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Rtrorkt 03-18-2020 08:34 AM

so what do we think of this shooting brake?
 
https://www.thedrive.com/news/32553/engineering-students-transform-porsche-boxster-into-shooting-brake-of-our-dreams

herr_oberst 03-18-2020 08:38 AM

Full disclosure. I'm not the audience for this thing.

They managed to create a honda out of a Porsche. Unfortunate choice of color. Other than that.....

URY914 03-18-2020 08:38 AM

Reminds me of what Volvo did years ago. I like it.

Shaun @ Tru6 03-18-2020 08:49 AM

I think it looks great!

sammyg2 03-18-2020 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by herr_oberst (Post 10788870)
Full disclosure. I'm not the audience for this thing.

They managed to create a honda out of a Porsche. Unfortunate choice of color. Other than that.....

Same here, they answered a question I didn't and wouldn't ask.
Pass.

DonDavis 03-18-2020 08:53 AM

Me like. Hells yeah!!

pwd72s 03-18-2020 08:55 AM

Kinda awkward for a mid engine car...other than that? Not 'zactly awe inspiring, not 'zactly ugly. Kind of a "Meh?" machine.

Nickshu 03-18-2020 08:57 AM

I like it. Would be better if they did it with a GT4.

Dantilla 03-18-2020 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by herr_oberst (Post 10788870)
Unfortunate choice of color.

At least it's not Silver!
I am so done with neutral colors. Sit at a stop light, and there is a sea of white, silver, charcoal grey, or that horribly bland "champagne", yada yada...
It's as if you're looking at a black & white photo.

With all the wonderful colors on this planet, I can't imagine ever picking a grey car to drive.

masraum 03-18-2020 09:02 AM

Here's another thread with about 40 posts for the same thing. There is very little love in that thread.
I'd really like to see pictures inside the car. The outside looks decent.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/off-topic-discussions/1045450-porsche-boxster-shooting-brake-yes-no.html

What I want to know is what, if any, perceived benefit there is. I can't imagine that there's much carrying capacity.

wdfifteen 03-18-2020 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by masraum (Post 10788916)
What I want to know is what, if any, perceived benefit there is.

My thoughts exactly. It looks OK. Looks like a hatchback to me. A shooting brake is a woody station wagon rotting away in England, isn't it?

masraum 03-18-2020 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by wdfifteen (Post 10788922)
My thoughts exactly. It looks OK. Looks like a hatchback to me. A shooting brake is a woody station wagon rotting away in England, isn't it?

This is an interesting differentiation from someone on Reddit for estate/wagon, shootingbrake and hatchback.
https://www.reddit.com/r/cars/comments/9akm5b/whats_the_difference_between_a_hatchback_a/
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A hatchback is a vehicle where instead of having a trunk, the interior continues behind the rear seats as more cargo space, and the entire rear opens up as a hatch. If the angle of the hatch is quite low (30° or less), it may be referred to as a liftback, but the function is pretty much the same. The hatchback config was first introduced (IIRC) on the Renault 16, and soon spread to many other economy and family cars in the EU market. The 1971 Vega was the first US hatchback, but the config didn't become widespread until the VW Rabbit (our name for the Mk1 Golf) was introduced. Hatchbacks can come in 3- or 5-door variants (the rear hatch is counted as a door for some reason), though 3-doors are not as popular now as they were in the '80s.

A wagon (or sometimes estate in the EU) extends the greenhouse of a sedan farther back, over the rear wheels and trunk area to form more cargo and/or passenger space. Before the advent of minivans in the mid-'80s, large station wagons were the most common family haulers in the US. Modern wagons are purely 4-doors, but until the late '60s for American cars and late '70s for some Japanese compacts, there were also 2-door wagons that used the longer doors of the coupe or 2-door sedan models (yes, there is a difference between a coupe and a 2-door sedan).

Modern wagons tend to be quite sloped in the rear, but the easiest way to distinguish a sloped wagon from a hatchback is by how long it is. A wagon will be about the same length as the sedan version or slightly longer; a hatchback will never be longer than the sedan and is usually shorter.

Shooting-brake refers to a 2-door sports car that has had its greenhouse extended like a wagon so it can have more luggage room, but passenger space is still the same (either a 2-seater or a 2+2). It's important to note that a shooting-brake is not quite the same as a 2-door wagon or 3-door hatch. The shooting-brake always started out as a 2-door sports car, but a hatchback need not have started out as a coupe. The emphasis of a shooting-brake is also on performance, rather than space efficiency like a hatch or wagon. Whether it's possible to make a 4-door shooting brake or if such a vehicle would automatically turn into a "4-door sports wagon" is a debate I won't take a position on.

Fastback is a regular sedan or coupe that has a long, sloping roofline and a short trunklid--but not any kind of hatch. On most modern fastbackss, the rear window is sloped with the roof, but on many fastbacks of the '60s, the sloped look was achieved only by the side "sail panels" so that the trunklid could still be decently sized.

The fastback is contrasted with notchback, which is more upright and has a longer trunklid. Fastback rooflines were popular in the late '60s and early '70s on many American cars, but the more formal and spacious notchback came back with a vengeance in the late '70s and into much of the '80s for many American cars. The '90s aerodynamic trend moved cars back to a bulbous, curvy fastback look, and now with so much emphasis on MPG, most sedans have such a sloped fastback roof that it impedes on their rear headroom, and makes it harder to access the trunk through such a tiny mail slot of a lid. We probably won't see a return to spacious notchback sedans now with the popularity of CUVs.

"Sportback" is largely a marketing term. Audi uses it to refer to their wagons, and Mitsubishi used it at one time to refer to the hatchback version of the Lancer. Why invent a new term? Because in the US, "wagon" conjures images of your grandpa's bloated Buick Roadmaster with wood vinyl siding, and "hatchback" brings to mind dowdy econoboxes from the '80s.

Another term which might be helpful to know is Kammback. It's not a specific config, but rather a styling feature. It's when the rear of the car has a sloping fastback or hatchback, but it ends very abruptly like it was cut off. The feature helps minimize drag, which is why it's commonly seen on hybrid cars.

HardDrive 03-18-2020 09:19 AM

Its cool, but the fact that the engine is in the middle kind of defeats the purpose of the hatch back.

Adrian Thompson 03-18-2020 09:22 AM

I love it, but I said that in the other thread. But I like/love hatchbacks and Wagons. My other cars are an 08 Volvo C30 hatch and a V60 Polestar wagon plus my Boxster. The only downside is I would never give up a drop top, hence a Boxster not a Cayman.

Rtrorkt 03-18-2020 10:30 AM

interesting comments. The idea that you can graft a 997 front end on this car apparently without much modification and fundamentally change the look is interesting. Seems Porsche has been about adaptability from the start. The fact that an '86 3.2 fits in the back of my 69 912 shows Porsche's focus on change. This shooting brake for me is an off shoot of the adaptable idea. I remember loving the Volvo 1800ES that is somewhat the same idea.

As for color, I like the choice. Agree with one comment earlier about the dumbing down of colors. Grey, biege, grey/biege, silver, etc all boring. This color is at least controversial. Take an $8k used Boxster and turn it into that seems like an interesting idea

DaveE 03-18-2020 11:37 AM

That should make it even more fun to work on!

Jim Richards 03-18-2020 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dantilla (Post 10788913)
At least it's not Silver!
I am so done with neutral colors. Sit at a stop light, and there is a sea of white, silver, charcoal grey, or that horribly bland "champagne", yada yada...
It's as if you're looking at a black & white photo.

With all the wonderful colors on this planet, I can't imagine ever picking a grey car to drive.

Aubergine FTW. :cool:



Conda Green would work, too.

Jeff Alton 03-19-2020 10:56 PM

I like it....

Cheers

gtc 03-20-2020 10:25 AM

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I actually think it looks good. A 981 version would be ok by me.


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