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ckissick 04-09-2020 07:32 AM

My hope for Sweden is that they'll have a curve that is only moderately flattened, but will have only one hump when all of this is over. Other countries may have flatter curves, but when they relax measures, it may ramp up and start all over again because so many people had not been exposed. The numbers may not look so good in Sweden at the moment, but in the long run it may turn out okay, and their economy will be in much better shape. Let's hope so, anyway.

ckissick 04-09-2020 11:29 AM

The latest out of Sweden. The comments are interesting.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/swedens-relaxed-approach-coronavirus-could-143358386.html

Cajundaddy 04-09-2020 12:26 PM

Many of the Docs there are not convinced this is the best course of action.

A head doctor at a major hospital in Sweden says the current approach will “probably end in a historical massacre.” He says healthcare workers at his hospital who have tested positive for the virus but are asymptomatic have been advised to continue working. He asked to remain anonymous because “it is frowned upon to speak of the epidemic or to go against the official vision” but said he felt a need to speak out from an “ethical and medical point of view.”

Jim Richards 04-09-2020 12:52 PM

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/science/article/3078840/coronavirus-low-antibody-levels-raise-questions-about

McLovin 04-09-2020 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajundaddy (Post 10817905)
Many of the Docs there are not convinced this is the best course of action.

Yet, many of the Docs there are convinced it is.

So I guess it’s a wash.

1990C4S 04-09-2020 02:02 PM

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A head doctor at a major hospital in Sweden says the current approach will “probably end in a historical massacre.” He says healthcare workers at his hospital who have tested positive for the virus but are asymptomatic have been advised to continue working. He asked to remain anonymous because “it is frowned upon to speak of the epidemic or to go against the official vision” but said he felt a need to speak out from an “ethical and medical point of view.”
Yup, that's the solution. :rolleyes: (If it's true).

smokintr6 04-09-2020 03:01 PM

US was criticized for not accepting COVID test kits that were already available... but those tests did not meet our standards. I read the article you posted, and it said that 10% of the people had antibodies that were so low they could not be detected in a lab. That could easily be explained by ****ty Chinese tests returning a false positive. I dont actually think 10% false positive is excessive considering how ****ty the stuff from there can be. They could be run of the mill Flu survivors. orrr the chinese have accidentally created a super virus that can't be stopped with heard immunity. This is probably the most disheartening article I've read in the last month.

Jim Richards 04-09-2020 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by smokintr6 (Post 10818079)
This is probably the most disheartening article I've read in the last month.

^^^this

dad911 04-09-2020 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by smokintr6 (Post 10818079)
...... orrr the chinese have accidentally created a super virus that can't be stopped with heard immunity. This is probably the most disheartening article I've read in the last month.

If that's the case, sweden is fuched.

red-beard 04-09-2020 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by smokintr6 (Post 10818079)
US was criticized for not accepting COVID test kits that were already available... but those tests did not meet our standards. I read the article you posted, and it said that 10% of the people had antibodies that were so low they could not be detected in a lab. That could easily be explained by ****ty Chinese tests returning a false positive. I dont actually think 10% false positive is excessive considering how ****ty the stuff from there can be. They could be run of the mill Flu survivors. orrr the chinese have accidentally created a super virus that can't be stopped with heard immunity. This is probably the most disheartening article I've read in the last month.

This is not true. The test kits were never offered. These kits were destined for countries unable to make their own tests.

All this aside, the Chinese test kits are about like most stuff from China.

red-beard 04-09-2020 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by KC911 (Post 10817336)
Try telling my 84 yr old dad not to go out to to his breakfast spot (for pickup) unnecessarily...good luck with that :(

Thankfully it finally closed...

I can't get my 86 year old mother to stop going to the store. She has THREE refrigerators full of food.

smokintr6 04-09-2020 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by red-beard (Post 10818134)
I can't get my 86 year old mother to stop going to the store. She has THREE refrigerators full of food.


More than likely you get to that age and you’d rather die than give up your last freedoms that make up your life.

rusnak 04-09-2020 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by red-beard (Post 10818134)
I can't get my 86 year old mother to stop going to the store. She has THREE refrigerators full of food.

It's the routine. You can't get them out of it. At a certain age, they need the routine or they feel disturbed/ unsettled. Something is comforting to them about doing the same thing every day. Mom and Dad go to estate sales and garage sales. They have so much used crap in their two houses, my sister has her own garage sale to sell their crap to make more room.

island911 04-09-2020 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by dad911 (Post 10818126)
If that's the case, sweden is fuched.

Just Sweden?

If that's the case we are all fukt

RSBob 04-09-2020 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by RSBob (Post 10815628)
Sweden is our Alabama or Mississippi, just wait a couple of weeks to see the result.

What this guy said.

As Island said, “ It’s so obvious”

93nav 04-09-2020 09:47 PM

And your Mom and Dad probably went to it (your sister's garage sale).


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Originally Posted by rusnak (Post 10818249)
It's the routine. You can't get them out of it. At a certain age, they need the routine or they feel disturbed/ unsettled. Something is comforting to them about doing the same thing every day. Mom and Dad go to estate sales and garage sales. They have so much used crap in their two houses, my sister has her own garage sale to sell their crap to make more room.


RNajarian 04-12-2020 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ckissick (Post 10817809)
The latest out of Sweden. The comments are interesting.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/swedens-relaxed-approach-coronavirus-could-143358386.html

You may be right . . .

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8212365/Swedish-PM-tighten-coronavirus-restrictions-Austria-Denmark-begin-easing-lockdown.html

dewolf 04-12-2020 07:17 PM

Sweden 10.2M people Current deaths 899

Australia 25.5M people Current deaths 59

Not sure it's working for Sweden.

island911 04-12-2020 07:39 PM

There's a 2 week lag?

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1586749151.jpg

McLovin 04-12-2020 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by tcar (Post 10822233)
Sweden's plan is starting to fall apart....

Is it? Idk, these articles are often confusing and not particularly well written. They often seem to say contradictory things within the same article.

Anyways, from today’s article cited above. Is that good or bad for Sweden?

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1586750397.jpg


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