714407)
It'll be a hell of a lot of fun to look back at this page in a year if all of us turn out to be way wrong...

Believe me, I would dearly love to be proven wrong.

Zeke does bring up the one (and a very significant) motivating factor for the teams to put some effort into 2020 - the payouts based on position in the championship. That will certainly serve to buoy their efforts.

They are, however, still significantly hamstrung by the tires and the aero package. Try as they might to actually "race", physics are rather inviolable. The teams will face the same limitations they dealt with in 2019. No one is going to find, at this late date in the rules cycle, some "magic" solution that overcomes any of this. And if they do, the FIA will slam that door on them immediately. We won't see a breakout of the caliber of the Braun Racing / Jenson Button championship year. While I would love to see it, I see 2020 as more or less a "placeholder". Maybe some shuffling in the "best of the rest", but certainly not among the top teams.

SiberianDVM 01-10-2020 11:25 AM

No predictions, but I hope there are a lot of wet races.

Neilk 01-10-2020 11:53 AM

If Ferrari can up their strategy and not do anything dumb, and Max keeps it clean, they could nip and Mercedes' heals. It could be an exciting season.

legion 01-10-2020 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neilk (Post 10715204)
If Ferrari can up their strategy and not do anything dumb, and Max keeps it clean, they could nip and Mercedes' heals. It could be an exciting season.

That's been Mercedes real strength, not losing races.

Won 01-11-2020 07:59 AM

https://f1i.com/news/365649-symonds-admits-aero-rule-changes-for-2019-was-wrong-move.html

rfuerst911sc 01-11-2020 11:06 AM

Does anyone know if the fires in Australia will affect the opening round of F1 ? It is just a tragic situation they have there :(

yellowperil 01-11-2020 11:24 AM

Old news, I know but
 
I still feel Vettel should have won the Canadian GP, and Herta should have won Laguna Seca. IMO

Every time I see a replay I get more sure both outcomes were in error.

Just my opinion

I not looking to start trouble, but if I could fix it I would.

BXR12NT 01-12-2020 02:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rfuerst911sc (Post 10716164)
Does anyone know if the fires in Australia will affect the opening round of F1 ? It is just a tragic situation they have there :(



I shouldn’t think so, the fires are at least 200 km from Melbourne


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astrochex 01-12-2020 06:00 AM

Ferrari will have a better chance if Vettel minimizes his mistakes.

Rtrorkt 01-13-2020 11:12 AM

https://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/51090812

let's revisit this in August

Deschodt 01-15-2020 08:19 AM

Roy Nissany appointed as official Williams test driver. In other words: "Man who scored one point from 20 races in F2 in 2018 joins team that scored one point from 21 races in F1 in 2019" ;-)

I used to really like Williams, and while I hope they do better this year, I would be very surprised. Pay drivers, pay test drivers, no money, no parts...

Jeff Higgins 01-15-2020 06:17 PM

Williams are done. Put a fork in them. F1 today is, unfortunately, all about money. Metric schitt tonnes of money. That simply rules Williams out. It used to be that clever, intuitive innovation could carry the day. Those days are gone. Things are so developed, so locked down into infinitesimally tiny gains wrought through untold hours of engineering development, modeling, and testing that smaller, less funded teams like Williams are just going to die. They had their glory days, back when one clever idea could put a team ahead for awhile. Those days are long gone.

stuttgart46 01-16-2020 06:40 AM

I predict the commentary will exist of more talk about the new car for 2021 and less talk about the current season because we all know how it's going to end.
Vettel may have a nervous breakdown along the way. Hope he's been meeting with a motivational speaker during the off season.

Rtrorkt 01-22-2020 07:29 AM

https://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/51201068

for those that remember, looks like Ceasar's Palace II

nota 01-22-2020 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rtrorkt (Post 10727815)
https://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/51201068

for those that remember, looks like Ceasar's Palace II

yes the track sucks
but at least it is here in my home area
lets hope they improve the track and keep the location

astrochex 01-29-2020 02:53 AM

Potential bombshell (credit Autosport forum),
Quote:

The board of Mercedes‘ parent company Daimler will meet in two weeks’ time to decide whether to withdraw its team from Formula 1 at the end of the 2020 season.

RaceFans, in a joint investigation with Autocar, has learned the meeting will take place on February 12th. Mercedes’ current contract to participate in F1 expires at the end of this season.
https://www.racefans.net/2020/01/29/mercedes-crunch-meeting-quit-f1-2020/

Please stay, Mercedes, F1 needs your unequalled level of professionalism and innovation.

GH85Carrera 01-29-2020 05:24 AM

As much as I hate to see Mercedes win so much, they are the CLEAR class of the F1 show. No other team can finish so many races, and even if they don't win, they score points. They put on a clinic for the other teams on how to do a race, and race to win.

Much like Porsche did in Endurance racing over so many series.

I remember when Mercedes first got back into F1 there were the back of the field. The board was thinking of withdrawing because they were spending millions and getting nothing. They they started winning. And winning and winning.

oldE 01-31-2020 02:34 AM

Guess who is going to be carrying the Aston Martin name in the future!

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-51323241

Aston Martin: F1 billionaire owner leads rescue deal

3 hours ago
89 comments


Struggling luxury UK carmaker Aston Martin has announced plans to raise emergency funding worth £500m.

A consortium led by billionaire Lawrence Stroll will put in £182m, with the rest of the money coming from existing investors.

Mr Stroll partly owns the Racing Point Formula 1 team, which will be branded Aston Martin from 2021 under the deal.

The move comes hours after a board meeting held to discuss how to prop up the ailing firm.

Aston Martin's best known customer is fictional spy James Bond and the company recently revealed that four of its cars will feature in the next Bond movie, No Time To Die.
Image copyright Reuters
Image caption Lawrence Stroll partly owns the Racing Point Formula 1 team

The carmaker said its latest financial moves were aimed at strengthening its balance sheet after its "disappointing performance" in 2019.

Mr Stroll's consortium will take a 20% stake in the company and he will become its executive chairman.

As a result, Penny Hughes will be stepping down as Aston Martin's chairman once the deal is completed.

She said: "The difficult trading performance in 2019 resulted in severe pressure on liquidity which has left the company with no alternative but to seek substantial additional equity financing.

"Without this, the balance sheet is not robust enough to support the operations of the group.

"Notwithstanding recent weak trading, the strength of the Aston Martin brand and our expanding portfolio of cars has allowed us to attract a strong new partner in Mr Stroll to support the turnaround of the business."
Image copyright Reuters
Image caption Four Aston Martins will feature in the next Bond movie, No Time To Die

Earlier this month, the 106-year-old firm issued a profit warning, saying annual earnings were expected to fall by nearly half from a year earlier.

It said core retail sales - which covers sales from Aston Martin dealers to consumers - were up 12% from a year earlier. However, wholesale volumes - which covers how many cars the dealers are ordering from Aston Martin itself - were down 7% to 5,809.

The company said it was expecting earnings of between £130m and £140m, well below the £247.3m it reported last year.

Best
Les

rfuerst911sc 01-31-2020 06:10 AM

Starting in 2021 the Force India/Racing Point team will be called Aston Martin racing . Makes sense with the cash outlay Stroll is investing .

CurtEgerer 01-31-2020 09:15 AM

Looks like Lance is another stepping stone closer to a Ferrari drive. Daddy just needs to wait for Ferrari to fall on hard times. :cool:

GH85Carrera 01-31-2020 11:35 AM

It must be cool to be that rich.

Deschodt 01-31-2020 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GH85Carrera (Post 10737565)
It must be cool to be that rich.

On the flip side, if you were that rich, would you work this hard and risk your life to drive an F1 car? I probably would choose a life of leisure in Monaco instead. Credit to him for that, and the talent to make a podium once. Hulkenberg is well regarded and never managed it.

Not at all a Stroll fan, just trying to be fair. He's no Pedro Diniz.

Captain Ahab Jr 01-31-2020 03:59 PM

One of my favourite car projects was working on Lance's F3 car and helping him win the 2016 F3 Championship. F3 is an extremely tightly regulated championship which didn't have many loop holes in the rules to exploit so made it very difficult to improve car performance.

I'd just got back from Italy, was at home relaxing building a wall with Mrs Ahab and an ex-Ferrari F1 friend called me, asked me if I want to help him at Williams with a car project but he couldn't tell me what it was, of course I said yes :confused:.

Williams waited for me to finish my wall and when I rocked up on my 1st day I was shown Lance's new car in the workshop, told we only have 6 months until the 1st race, here is the tech rule book, see what weight you can take out of it and ways we can make it faster, I was a like a piggy in $hit :)

We helped Lance and his Italian based team Prema Powerteam (a very successful F3 team). It was a long 30 race championship and the team scored ....
22 pole positions (14 for Lance)
19 fastest laps (13 to Lance)
20 wins (14 to Lance)

Lance won with 507 points (his team mate was 2nd with 320) earning him a super license which allowed him to race for Williams in F1. At the time it was the most important project for Williams as a company

I still have twinges of guilt as with the help of his dad's millions we utterly destroyed the F3 championship which prevented a few far more talented but slightly less wealthy driver's their chance of reaching F1 by winning a talent biased championship

I don't however feel guilty about upsetting a few other billionaire dad's because their little boy's didn't win or contributing to the FIA having to rewrite the rules to keep the F3 championship alive

Personally I think Lance is good but not F1 world champion good!

Jordan Force Point Aston India Martin or whatever it's called is a team going places, exciting times for everyone there, Lance fans (I'm more a Kimi fan ;)), Canadian fans and F1 too

astrochex 01-31-2020 05:03 PM

^(Typically) amazing story!

Ah, Jordan, they were the first team I really followed in F1. Joined the fan club and everything.

VincentVega 01-31-2020 06:56 PM

Yeah, I'm fumbling for a response. Thanks for sharing, its one of the reasons I'm here.

I'm really looking forward to seeing Zandvoort.


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