Sweden Dealing with Covid the Right Way

[ckissick]

My hope for Sweden is that they'll have a curve that is only moderately flattened, but will have only one hump when all of this is over. Other countries may have flatter curves, but when they relax measures, it may ramp up and start all over again because so many people had not been exposed. The numbers may not look so good in Sweden at the moment, but in the long run it may turn out okay, and their economy will be in much better shape. Let's hope so, anyway.

[ckissick]

The latest out of Sweden. The comments are interesting.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/swedens-relaxed-approach-coronavirus-could-143358386.html

[Cajundaddy]

Many of the Docs there are not convinced this is the best course of action.

A head doctor at a major hospital in Sweden says the current approach will “probably end in a historical massacre.” He says healthcare workers at his hospital who have tested positive for the virus but are asymptomatic have been advised to continue working. He asked to remain anonymous because “it is frowned upon to speak of the epidemic or to go against the official vision” but said he felt a need to speak out from an “ethical and medical point of view.”

[Jim Richards]

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/science/article/3078840/coronavirus-low-antibody-levels-raise-questions-about

[McLovin]

Originally Posted by Cajundaddy

Many of the Docs there are not convinced this is the best course of action.

Yet, many of the Docs there are convinced it is.

So I guess it’s a wash.

[1990C4S]

A head doctor at a major hospital in Sweden says the current approach will “probably end in a historical massacre.” He says healthcare workers at his hospital who have tested positive for the virus but are asymptomatic have been advised to continue working. He asked to remain anonymous because “it is frowned upon to speak of the epidemic or to go against the official vision” but said he felt a need to speak out from an “ethical and medical point of view.”

Yup, that's the solution. (If it's true).

[smokintr6]

Originally Posted by Jim Richards

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/science/article/3078840/coronavirus-low-antibody-levels-raise-questions-about

US was criticized for not accepting COVID test kits that were already available... but those tests did not meet our standards. I read the article you posted, and it said that 10% of the people had antibodies that were so low they could not be detected in a lab. That could easily be explained by ****ty Chinese tests returning a false positive. I dont actually think 10% false positive is excessive considering how ****ty the stuff from there can be. They could be run of the mill Flu survivors. orrr the chinese have accidentally created a super virus that can't be stopped with heard immunity. This is probably the most disheartening article I've read in the last month.

[Jim Richards]

Originally Posted by smokintr6

This is probably the most disheartening article I've read in the last month.

^^^this

[dad911]

Originally Posted by smokintr6

...... orrr the chinese have accidentally created a super virus that can't be stopped with heard immunity. This is probably the most disheartening article I've read in the last month.

If that's the case, sweden is fuched.

[red-beard]

Originally Posted by smokintr6

US was criticized for not accepting COVID test kits that were already available... but those tests did not meet our standards. I read the article you posted, and it said that 10% of the people had antibodies that were so low they could not be detected in a lab. That could easily be explained by ****ty Chinese tests returning a false positive. I dont actually think 10% false positive is excessive considering how ****ty the stuff from there can be. They could be run of the mill Flu survivors. orrr the chinese have accidentally created a super virus that can't be stopped with heard immunity. This is probably the most disheartening article I've read in the last month.

This is not true. The test kits were never offered. These kits were destined for countries unable to make their own tests.

All this aside, the Chinese test kits are about like most stuff from China.

[red-beard]

Originally Posted by KC911

Try telling my 84 yr old dad not to go out to to his breakfast spot (for pickup) unnecessarily...good luck with that

Thankfully it finally closed...

I can't get my 86 year old mother to stop going to the store. She has THREE refrigerators full of food.

[smokintr6]

Originally Posted by red-beard

I can't get my 86 year old mother to stop going to the store. She has THREE refrigerators full of food.

More than likely you get to that age and you’d rather die than give up your last freedoms that make up your life.

[rusnak]

Originally Posted by red-beard

I can't get my 86 year old mother to stop going to the store. She has THREE refrigerators full of food.

It's the routine. You can't get them out of it. At a certain age, they need the routine or they feel disturbed/ unsettled. Something is comforting to them about doing the same thing every day. Mom and Dad go to estate sales and garage sales. They have so much used crap in their two houses, my sister has her own garage sale to sell their crap to make more room.

[island911]

Originally Posted by dad911

If that's the case, sweden is fuched.

Just Sweden?

If that's the case we are all fukt

[RSBob]

Originally Posted by RSBob

Sweden is our Alabama or Mississippi, just wait a couple of weeks to see the result.

What this guy said.

As Island said, “ It’s so obvious”

[93nav]

And your Mom and Dad probably went to it (your sister's garage sale).

Originally Posted by rusnak

It's the routine. You can't get them out of it. At a certain age, they need the routine or they feel disturbed/ unsettled. Something is comforting to them about doing the same thing every day. Mom and Dad go to estate sales and garage sales. They have so much used crap in their two houses, my sister has her own garage sale to sell their crap to make more room.

[RNajarian]

Originally Posted by ckissick

The latest out of Sweden. The comments are interesting.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/swedens-relaxed-approach-coronavirus-could-143358386.html

You may be right . . .

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8212365/Swedish-PM-tighten-coronavirus-restrictions-Austria-Denmark-begin-easing-lockdown.html

[dewolf]

Sweden 10.2M people Current deaths 899

Australia 25.5M people Current deaths 59

Not sure it's working for Sweden.

[island911]

There's a 2 week lag?

[McLovin]

Originally Posted by tcar

Sweden's plan is starting to fall apart....

Is it? Idk, these articles are often confusing and not particularly well written. They often seem to say contradictory things within the same article.

Anyways, from today’s article cited above. Is that good or bad for Sweden?