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Baz 03-14-2020 01:19 PM

Flag discussion
 
I have a flag pole in my front yard with a solar powered LED ring on top that lights the flags up at night.

I say flags (plural) because I have the US flag above a MIA/POW flag.

Mine have now become tattered and I was looking at replacements.

Looks like polyester and nylon are the most durable so that's what I will choose for material.

What do you guys think about getting the Betsy Ross flag this time around?

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon....AC_SL1136_.jpg

I don't consider myself some kind of revolutionary but I am very patriotic. Would this flag somehow be considered disrespectful to other patriots? I know that sounds like a dumb question but would really be interested in some opinions here.

Thanks!

stevej37 03-14-2020 01:31 PM

As long as it's a historical flag of the US...no reason why anyone should be upset.
I like it...not often seen.

Sooner or later 03-14-2020 01:32 PM

Perfectly acceptable.

Any flag that was at one time considered a flag of the US is still considered as a living flag. Treat it the same as the current flag.

astrochex 03-14-2020 01:34 PM

I like it. It should remind people of the origins of our great country.

Tobra 03-14-2020 01:38 PM

It does not seem racist to me, but I am not mentally ill, or not that mentally ill, so maybe I am the wrong person to ask. I like it

Wasn't there a thing with sneakers that had that flag on them that made people lose their schiff?

wdfifteen 03-14-2020 01:40 PM

I'm not sure I understand. Do you intend to display instead of the US flag?

stevej37 03-14-2020 01:40 PM

^^^ Don't tread on me?

Baz 03-14-2020 01:50 PM

Wow...thanks for the fast responses!

I went ahead and ordered new flags. All Made in the USA.

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon....MkLJL._AC_.jpg

It's funny to read the comments on whether or not the flag is made in the USA or not. It's really a pretty big deal to a lot of people.

I buy so much stuff that I need for my household normally I don't put a lot of thought into where the stuff comes to. But I'll be DAMNED if I'm flying a US flag on my property that IS NOT made by American workers. That is certainly where I draw the freaking line.

I purchase both standard and Betsy Ross flags plus a POW/MIA one and....a whole new flagpole that will be a little taller than the current one I have.

Will post photos this week when they are flying.....

Baz 03-14-2020 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wdfifteen (Post 10784159)
I'm not sure I understand. Do you intend to display instead of the US flag?

Yes - that was the intent, Patrick.

stevej37 03-14-2020 01:52 PM

Looking forward to pics.

rfuerst911sc 03-14-2020 02:13 PM

Baz good for you on insisting on flying a US flag made in the US . I do the same . I also fly a smaller flag for fallen police officers . Looking forward to pic's .

flatbutt 03-14-2020 03:09 PM

The only thing I can think of that may raise an eyebrow is if you flew the 13 above the 50...maybe.

Shaun @ Tru6 03-14-2020 03:17 PM

I'm pretty sure you can only fly the Betsy Ross flag is you are in one of the original 13 colonies Baz.

Baz 03-14-2020 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rfuerst911sc (Post 10784196)
Baz good for you on insisting on flying a US flag made in the US . I do the same . I also fly a smaller flag for fallen police officers . Looking forward to pic's .

Thanks, Rick. I saw one on the website that had some kind of 'thin blue line' design - maybe that was it (?)


Quote:

Originally Posted by flatbutt (Post 10784253)
The only thing I can think of that may raise an eyebrow is if you flew the 13 above the 50...maybe.

I wouldn't do that but thanks for the comment FB.


Quote:

Originally Posted by stevej37 (Post 10784171)
Looking forward to pics.

Thanks Steve - happy to oblige! :D


Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaun @ Tru6 (Post 10784262)
I'm pretty sure you can only fly the Betsy Ross flag if you are in one of the original 13 colonies Baz.

Are you serious, Shaun? That's doesn't make any sense.

If anyone screws with me I'll run this sucker up:

https://www.ausyflags.com.au/wp-cont...g-kangaroo.png

Heck....I might just do it anyway.....:p

rfuerst911sc 03-14-2020 05:34 PM

Yes on the thin blue lines .

look 171 03-14-2020 05:53 PM

I think its great, but today, no matter what you do, someone will twist things out of context and find it offensive. They need to turn off some of their offensive reflexes off. Yep, love to sees some pics.

cassisrot 03-14-2020 06:22 PM

In honor of Kapernick I flew Betsy and Gonzalez when I moved into to the neighborhood my new Texas friends loved it as they were a little concerned that we might have been odd Colorado commies moving to Texas. I’d post a pic but apple has totally confused me. Go to carrot top to see a Gonzalez if you aren’t familiar with “come and take its”.

flatbutt 03-14-2020 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sooner or later (Post 10784148)
Perfectly acceptable.

Any flag that was at one time considered a flag of the US is still considered as a living flag. Treat it the same as the current flag.

yup
"Official United States flags are always considered living, active flags. From the Betsy Ross flag to the present 50-star flag, any flag that at some time was the official flag is still considered a living flag to be accorded all due respect."

Bill Douglas 03-14-2020 06:34 PM

I googled American flag for southern states and it came up with this one.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1584236050.jpg

wdfifteen 03-14-2020 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baz (Post 10784170)
Yes - that was the intent, Patrick.

What’s wrong with the current US flag?

Alan A 03-14-2020 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevej37 (Post 10784147)
As long as it's a historical flag of the US...no reason why anyone should be upset.
I like it...not often seen.

We have one. Next to the regular one.

Tobra 03-14-2020 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wdfifteen (Post 10784491)
What’s wrong with the current US flag?

What makes you think there is something wrong with it?

wdfifteen 03-15-2020 12:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tobra (Post 10784529)
What makes you think there is something wrong with it?

He is choosing not to fly the official flag of the United States some reason.

Porsche-O-Phile 03-15-2020 01:41 AM

I think the “thin blue line” (and red line, and yellow line, and similar variations) are technically violations of the US Flag Code, well-meaning though they may be...

“The flag should never have placed on it, or attached to it, any mark, insignia, letter, word, number, figure, or drawing of any kind...”

sc_rufctr 03-15-2020 02:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baz (Post 10784409)
...

If anyone screws with me I'll run this sucker up:

https://www.ausyflags.com.au/wp-cont...g-kangaroo.png

Heck....I might just do it anyway.....:p

Back in the 80s there were a group of anti British idiots that wanted this to become the Australian flag!
They also wanted to ditch the Queen and become a republic. :rolleyes:

Tobra 03-15-2020 05:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wdfifteen (Post 10784708)
He is choosing not to fly the official flag of the United States some reason.

He is choosing to fly an historic iteration. A bit presumptuous of you to imply he thinks there is something wrong with the current one. What do you think is wrong with the current one?

Baz 03-15-2020 06:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wdfifteen (Post 10784491)
What’s wrong with the current US flag?

Quote:

Originally Posted by wdfifteen (Post 10784708)
He is choosing not to fly the official flag of the United States some reason.

From the OP:

Mine have now become tattered and I was looking at replacements.

wdfifteen 03-15-2020 06:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tobra (Post 10784785)
He is choosing to fly an historic iteration. A bit presumptuous of you to imply he thinks there is something wrong with the current one. What do you think is wrong with the current one?

I think the current US flag is the official flag of the United States. It's our flag, there is nothing wrong with it in my opinion and I'm curious why anyone would want to fly some other flag instead. Hence, my question.

rfuerst911sc 03-15-2020 06:37 AM

The 13 star flag is part of our history , I see no reason why it can't be flown proudly . I don't think there is ANY under lying intent other than to replace tattered old flags . Lighten up folks it's not a nazi flag or a communist flag it's a historical US flag .

Sooner or later 03-15-2020 06:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wdfifteen (Post 10784807)
I think the current US flag is the official flag of the United States. It's our flag, there is nothing wrong with it in my opinion and I'm curious why anyone would want to fly some other flag instead. Hence, my question.

From Flag Code

Official United States flags are always considered living, active flags. From the Betsy Ross flag to the present 50-star flag, any flag that at some time was the official flag is still considered a living flag to be accorded all due respect.

GH85Carrera 03-15-2020 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaun @ Tru6 (Post 10784262)
I'm pretty sure you can only fly the Betsy Ross flag is you are in one of the original 13 colonies Baz.

Pretty sure you are 100% wrong. Again.

ossiblue 03-15-2020 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Porsche-O-Phile (Post 10784721)
I think the “thin blue line” (and red line, and yellow line, and similar variations) are technically violations of the US Flag Code, well-meaning though they may be...

“The flag should never have placed on it, or attached to it, any mark, insignia, letter, word, number, figure, or drawing of any kind...”

The versions I've seen of those flags are not red, white, and blue so, technically, they are not the official symbol referenced by the code. That's my take, anyway.

Alfasrule 03-15-2020 08:36 AM

The Night shines with a 1000 stars for the world to see
The same Stars that grace the American Flag, the symbol that we are free

Upon the back drop of the purest blue those stars seem to glisten and shine
Praised by the Love of so many people and the blessings of the divine

Those Red and White stripes hold special meaning of dedication and purity, because many shed Blood for the Ultimate reason
That no one bows to Tyranny.

And in that Flag that waves so proudly are the lives sacrificed for the cause defending
the concept of human freedom challenged in so many wars

Our heroes rest inside of history of stories yet untold
Let us pledge allegiance to it a History yet to unfold.

wdfifteen 03-15-2020 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tobra (Post 10784785)
A bit presumptuous of you to imply he thinks there is something wrong with the current one.

That presumption is completely in your head. I asked a fairly simple question and you heaped your own implications onto it. I just ask why he chose the 13 star flag vs the current flag. I have no idea why you got your panties in a wad over that.

DanielDudley 03-15-2020 10:09 AM

I put one up on the wall of my Dad's barn in Massachusetts, and I particularly like to see them flown on the fourth of July. FWIW, people who grew up in one of the original Colonies will always lay claim to that flag. It is pretty natural, and a pride of place thing.

Fly it anyway.

Shaun @ Tru6 03-15-2020 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gh85carrera (Post 10784919)
pretty sure you are 100% wrong. Again.

lol! what are you, my girlfriend now? :D

wdfifteen 03-15-2020 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sooner or later (Post 10784834)
From Flag Code
Official United States flags are always considered living, active flags. From the Betsy Ross flag to the present 50-star flag, any flag that at some time was the official flag is still considered a living flag to be accorded all due respect.

I did not know that. The next time I need to re-flag the pole I'm going with the flag I was born under - 48 stars!

svandamme 03-15-2020 02:54 PM

apparently some will say that flag is offensive because it's the flag of a time when slavery was common

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As a Belgian I just find it funny that people can get upset over a flag, or even that a flag code exists.... most of the world get's confused at a Belgian flag and asks us why we put the German flag vertical ..

stevej37 03-15-2020 03:16 PM

Bought this 3X5 flag in the early 70's as a souvenir when visiting there.
I still have it...it's never flown.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...nswick.svg.png

island911 03-15-2020 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wdfifteen (Post 10784491)
What’s wrong with the current US flag?

It was in the OP; his " become tattered."

A little throw-back to the founding flag. Kind of cool.

No doubt someone, somewhere will find a way to be . . .drumroll . . . offended. GASP!


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