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widebody911 03-18-2020 06:32 PM

Cat ID question
 
There's a cat that's been hanging around for the past several months, and of course we've been feeding him. There's someone on Nextdoor that thinks it's theirs, except they live about 3 miles or so away. I haven't taken him down to see if he's chipped yet. but the other party sent me a pic.

I would love to see him go back to his rightful owner, but I'm also leery of someone just wanting a nice free cat.

Are these the same cat?

Mystery cat
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1584584777.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1584584829.jpg

"Our" cat.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1584584854.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1584584854.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1584584854.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1584585078.jpg

Por_sha911 03-18-2020 06:37 PM

The dark ears and light body looks like it has a mix of chocolate point Siamese in it.

MBAtarga 03-18-2020 06:38 PM

I'm not a cat person, but that looks like the same cat to me.

Porsche-O-Phile 03-18-2020 07:49 PM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1584589633.jpg
SuperKitty!!!

stomachmonkey 03-18-2020 08:02 PM

Same cat or siblings / litter mates but i'm leaning more to same cat.

With that mix it's kinda tough.

Their coats can change dramatically as they age.

The spot between the ears on "your cat" is darker than the same spot on "their cat".

Depending on when they took their pic, 3 months + ago, and your pic, seems like a natural progression.

Could just be lighting and the camera that took the pics but that dark spot on the back below the shoulder blades is very distinct.

I say same cat.

pwd72s 03-18-2020 08:14 PM

I tend to agree..looks same cat to me? Did the other people say theirs was chipped? If so, that would settle it.

I posted here some months back about one that showed here wounded. Took him to the vet to get a wound treated. Yep, chipped. Owner delighted to get him back. Cats can roam pretty far...this one came from 6 miles away.

stomachmonkey 03-18-2020 08:48 PM

Natasha and her brother Thor as kittens.

Tash
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1584593010.jpg

Thor
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1584593010.jpg

The Floofs
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1584593010.jpg

Today, she has changed drastically
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1584593085.jpg

Him, less
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1584593085.jpg

sc_rufctr 03-19-2020 12:35 AM

Focus on the forehead of the cats in the two sets of photos in the OP. Not the same cat IMO.

widebody911 03-19-2020 04:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sc_rufctr (Post 10790000)
Focus on the forehead of the cats in the two sets of photos in the OP. Not the same cat IMO.

That's what I was picking up on, and that fact that "ours" is very cross-eyed.

rusnak 03-19-2020 04:36 AM

Other than eye shape, looks like the same cat to me.

I would say more than likely, it's the same cat.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1584621367.jpg

UconnTim97 03-19-2020 06:01 AM

It's difficult to tell from the pictures, but does your cat have a possible infection in the one eye? That could cause the difference in pics of a healthy cat's face.

Seahawk 03-19-2020 06:06 AM

Tough to tell. Is the cat anxious or more intense than your normal house cat? Every stray that we returned was oddly anxious.

Does your area have a Facebook page in addition to Nextdoor?

We have returned at least 3 cats and two dogs based on "missing" posts in FB. FWIW, "Free Cats" in my area aren't exactly Unicorn's ;)

stomachmonkey 03-19-2020 06:19 AM

Three miles away is nothing for a cat.

One of my best friends neighbors cat had a habit of climbing into cars and taking a nap.

You quickly learned to roll your windows up when visiting to avoid unnecessary trips to bring that stupid cat home.

Eye shape means nothing from one pic to the next.

Cats eyes are very expressive, I can tell what mood mine are in by their eyes.

The markings match, there are no glaring differences

The slight variation comes from natural change over time.

Do we even know how old “their” pics are?

We could be looking at 6 months which is plenty of time for slight changes in the markings.

Baz 03-19-2020 06:25 AM

Yeah - back in the early 90's when I was living in Naples my Kinger disappeared. I put an ad in the classifieds lost and found - and then got a call. He turned up clear across town! Got real lucky. He must have jumped into the back of someone's p/u truck.

sammyg2 03-19-2020 06:34 AM

They all look alike ;)

ossiblue 03-19-2020 07:07 AM

I tried to find differences between the two that could not be accounted for due to lighting or the pose of the cat. I looked closely at the foreheads and thought I noticed a difference in the striping of the center marking, but it could easily be accounted for by the different poses. The mystery cat is on the bead with arms extended, head down which can push the forehead fur closer together. The lost cat is shown with head up, so any "squishing" together of the fur/skin is gone.

Regarding the cross eyes. The photo of the lost cat on top of the car, under the metal overhang, shows a very distinct cross-eyed look, IMO.

I think they are the same cat.

masraum 03-19-2020 07:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by widebody911 (Post 10789832)
There's a cat that's been hanging around for the past several months, and of course we've been feeding him. There's someone on Nextdoor that thinks it's theirs, except they live about 3 miles or so away. I haven't taken him down to see if he's chipped yet. but the other party sent me a pic.

I would love to see him go back to his rightful owner, but I'm also leery of someone just wanting a nice free cat.

Are these the same cat?

Mystery cat
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1584584829.jpg

"Our" cat.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1584584854.jpg

faces and feet/legs are super similar to me, but that's easy to do, but to me the real key is the dark spot over the shoulders which is to me a more unusual marking.

The color variation between your shots and theirs is probably down to different digital camera manufacturers' default settings. The pic of the cat presumably sitting on top of a car under a carport roof was taken with a "Camera Model {0x0110} = Pixel 3 XL"

masraum 03-19-2020 07:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sammyg2 (Post 10790243)
They all look alike ;)

? All pink on the inside?

stomachmonkey 03-19-2020 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by masraum (Post 10790282)
....the real key is the dark spot over the shoulders which is to me a more unusual marking...

Agree, it's a fairly unique marker.

It'd be a hell of a coincidence to have a stray cat and one that was lost only 3 miles away share that mark, even if they were litter mates.

billybek 03-19-2020 09:49 AM

Maybe you could throw a couple of GIFs in of the cat to slow down the thread a little....

;) :D

stomachmonkey 03-19-2020 09:50 AM

As far as the eye shape I give you the many faces of Thor.

He's not very bright, at all, but he is handsome.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1584640178.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1584640178.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1584640178.jpg

MBAtarga 03-19-2020 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billybek (Post 10790496)
Maybe you could throw a couple of GIFs in of the cat to slow down the thread a little....

;) :D

LOL! How true! :D

908/930 03-19-2020 11:50 AM

I think it is the same cat, looks like a Siamese/Rag doll, great looking kitty. Still worth the time checking for microchip.

masraum 03-19-2020 12:04 PM

I also think the markings between the ears, just outside of the eyes (like eye-liner that goes out and down) and down from the inside corners of the eyes and then curves around under the eyes is also a pretty good match.

widebody911 03-19-2020 12:48 PM

I called a couple of vets, but due to coronavirus restrictions, they won't letr me bbring him in to g´t scanned.

I can buy a scanner for $90 or so on Amazon; with the number of strays that come through here, it might be worth it

stomachmonkey 03-19-2020 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by widebody911 (Post 10790715)
I called a couple of vets, but due to coronavirus restrictions, they won't letr me bbring him in to g´t scanned.

I can buy a scanner for $90 or so on Amazon; with the number of strays that come through here, it might be worth it

My vet lets me borrow one.

Willing to bet one of your local crazy cat lady rescue groups has one.

The group I volunteer for has acquired a couple recently.

Pazuzu 03-19-2020 01:44 PM

Your car is a dead ringer for Miss Nell:
https://www.instagram.com/missenell

Definitely part ragdoll. Doesn't look like the same cat to me...

Why does it not have a notched ear? If it was chipped, it should have a notch as well.

stomachmonkey 03-19-2020 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pazuzu (Post 10790767)
Your car is a dead ringer for Miss Nell:
https://www.instagram.com/missenell

Definitely part ragdoll. Doesn't look like the same cat to me...

Why does it not have a notched ear? If it was chipped, it should have a notch as well.

Notched ears are for ferals that have been trapped, neutered, then released so you know they have been fixed already.

Pets don't get notched.

Tidybuoy 03-19-2020 03:59 PM

The cats look like identical twins and my bet is that they are related.

That said, your cat appears to have a lazy left eye. I have a cat that has the same thing and always has one eye a little bit squinted. For that reason, I think they are different cats; both with identical and unique markings.

I have two cats that are 3 years apart - a boy and a girl. They are virtually identical except Ziggy Long Tail has a long tail & Baby Little Tale has a little tail. That is the only way to tell them apart.

Steve Carlton 03-19-2020 05:08 PM

Did the folks claiming it's their cat see pictures of the one you have? Hard to believe it's not the same cat.

widebody911 03-19-2020 05:55 PM

I don't think he really wants to go "home"

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1584669268.jpg

widebody911 03-19-2020 06:00 PM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1584669642.jpg

pwd72s 03-19-2020 07:02 PM

Obvious that you've become attached. Who wouldn't be? He's a beauty....but what's right is right. Do the chip thing...asap.

Bill Douglas 03-19-2020 07:10 PM

That is YOUR cat.

He's really promoting himself.

In regard to not being very bright; with looks like that he doesn't need to be smart.

rusnak 03-19-2020 07:30 PM

If he's not chipped, I know he WILL BE, right? That is one happy cat. He wants to stay.

Bill Douglas 03-19-2020 07:37 PM

I know someone who knows someone who can re-write numbers.

stomachmonkey 03-19-2020 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by widebody911 (Post 10791053)
I don't think he really wants to go "home"

Well as you already know, Cats choose their staff.

Did not want to say it but from the start I got the feeling you really don't want it leaving.

If there is mutual consent, then it is what it is.

What'ya gonna name him? As if you haven't already.

Pazuzu 03-19-2020 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stomachmonkey (Post 10790832)
Notched ears are for ferals that have been trapped, neutered, then released so you know they have been fixed already.

Pets don't get notched.

I've got two indoor and one outdoor cat, and they all have notched ears and chips. They all were born on the mean streets, but even a pet (especially one who might be 3 miles away) needs that same type of immediate visual protection, in my mind.


As for this cat, definitely a ragdoll. We couldn't figure out why our one rescue kept flopping over (like, violently) everytime he wanted pets. Turns out he's a pretty much full blooded ragdoll, and that's what they do. They are 100% into belly rubs, when most cats are 100% into killing you for even thinking about belly rubs.

They also tend to have fur which is about 14 inches deep...
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1584676851.jpg

stomachmonkey 03-19-2020 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pazuzu (Post 10791141)
...They all were born on the mean streets...[/img]

Did you acquire them with ears notched already?

Born on the mean streets ='s feral.

widebody911 03-21-2020 07:21 AM

Update: two days ago I both emailed the other party with my phone number, and called and left a message - haven't heard back yet.

"If you could just go ahead and refill this, that would be greaat, thanks."

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1584803944.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1584803944.jpg
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