Originally Posted by kcf7z (Post 10812725)

This is one time that you need to realize that we are behind in our efforts to contain this. The media, I agree has a bad track record for reliability and sensationalism. This time though they may be underselling the issue. Our American principles of individual choice and don’t tell me what it do is going to be many people’s undoing.

I have been and am on 2 fronts. Someone who has had the virus and as a doctor. If it takes me to tell you this is not to be messed with then I am happy I have had influence in our community. Stay safe and stay home.

Asymptomatic people transmitting this are the biggest danger.

Originally Posted by URY914 (Post 10813270)

She'll be covered in the virus.

Originally Posted by URY914 (Post 10812915)

Thank you. We have seen that story. We are cleaning our masks with ultra vielot light. It is the same machines we use to clean our patient rooms.

About three weeks ago I was directed to send my staff out to every Home Depot, Lowe's, paint store, hardware store, basically everywhere we can think of and buy all the safety glasses and face masks.

For the last week I've had contractors working 12 hour shifts 7 days a week building out empty shell patient floors into mass patient units. This week we're going to 2-12 hour shifts. We're adding about 350 beds in those floors. We took over our dining room to make it a patient ward. We have our mechanical contractor working 2 -12 hour shifts building temporary med gas head-walls in their shop. We're ordering the parts and pieces to add a second patient to every single patient room. We've bought 1200 cots for patients. Saturday I met with our oxygen supplier to add a trailer mounted tank at 3 of our hospitals. We're running 2" oxygen lines up the side of the building to feed these shell floors. Our peak in predicted to me May 3. April 24 is my deadline to get these floors ready for the surge.

Don't tell me the media is over blowing this thing. This is a result of our State and Federal government's inaction to plan and react.

Originally Posted by wdfifteen (Post 10812866)

Well that’s too bad.
You’ve got your choices for information, the various news outlets, the government, and yoyos like the people in that video. Who do you trust implicitly? Hopefully no one. Who do you completely dismiss? Hopefully no one.
The trick is to be smart and critical and glean information from many sources.
Even the clowns in that video had some good information- the hospitals as shown in the news aren’t crowded 24/7. Good to know. Of course, like the news media, they then took it too far and implied that the hospitals are never busy.
It’s a jungle out there.

Originally Posted by techweenie (Post 10813265)

CNN aired an interview of a woman headed to a church for pre-Easter services (palm sunday?), who said she was unconcerned about coronavirus because she was 'covered in Jesus' blood.' So there are those folks as well...

Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy (Post 10813543)

Bad on the church, ours has been closed for weeks and doing mass via internet.

Originally Posted by URY914 (Post 10812915)

Thank you. We have seen that story. We are cleaning our masks with ultra vielot light. It is the same machines we use to clean our patient rooms.

About three weeks ago I was directed to send my staff out to every Home Depot, Lowe's, paint store, hardware store, basically everywhere we can think of and buy all the safety glasses and face masks.

For the last week I've had contractors working 12 hour shifts 7 days a week building out empty shell patient floors into mass patient units. This week we're going to 2-12 hour shifts. We're adding about 350 beds in those floors. We took over our dining room to make it a patient ward. We have our mechanical contractor working 2 -12 hour shifts building temporary med gas head-walls in their shop. We're ordering the parts and pieces to add a second patient to every single patient room. We've bought 1200 cots for patients. Saturday I met with our oxygen supplier to add a trailer mounted tank at 3 of our hospitals. We're running 2" oxygen lines up the side of the building to feed these shell floors. Our peak in predicted to me May 3. April 24 is my deadline to get these floors ready for the surge.

Don't tell me the media is over blowing this thing. This is a result of our State and Federal government's inaction to plan and react.

Originally Posted by tabs (Post 10812959)

Well we can now tell who the whack jobs are on this Board now can't we?

Originally Posted by Rtrorkt (Post 10813573)

^^This
The government failed in its basic duty to keep its citizens safe. By downplaying the initial response and waiting until even the village idiot could see there was an issue, more deaths will occur than was necessary. CDC rolled out a test, too late in my view, that was flawed and could not be used. More than a week was wasted. When a test was available there were not enough and the kits did not have all of the components needed for testing. Then the two commercial labs that were authorized, though there were many more who were capable, were overwhelmed with 10 day turn around. Can't make treatment choices base on that.There were tests available from Germany and other countries that proved safe and effective, but our government said no, we only us US developed tests. Wasted more time. The only way to get out in front of these things is testing to know who and where. Total failure by the administration who disbanded the infectious disease group for no good reason. The media may be sensationalist, but when the dust settles, the only conclusion is a failure of leadership

Originally Posted by Chocaholic (Post 10813228)

Certainly there is a social benefit to the extreme reporting. Think about it...if the news were less sensational and frightening, thousands/millions would ignore the warnings about social interaction. As Americans, we don’t take orders well. Perhaps a bit of hype is helpful.

Originally Posted by aigel (Post 10813716)

Not a whole lot better here. Great fireman now, but if you set the blaze and then shine putting it out, how good a fireman are you really?

I don't think individual's greed made the PPE crisis. We were let down by our government. They did not do a proper risk analysis with mitigations, otherwise the fact that a respiratory virus could come take us by storm would have been mitigated by stockpiling PPE and equipment. I said this in other threads, but we have the biggest military in the world, missile defense systems, strategic oil reserves, cyber defense yadda yadda ... but can't stockpile a couple hundred million dollar's worth of PPE.

G

Originally Posted by URY914 (Post 10812915)

Thank you. We have seen that story. We are cleaning our masks with ultra vielot light. It is the same machines we use to clean our patient rooms.

About three weeks ago I was directed to send my staff out to every Home Depot, Lowe's, paint store, hardware store, basically everywhere we can think of and buy all the safety glasses and face masks.

For the last week I've had contractors working 12 hour shifts 7 days a week building out empty shell patient floors into mass patient units. This week we're going to 2-12 hour shifts. We're adding about 350 beds in those floors. We took over our dining room to make it a patient ward. We have our mechanical contractor working 2 -12 hour shifts building temporary med gas head-walls in their shop. We're ordering the parts and pieces to add a second patient to every single patient room. We've bought 1200 cots for patients. Saturday I met with our oxygen supplier to add a trailer mounted tank at 3 of our hospitals. We're running 2" oxygen lines up the side of the building to feed these shell floors. Our peak in predicted to me May 3. April 24 is my deadline to get these floors ready for the surge.

Don't tell me the media is over blowing this thing. This is a result of our State and Federal government's inaction to plan and react.

Originally Posted by 93nav (Post 10813726)

We did/do have a stockpile. Started by Clinton, enhanced by Bush, 75% +/- used by Obama for H1N1, and then not restocked by Obama or Trump.

Curios - What is your stockpile like for 'the big on' in LA/CA? Just wondering since a lot of people complain about the government for not planning, but not planning them selves. Not saying you are one of those, but I am sure you know of people like that.

Originally Posted by aigel (Post 10813853)

In the 90th percentile for sure. I also prepared for covid before most people did worry about it. Gloves and face masks in late Jan and a $400 trip to Costco in late Feb. Also, we know how to cook, bake and butcher an animal. Probably would not be the first people in trouble.

G

Originally Posted by Crowbob (Post 10813951)

Won't help much if it's all under a pile of San Francisco rubble. The government has been telling us the big one is a when, not an if. So when it hits, not if it hits, I'll be prepared to hear how the government failed by not permanently evacuating the fault lines decades ago.