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ramonesfreak 02-19-2020 05:59 AM

Making beef jerky - worth it?
 
I travel a lot for work so I’m always stopping at some farm market where I grab some locally made beef jerky. Sometimes it’s great. Sometimes it’s horrible. It’s always expensive.


I remember making it in Boy Scouts. Doesn’t seem hard but like anything you cook, all the ingredients and time add up.

Is the end result worth the effort and expense? I imagine there is some satisfaction in perfecting it so that it’s exactly how you want it

Yorkie 02-19-2020 06:05 AM

I think it’s worth making your own - if not for the cost saving then for the satisfaction. My young son and I made up a wooden cabinet with air holes and a rack as a kind of shop class exercise. I installed a computer fan and a 10W light bulb and I can now make up Jerky and Biltong ( South African style meat). Just like bread making, the anticipation is fun and you get to mess around with different species and marinades.

The alternative is to hang small pieces of meat off the racks in your oven at super low temperature with the door slightly open to promote air flow. Takes a few hours but way quicker than the 3-4 days it takes to make Biltong.

GH85Carrera 02-19-2020 06:10 AM

Oh man bummer, it was a typo. I would love to try to beer jerky.

I only eat jerky on my road trips as "road food" to avoid stopping for a regular meal.

ramonesfreak 02-19-2020 06:19 AM

Uh oh. I’ll try to fix that

craigster59 02-19-2020 07:28 AM

I make my own jerky and everybody raves about it. I usually do a bunch at Christmas and give it away, this year I did 24 lbs. The guys at work eat the stuff like popcorn and are always on my ass to make some more.

I have sent some to some Pelicans, I think Seahawk, Targa911S, Vash and maybe a few others have tried it. Haven't heard that it gave them the shytes or any adverse effects so that's good news!

I'm actually eating some now....

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craigster59 02-19-2020 07:42 AM

Here's my recipe. I double it to make 8 lbs because that fills up my dehydrator.

4 lbs round steak (I buy at the Mexican market, it's thin sliced for beef Milanesa)
1 cup Soy sauce
1 cup Worcestershire sauce
4 tbsp onion powder
1 1/3 tsp garlic powder
1 1/3 tsp black pepper
1/2 packet Good Seasons Italian dressing mix
1/2 small can chipotle chiles in adobo

Mix in a blender, pour over sliced meat and marinate for 24 hours.

You can dry in a low oven (150-175 degrees) for 8 hours or a dehydrator.
This is the one I have...

https://www.amazon.com/Excalibur-3926TB-Dehydrator-Temperature-Dehydration/dp/B008OV4FD0/ref=sr_1_19?keywords=food+dehydrator&qid=158213051 1&sr=8-19

craigster59 02-19-2020 07:43 AM

PM me your address and I'll send you some so you can figure out if it's worth your time.

BTW, 8 lbs wet jerky costs me around $50 to make all in and when dried makes around 3 lbs. Around here farm stands sell it for about $20 for a 1/4 lb.

stomachmonkey 02-19-2020 07:56 AM

Yes it's worth it and simple to do.

I use my ovens warming tray.

Some tips, to get nice thin slices cut while partially frozen, you don't want the meat rock hard, just enough where you can still slice through but it holds it's shape.

I blot excess marinade before the dehydration step, you want it going in on the dry side, not sopping wet.

Trim the fat, it's what goes rancid.

You can make a dehydrator with some high watt lightbulbs, a cardboard box with racks in it and a box fan for ventilation.

That way you are not in for a lot to give it a try and can upgrade your kit if you intend to keep making it yourself.

billybek 02-19-2020 08:20 AM

When the market has a sale on the beef cut for Rouladen, I buy a bunch and make some jerky with that.
Easy lean and about the right thickness and size without me having to do more cutting and trimming.
I have used some kits and used the Big Green Egg indirect with a small amount of lump charcoal indirect heat.

Turns out pretty good. Vacuum pack and put in the freezer.

The kits usually have some pink salt in the mix for the curing process.

stomachmonkey 02-19-2020 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by billybek (Post 10757620)
....Rouladen....

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aigel 02-19-2020 10:08 AM

Totally worth it because you will be able to control the ingredients. Store bought stuff will have a lot of sugar, may have MSG and other crap you don't need. You can cut out the sugar completely aside from what's in Worcestershire.

I make it from wild game and it is always a hit. Food dehydrator.

G

stomachmonkey 02-19-2020 10:24 AM

Ifn' ya wur in Texass you could just pop in at your local Bucee's and git ya some tasty morsels.

$29.99 per lb.

I tend to grab a couple of pounds whenever I stop in .

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flipper35 02-19-2020 10:33 AM

We have made it in the dehydrator, the oven method and on the smoker set real low. Venison is great since it is lean meat. Even if you buy the meat it is usually less expensive than the store bought stuff, which isn't all that great. Other than landjaeger. Those are great, but we don't make those yet.

stealthn 02-19-2020 01:52 PM

Tried it twice last summer in the smoker, first batch too dry, second batch not enough flavour. I will try some more this spring, the smoker is a fun science experiment I must say

cabmandone 02-19-2020 03:31 PM

I used to make my own venison jerky but found a processing place with a recipe I liked so much I stopped making my own. I used a dehydrator like the one linked below. Just put the meat in a bag with marinade then dehydrate. There are some really good store bought jerky seasoning mixes out there.

https://www.homedepot.com/canvas/pep/Elite-Gourmet-Gourmet-5-Tray-Food-Dehydrator-EFD-1010/308710273?mtc=Shopping-BA-F_HDH-G-D29B-29_28_SMALL_ELECTRICS-MULTI-NA-Feed-PLA-NA-NA-Mixers_Slicers&cm_mmc=Shopping-BA-F_HDH-G-D29B-29_28_SMALL_ELECTRICS-MULTI-NA-Feed-PLA-NA-NA-Mixers_Slicers-71700000048833954-58700005310601551-92700047118403805&gclid=CjwKCAiA1rPyBRAREiwA1UIy8D eTqiL9CWJlPYhnkSkwOfqwT-ZeLhj9oH8Dg0f6kN-NDCjyFUOwaBoCfR4QAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

masraum 02-19-2020 03:56 PM

I've had lots of home-made jerky. Most of it has been very good, but I have had a few that weren't that good.

Honestly, jerky is like sex and pizza, the worst I ever had was still pretty good.

ramonesfreak 02-19-2020 04:19 PM

Awesome info thanks guys

ramonesfreak 02-19-2020 04:25 PM

Thanks for that offer but I wouldn’t trouble you to send it. What I’ll do is make some based on your recipe once I get a dehydrator which will be in a week or so. I was gonna use the oven but I need a dehydrator anyway for my chili pepper addiction.....tired of stringing them up in the window


Your jerky looks damn good. I’m sure it’s amazing

I think $50 for 3lbs sounds like a great deal


Quote:

Originally Posted by craigster59 (Post 10757594)
PM me your address and I'll send you some so you can figure out if it's worth your time.

BTW, 8 lbs wet jerky costs me around $50 to make all in and when dried makes around 3 lbs. Around here farm stands sell it for about $20 for a 1/4 lb.


wdfifteen 02-19-2020 04:27 PM

It's worth it if you enjoy a challenge and doing something creative. It's probably cheaper to buy it though.

ramonesfreak 02-19-2020 04:30 PM

Thanks for the partially frozen tip. I likely would have froze them solid and then gotten frustrated.




Quote:

Originally Posted by stomachmonkey (Post 10757608)
Yes it's worth it and simple to do.

I use my ovens warming tray.

Some tips, to get nice thin slices cut while partially frozen, you don't want the meat rock hard, just enough where you can still slice through but it holds it's shape.

I blot excess marinade before the dehydration step, you want it going in on the dry side, not sopping wet.

Trim the fat, it's what goes rancid.

You can make a dehydrator with some high watt lightbulbs, a cardboard box with racks in it and a box fan for ventilation.

That way you are not in for a lot to give it a try and can upgrade your kit if you intend to keep making it yourself.


Tobra 02-19-2020 05:25 PM

I have a patient that makes it in a smoker.

I have given him a bunch of cherry and peach that I ran through a wood chipper. I gave him a couple trash bags full and he thought it was a bunch of branches he would have to cut up. He was pretty happy when he looked in the bags and figured out how much work I saved him.

Pretty fantastic stuff that he produces, better than anything I have ever purchased, WAY better.

craigster59 02-19-2020 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ramonesfreak (Post 10758107)
Thanks for that offer but I wouldn’t trouble you to send it. What I’ll do is make some based on your recipe once I get a dehydrator which will be in a week or so. I was gonna use the oven but I need a dehydrator anyway for my chili pepper addiction.....tired of stringing them up in the window


Your jerky looks damn good. I’m sure it’s amazing

I think $50 for 3lbs sounds like a great deal

Your loss is another Pelican's gain! :D

First Pelican who PM's their address gets some good jerky, ah what the heck, the first two.

slodave 02-19-2020 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by craigster59 (Post 10758337)
Your loss is another Pelican's gain! :D

First Pelican who PM's their address gets some good jerky, ah what the heck, the first two.

Mahogany Smoked Meats out of Bishop is bar far the best I’ve ever had. Just picked up a pound today in fact. 😊

WPOZZZ 02-19-2020 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by masraum (Post 10758077)

Honestly, jerky is like sex and pizza, the worst I ever had was still pretty good.

Finished in a few minutes?

flipper35 02-20-2020 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tobra (Post 10758161)
I have a patient that makes it in a smoker.

I have given him a bunch of cherry and peach that I ran through a wood chipper. I gave him a couple trash bags full and he thought it was a bunch of branches he would have to cut up. He was pretty happy when he looked in the bags and figured out how much work I saved him.

Pretty fantastic stuff that he produces, better than anything I have ever purchased, WAY better.

Of the three methods we tried we like the smoker the best. Thought the first batch got a little warm and we ended up with meat crackers. :eek:

Live and learn.

drcoastline 02-20-2020 03:45 PM

I make my own every few weeks. Simple recipe and tastes great. 1 cup Soy Sauce and 2 or 3 tblsp liquid smoke that's it. The majority of the flavor comes from the smoke you can ad or subtract based on taste. I prefer hickory but have used mesquite. I have tried various spices in the past including A1, Whatsthisheresauce, various jerky and meat rubs, etc. But I prefer a good steak with just a little salt and pepper and the flavor of a good char from the grill so I keep it simple. I slice about 1/4" thick pieces, place in a zip lock bag pour in soy/smoke and marinate overnight sometimes longer. I dehydrate in my oven on convection lowest heat setting to desired dryness. Usually three-ish hours. My wife likes a little heat so after dried I sometimes will sprinkle powdered black or red pepper on.

Edit: I have also found all soy's are not equal. Stay away from Kikkoman, La Choy, etc. I have found a good low sodium naturally brewed Japanese soy for sushi to work best. They are mild in flavor. Tamari brand is pretty good and available in most super markets.

WPOZZZ 02-21-2020 04:07 AM

Damn you guys! Now I'm going to have to try this in my air fryer. Supposedly, I can make it in 1 - 2 hours!

masraum 02-21-2020 04:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WPOZZZ (Post 10759623)
Damn you guys! Now I'm going to have to try this in my air fryer. Supposedly, I can make it in 1 - 2 hours!

Hopefully, the air fryer has a low temp setting. Jerky is dried meat, not cooked and dried.

WPOZZZ 02-21-2020 04:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by masraum (Post 10759634)
Hopefully, the air fryer has a low temp setting. Jerky is dried meat, not cooked and dried.

160-180 degrees is what's needed. Mine goes down to 150.

jyl 02-21-2020 06:12 AM

My jerky recipe

Flank or skirt steak
Partly freeze
Slice 1/8” across the grain
In bowl, mix teriyaki sauce, bbq sauce, worchestershire, black vinegar, soy sauce, sugar, garlic, green onions, etc - do it to taste, I like a sort of korean BBQ flavor
place sliced meat in a gallon ziplock, pour in the marinade from the bowl, seal bag, knead with fingers until meat well coated
place in fridge for 24 hr, re-knead a couple times
place meat in dehydrator, leave it well coated with marinade, no heat, for about 16 hours
you want the marinade to be a savory-sweet crust on the meat, and the meat to be firm but not leathery like store bought jerky
this jerky will keep several months at room temp, but it’s usually gone in weeks - super delish

Steve F 02-21-2020 06:19 AM

^^^^^^^^^^^


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stealthn 02-21-2020 02:05 PM

Thick or thin teriyaki sauce?

WPOZZZ 02-22-2020 02:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drcoastline (Post 10759291)
I make my own every few weeks. Simple recipe and tastes great. 1 cup Soy Sauce and 2 or 3 tblsp liquid smoke that's it. The majority of the flavor comes from the smoke you can ad or subtract based on taste. I prefer hickory but have used mesquite. I have tried various spices in the past including A1, Whatsthisheresauce, various jerky and meat rubs, etc. But I prefer a good steak with just a little salt and pepper and the flavor of a good char from the grill so I keep it simple. I slice about 1/4" thick pieces, place in a zip lock bag pour in soy/smoke and marinate overnight sometimes longer. I dehydrate in my oven on convection lowest heat setting to desired dryness. Usually three-ish hours. My wife likes a little heat so after dried I sometimes will sprinkle powdered black or red pepper on.

Edit: I have also found all soy's are not equal. Stay away from Kikkoman, La Choy, etc. I have found a good low sodium naturally brewed Japanese soy for sushi to work best. They are mild in flavor. Tamari brand is pretty good and available in most super markets.

I have a batch sitting in your mixture for tomorrow. Tonight, I made a batch with no marinade for the dog. She was very happy! Ran the air fryer at 180 degrees for 90 minutes. The outside was nice and brown, while the inside was grey meat colored. Meat was sliced to 1/4" and after 90 minutes, it was about 1/8".

drcoastline 02-22-2020 02:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WPOZZZ (Post 10760597)
I have a batch sitting in your mixture for tomorrow. Tonight, I made a batch with no marinade for the dog. She was very happy! Ran the air fryer at 180 degrees for 90 minutes. The outside was nice and brown, while the inside was grey meat colored. Meat was sliced to 1/4" and after 90 minutes, it was about 1/8".

Hey Bryan,

Good luck and I hope you enjoy? Its intended to taste like beef that was lightly salted and dried in a smoker. Of course alter the recipe to your liking. Add or subtract soy, liquid smoke or add other flavors if you prefer.

Donovan

WPOZZZ 02-22-2020 02:59 AM

I used 1/2 cup of soy and 2 tbsp of liquid smoke. It is marinating and I'll make it in the afternoon. Beef jerky is always good, and I know what is in it, so I can give it to my dog. She needs to eat whatever I'm eating.

jyl 02-22-2020 04:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stealthn (Post 10760310)
Thick or thin teriyaki sauce?

doesn’t matter. or Yoshida Sauce (a local product in OR!)

Jandrews 02-22-2020 04:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by craigster59 (Post 10758337)
Your loss is another Pelican's gain! :D

First Pelican who PM's their address gets some good jerky, ah what the heck, the first two.

PM Sent! Looks amazing!

JA

craigster59 02-22-2020 06:46 AM

Masraum and Jandrews have jerky coming their way.

jyl, that marinade sounds good although I'm not a fan of sweet jerky. I do have some Bulgogi marinade, maybe I'll try that on a small batch next time to see how it goes.

sixbanger 02-22-2020 10:18 AM

I make it on my WSM 22 in smoker. I use London broil. I find that you have to really watch it so it doesn't dry out too much.

WPOZZZ 02-22-2020 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WPOZZZ (Post 10760607)
I used 1/2 cup of soy and 2 tbsp of liquid smoke. It is marinating and I'll make it in the afternoon. Beef jerky is always good, and I know what is in it, so I can give it to my dog. She needs to eat whatever I'm eating.

It came out really salty. I need to either cut the soy in half or marinate it for a shorter amount of time..


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