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stevej37 03-29-2020 02:28 PM

signing on tv
 
Ok..lately watching too much news on tv.
Why is it that with every prez/gov news release...they have someone 'signing' for those with hearing loss?
Almost all tv's in the last 15 or 20 years have had captioning for those who have trouble. I use it for movies sometimes.. even though my hearing is almost good.

Are they doing it just for the people in the newsroom?
Anyone watching tv that needs the help would already have the captioning on...right?
What am I overlooking?:confused:

Major Dad 03-29-2020 02:34 PM

It’s to do with equal rights.

biosurfer1 03-29-2020 02:57 PM

Closed captioning usually sucks for live TV

id10t 03-29-2020 03:14 PM

Because the live real time captioning isn't accurate enough to satisfy the ADA. Also with ASL a good "speaker" who is translating will be able to use facial expressions, etc. to bring it closer to how the actual message was delivered vs. just reading the words in a monotone as they scroll by.

Not even the YouTube auto-captioning for uploaded content - which can hit 99% with a wide range of voice types and some types of accents - isn't good enough for us to depend on it for "requested accommodations" for course lectures, etc. under the ADA.

stevej37 03-29-2020 03:24 PM

Just seems to me that there is too much chance of mistakes in the giving and receiving of signing as opposed to captioning.
I guess if using both at the same time would be the best.

Rawknees'Turbo 03-29-2020 03:38 PM

An example of signing being way mo' better than closed captioning.

<iframe width="656" height="369" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/DYoB_A8GZ08" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

stevej37 03-29-2020 03:43 PM

^^^ Nobody would dare question if she was doing it right.

Rawknees'Turbo 03-29-2020 03:45 PM

Ha ha - no doubt! :D

stevej37 04-13-2020 02:00 PM

I see the only advantage of signing...is for those with hearing disabilities and unable to read.
Otherwise CC is much more accurate.

dad911 04-13-2020 02:04 PM

Tacoma FD signing. NSFW.......

gacook 04-13-2020 02:05 PM

I hate CC. I always find myself reading it, even when I can hear just fine. Having said that...I beg to differ with your assessment that it's accurate. I have NEVER seen anything CC'd that didn't have some really major flaws.

stevej37 04-13-2020 02:09 PM

^^^I've tried it the last few Prez news conferences. It's word for word. Plus, when announcing numbers, the signer is lost.
Maybe there is a diff between tv's. Mine is 3 yrs old.

Crowbob 04-13-2020 02:12 PM

The irony of that concert is that she is signing for people who've gone to too many concerts.

It's waaay more enjoyable if you can't hear it.

gacook 04-13-2020 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevej37 (Post 10823279)
^^^I've tried it the last few Prez news conferences. It's word for word. Plus, when announcing numbers, the signer is lost.
Maybe there is a diff between tv's. Mine is 3 yrs old.

Maybe. Never had it on at home...just see it in various offices and it makes me laugh some of the things that get mutilated between audio and print.

stevej37 04-13-2020 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crowbob (Post 10823283)
The irony of that concert is that she is signing for people who've gone to too many concerts.

It's waaay more enjoyable if you can't hear it.


Hard to understand going to a rock concert and then having to watch a signer to 'hear' it. :)

red-beard 04-13-2020 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Rawknees'Turbo (Post 10802961)
An example of signing being way mo' better than closed captioning.

<iframe width="656" height="369" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/DYoB_A8GZ08" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

There is something odd about all of the security...

Rawknees'Turbo 04-13-2020 03:02 PM

^^^

Looks like standard, Texas physique to me. :D

id10t 04-13-2020 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevej37 (Post 10823297)
Hard to understand going to a rock concert and then having to watch a signer to 'hear' it. :)

Go to enough loud enough ones and you will :)

masraum 04-13-2020 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by red-beard (Post 10823318)
There is something odd about all of the security...

Two kinds of security, a bunch of big guys that look like they'll stomp your head, or those guys who are basically just a living wall of flesh.

Pazuzu 04-13-2020 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by masraum (Post 10823367)
Two kinds of security, a bunch of big guys that look like they'll stomp your head, or those guys who are basically just a living wall of flesh.

We were about 10 feet from the cameraman at that show. Those guys spent 6 hours continuously catching people coming over the fence, putting them down gently, and sending them on their way. I don't care how fat they look, they were chucking 150 pounds metalheads for 6 hours straight.

Oh, the interpreter was there because a deaf person contacted the facility and requested it. There were actually 3 of them that took 30 minute shifts (for 6 hours...), they went that hard the whole time. The bands kept coming over and hanging with them, because 3 of them rocked as hard as 6 bands did...


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