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I cannot believe this,
What we're they thinking, where's the barriers, real barriers, not wheel chocks and a net.
I've been on a few car ferries and I can't believe they would allow this setup (pic)http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1582235058.jpg |
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I read a bit but couldn't get any more information on the cause... Was the car in neutral? Was it in Drive and someone stepped on the gas? I know it's a 7min ride so I assume people stay in their cars, but are they supposed to be shut off and in Park + e-brake/handbrake?
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Wait, you mean we're seeing an empty spot where there was a car and now there's a lame submarine?
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agree..
but one should know how to swim also.. especially if your up front.. windows down / seat belt of.. Rika |
I read that she didn't put the car in park, it rolled, she panicked and hit the gas instead of the brake.
When they found them they were embracing each other. More here: https://www.foxnews.com/us/women-mercedes-submerged-florida-ferry-embrace |
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/02/20/florida-ferry-deaths-car-rolls-off-killing-women/4817369002/
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Terrible tragedy then, but could've been prevented. Put it in Park at least, and better yet, turn off the engine, remove the key (forces Park in newer cars), and pull the hand brake/press the e-brake...
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This was two women, one late 60’s, one 75. It can happen. Terrible tragedy.
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Could it be they did this on purpose? Terrible tragedy for their families either way.
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Incompetence.
Lawsuits to follow. |
No chocks in the picture. Gotta wonder if the attendants checked the lead cars before shoving off.
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"...thin netting is strung across the edge of the ferry to prevent cars from falling..."
Yeah, that'll work. |
I've been on multiple ferries where wheel chocks (but only for those up front / in back) and a cable are the norm...
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Driver was to stupid to live
Ferry operators should know such drivers exist and act accordingly |
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The best of us can have a distracted moment that ends in irritation or at worst, some sort of grievous harm. |
no , i disagree.
you get on the boat they tell you to put it in park P Even if you forget that crucial bit. Even if they forgot to tell you If you can't tell the difference between that big old brake pedal and the gas pedal in an automatic. It's probably better you drive off a boat then plow into a gas station as so often happens with old people who can't drive well no more. You don't see those kind of accidents with Manuals.. It's really a unique problem with automatics, because it allows people to drive who other wise wouldn't ave been able to. If you are to stupid to realize that you have reaction time of a boiled carrot, and cannot respond to a VERY simple problem in a car, that requires you to do a VERY simple action. then that's a problem for everybody And distracted, well i'm sure there are plenty of dead pedestrians cyclists and innocent people dead because of distracted drivers, it's no different from a bad DIY. if you get in a car, pay attention to what you are doing. |
Thelma and Louise
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Doubt it. Just a simple mistake by two ladies out for a nice day. We’ve all made dumb mistakes. But no one deserves this.
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I've been on multiple ferry rides in WA state and they chock the lead cars. All regular riders know the drill. Engine off, in park, e-brake on. Maybe with this short ride their procedures are different. Jeff may be on to something. Sorry for their families.
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I've been on the Fisher Island ferry, the only way to get your car on that thing is to be a multi-millionare resident of the island, or a guest, and guests have to be screened. I almost got bumped because my last name was misspelled on the intake form.
The only way on or off the island is by that ferry, any any resident would know what to do. Hell, they WASH the cars as they get off so there's no sea spray stuck on their Bentleys. The cars are essentially loaded by hand with attendants. What I'm saying is, they probably don't care about things like chocks and nets because everyone involved is kinda an expert at it. Either her car broke, or she pulled it out of park while grabbing her purse, or she had an "incident" and didn't get it properly loaded. |
Some awful and shameful comment here. Not surprised.
Very sad these ladies had to die this way regardless of fault. |
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People who operate motor vehicles should be expected to operate them in a reasonably competent manner. But no amount of chocks, guard rails, or other means can completely fix stupid. PS I find no shame in being honest. |
Was thinking that the divers that recovered the bodies would look to see what position the gear was ever was in?
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Whoever posted the "too stupid to live" crap really need to take a step back and examine their emotional intelligence. |
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How many lawyers were injured trying to get to the accident scene?
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At least these ladies didn't take anyone else with them. On our ferries here in Washington, there are often people standing at the ends of the car deck enjoying the view out over the water.
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Am I reading this correctly? The car was running and in gear?
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I've driven onto lots of ferries in the US and Europe. That's one activity where I follow instructions to the letter, pay attention to the folks in the yellow vests and don't get distracted until everything is extra secure and done moving. Heavy, moving objects and deep water make for an unforgiving environment.
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Hmmm. Newer Mercedes?
I bet it had start / stop technology. She pulled on. Stepped on the brake, the engine stopped and presumably shut off the engine. I imagine the car put on the brakes. She either took her foot off the brake or stepped on the gas and it fired up and drove off the boat, just like it would have if she was pulling away from a traffic light that turned green. A wheel chock or net wouldn’t have prevented this. |
The Coast Guard is investigating how the car fell from the ferry, but sources familiar with the investigation told the Herald they believe Afra forgot to put the car in park and hit the gas pedal by accident when it began to roll, accelerating through a barrier and into the water.
The ferry was underway and her car was still running? I find that highly unlikely. According to the linked story she must have left it in Drive and hit the gas when it rolled. OK I get that! Yet the other cars are facing the rear of the ferry? Was her car also facing the rear of the ferry? And if it was why was it in Drive after being Reversed onto the boat? Did she put it in Drive instead of Park? |
Peter, the ferry is a double ender. You drive straight on one end and drive off the other. The pilot can operate the boat in either direction.
We have similar craft but because of the extreme tides in the Bay of Fundy the vessels have big ramps on either end. You aren't driving up those. I'm guessing the theory of 'start -stop' technology may have contributed. Either way, the vehicle was in gear and the brake was not applied. Some mistakes you don't get to say "Sorry "for. Best Les |
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The better news is that they'll probably change things for the better. |
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