Hotels for homeless with corona

[look 171]

Not sure if this has been discussed? I got talking with my accountant this morning and he was btiching about our governor signing an executive order of 150 million to be spend on homeless with Corona virus. He wanted isolate them in hotels, motels and other facilities. This included facilities that are for senior housing. My accountant owns a hotel and he's afraid they may force him to offer up his place for the homeless since business has gone down the drain.

I can only imagine what that place will be like after two weeks? Trashed. "Oh yeah bob, let go live in the Hilton instead of the tent on the bike trail along the river. Hell they even clean up after you". Drugs and all the mess that comes along with the sick homeless, put everyone working there or nearby at huge risk. Who the hell is going to pay for the destruction? Oh lets not forget, after 30 days, they have renter rights and there's no eviction on top of that. We don't throw out squatters in this wonderful state. What or who's going to stop them from going outside into the community after a few days of being cooped up inside when they have urge to shoot up? Not me, hell no.

I am not up on this, anyone heard or have any knowledge on this mess? I know there are a lot of people in favor of this. I suggest they volunteer their time to clean up after them and I know that Governor Newsone has a few spare rooms in his mansion to house or isolate a few ill homeless folks with the virus.

[vash]

mixed feelings.

having them isolate safely helps everyone. they dude mumbling to his penis outside an office spitting feverishly isnt doing anyone any favors.

not so sure they need to go to the Hilton. 150 million is a lot of money.

[varmint]

Dead End Drive-In is a 1986 Australian dystopian action film[2] about a teenage couple trapped in a drive-in theatre which is really a concentration camp for societal rejects. The inmates, many of whom sport punk fashion, are placated with a steady diet of junk food, new wave music, drugs, and exploitation films. The film was directed by Brian Trenchard-Smith. It stars Ned Manning and Natalie McCurry as the captive couple, and Peter Whitford as the manager of the drive-in. Mad Max 2 stuntman Guy Norris did some of the stunts. The soundtrack includes contemporary popular music performed by such bands as Kids in the Kitchen and Hunters and Collectors. The song during the rolling credits is "Playing With Fire" by Lisa Edwards.



Plot[edit]
In the near future, the economy has collapsed and massive crime waves sweep the inner cities. The manufacturing industry has shrunk to the point where cars are a commodity and parts are fought over between salvage companies and roving gangs. In an attempt to control the crime-wave, a chain of drive-in theatres are turned into concentration camps for the undesirable and unemployed youth. The dirty, graffiti-laden drive-ins are surrounded by high fences, and the roads leading to them are Security Roads ("S-Roads") that do not allow walking under any circumstances. Police collaborate with the owner to sabotage cars of unsuspecting visitors; however, some who know the true nature of the drive-ins come voluntarily for the shelter and food. Broken cars are continuously collected at these facilities. The prisoners are allowed easy access to a wide variety of drugs, alcohol, junk food, exploitation films, and new wave music. This, coupled with the awful conditions on the outside, engineers an atmosphere of complacency and hopelessness so the inmates will accept their fate and not attempt escape.

Jimmy, a young health nut who is nicknamed Crabs, sneaks off with his brother's vintage 1956 Chevy to take his girlfriend, Carmen, to the local Star Drive-In. He tells the owner they are unemployed to get a discounted rate. While Crabs is intimate with Carmen, the rear tyres of his car are stolen, and Crabs soon discovers the police are responsible. Crabs complains to the owner, but he refuses to help until morning. The next morning, Crabs and Carmen are amazed at the number of cars still there, many of which have turned into hovels. The owner, Thompson, pretends to fill out a report and enters them both into the system. He lets them know they will be there for a while, as there are no buses or cabs, and gives them a stack of meal tickets to use at the run-down cafe. Time drags on, and Crabs makes several attempts at escape that are thwarted.

Preparing for an attempt to climb a fence he discovered was electrified, he locates the tyres he needs but learns his fuel tank has been drained. He steals fuel from a police vehicle, but then finds his engine stripped. Suspecting that Thompson, who receives a stipend for each prisoner, is behind the sabotage, Crabs warns him not interfere again. Further complicating matters are the verbal and physical fights Crabs continues to have with one of the racist gangs. During this time, Carmen makes no attempt to avoid the unhealthy eating and drug culture at the camp. She becomes friends with several of the female inmates, who are successful at indoctrinating her to the encampment's bizarre racist mentality that Asians are to somehow blame for their problems, a situation exacerbated by the arrival of foreigners trucked into the camp. All attempts to talk sense into her fail, and Crabs soon realizes that she has succumbed to the hopelessness that pervades the encampment.

Crabs attempts one more spectacular effort at escape: while the majority of the encampment, including Carmen, attends a racist meeting, he hijacks a tow truck. He attempts to sneak out peacefully, but is recognized by Thompson. This leads to a car chase inside the encampment; the police fire automatic weapons at the tow truck, which frightens the prisoners who are hiding in the cafe. Eventually, Crabs crashes but manages to elude the police on foot. He finds Carmen and unsuccessfully attempts to reason with her; he kisses her and wishes her well. Crabs disarms Thompson and forces him to delete his profile, but his escape attempt ends in a violent confrontation with the police; Thompson is accidentally killed, and the remaining policeman hunts down Crabs. Using a ramp near the entrance, Crabs launches his tow truck over the fence and lands on the S-Road.

[rcooled]

This idea of moving all the bums and freeloaders into now-vacant hotels will surly turn out to be a major FUBAR. The homeless are a growth industry here in CA, with an overabundance of non-profits angling for a share of the federal, state, and local grant money being thrown at this problem.

Once all the activists and their lawyers get involved, it'll be all but impossible to pry these people out of their newfound 'homes'. And if they finally do manage to get them to leave, who'll be responsible for getting these properties cleaned out, decontaminated and repaired? When a recent illegal homeless encampment on city property was ordered to vacate, the bums just up and walked away, leaving all their junk and trash behind and sticking the taxpayers with a $160K bill for hazard waste removal and general cleanup.

There was a recent case in Oakland CA where a group of welfare mothers decided to break into and occupy a vacant property belonging to an out-of-town development group. When authorities attempted to evict them, all hell broke loose. The rent-a-mob protesters hit the streets and there was major media coverage, mostly in favor of letting the squatters remain. Even Oakland's mayor and members of the city council sided with them. After a few months, the sheriff finally removed the women amid the usual cries of brutality and racism. The development group finally caved to the activist's demands and wound up paying for the removal and storage of all the squatter's stuff and agreed to provide them with temporary shelter.

I would expect the same thing to happen with this plan too, only on a much larger scale.

[look 171]

Originally Posted by rcooled

This idea of moving all the bums and freeloaders into now-vacant hotels will surly turn out to be a major FUBAR. The homeless are a growth industry here in CA, with an overabundance of non-profits angling for a share of the federal, state, and local grant money being thrown at this problem.

Once all the activists and their lawyers get involved, it'll be all but impossible to pry these people out of their newfound 'homes'. And if they finally do manage to get them to leave, who'll be responsible for getting these properties cleaned out, decontaminated and repaired? When a recent illegal homeless encampment on city property was ordered to vacate, the bums just up and walked away, leaving all their junk and trash behind and sticking the taxpayers with a $160K bill for hazard waste removal and general cleanup.

There was a recent case in Oakland CA where a group of welfare mothers decided to break into and occupy a vacant property belonging to an out-of-town development group. When authorities attempted to evict them, all hell broke loose. The rent-a-mob protesters hit the streets and there was major media coverage, mostly in favor of letting the squatters remain. Even Oakland's mayor and members of the city council sided with them. After a few months, the sheriff finally removed the women amid the usual cries of brutality and racism. The development group finally caved to the activist's demands and wound up paying for the removal and storage of all the squatter's stuff and agreed to provide them with temporary shelter.

I would expect the same thing to happen with this plan too, only on a much larger scale.

My fear exactly. Squatter's law in full swing and with the left nut jobs fanning the flames, a lot of good people are going get hurt by this but no one seems to care. The other issue is containment. Sick with deadly virus, they will go out looking for drugs or whatnot, so how and who's going to keep then in the "Camp". Cops wouldn't do a thing.

I just found this. I bet the owner will bank big bucks on this deal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHfw7aLA_Yo. What a mess.

[mattdavis11]

The idiots in Austin Texas have been buying hotels for the homeless at almost 3X market value. They have also rented a hotel with 292 rooms for the homeless that contract COVID-19.

[craigster59]

They've taken over 2 motels in my town but both were bottom of the barrel.

I wonder if they can make them pay for a complete overhaul/ renovation after all is said and done. I'd dang sure expect it after the Gov commandeered my property.

[look 171]

Originally Posted by craigster59

They've taken over 2 motels in my town but both were bottom of the barrel.

I wonder if they can make them pay for a complete overhaul/ renovation after all is said and done. I'd dang sure expect it after the Gov commandeered my property.

Wife told me they are doing that to Vegas. Vegas is fighting it. I thought it was only our numb nuts governor? It just pisses me off that the government just don't care about the welfare of the hard working citizens.

It might be low end now, for the owner, its a ticket to a fatter bank account or simply just to stay afloat. Said times. Now, the million dollar question, will they have to disclose that after the dust settles? I am almost sure or that info must be on the net somewhere, so that will spell death to those hotels. I sure for one would not want to stay there. It maybe the bottom end now, but the nicer ones will have to offer their service like the one in OC in my link.

[rusnak]

I deal a lot with the homeless. Heck, some of our employees used to be homeless.

The way out for your CPA is to insist on two things: (1) a strict lockdown with no personal articles in or out, and (2) mandatory drug testing. They break either, and your housing obligation is done. Insist on government clean up money and payment up front. It might work out ok.

[look 171]

Originally Posted by rusnak

I deal a lot with the homeless. Heck, some of our employees used to be homeless.

The way out for your CPA is to insist on two things: (1) a strict lockdown with no personal articles in or out, and (2) mandatory drug testing. They break either, and your housing obligation is done. Insist on government clean up money and payment up front. It might work out ok.

I wish it was that easy about drug testing and the ability to throw em' out at will or if they break a rule. Since this is gov program to isolate virus cases, its not going to be that easy to toss them out on the street. I don't know if the gov. is going to pick up the tab on the clean up or rebuilding. I have yet talk to him about the details. Since its tax time, he's on a time crunch even though due date has been extended. Oh, he's pissed. So am I

[wdfifteen]

Originally Posted by look 171

I wish it was that easy about drug testing and the ability to throw em' out at will or if they break a rule. Since this is gov program to isolate virus cases, its not going to be that easy to toss them out on the street. I

It’s not easy or smart to toss them. This isn’t some sudden new concern for the plight of the homeless, it’s about isolating a vulnerable and largely irresponsible community that is likely to have a far greater infection rate than average from the rest of us.

[WPOZZZ]

Originally Posted by look 171

I wish it was that easy about drug testing and the ability to throw em' out at will or if they break a rule. Since this is gov program to isolate virus cases, its not going to be that easy to toss them out on the street. I don't know if the gov. is going to pick up the tab on the clean up or rebuilding. I have yet talk to him about the details. Since its tax time, he's on a time crunch even though due date has been extended. Oh, he's pissed. So am I

Did your Gov declare a state of emergency? If so, all bets are off.

[jyl]

In Portland, a couple of large places (convention center, etc) have been converted to temporary shelters for the homeless.

The city has temporarily paused sweeping camps, so homeless-occupied tents and RVs are popping up in a few more places. Homeless tents were already pretty common so it’s not a major change.

If I owned a hotel that was at risk of being commandered for a purpose I didn’t want, I’d publicly offer it as a place for Covid positives to self isolate (at a very discounted rate). I’d take in a few. Then when the homeless services officials call, explain 1) you’re already busy sheltering sick people, and 2) the hotel is contaminated and too dangerous for the homeless.

Alternatively, I’d offer it as a place for battered women during the crisis - contact domestic violence groups and get on their referral list. And I’d take in as many as you can safely handle. I’m serious: the lockdown has made this problem worse, battered women stuck indoors with a guy who has lost his job and even more taking it out on her and the kids. When the homeless services officials call, explain ... you get the idea.

[widebody911]

Any room used for this endeavor will be pretty much a write-off.

[Rikao4]

burn it while it has value..

[berettafan]

Originally Posted by wdfifteen

it’s about isolating a vulnerable and largely irresponsible community that is likely to have a far greater infection rate than average from the rest of us.

Restaurant staff should be treated the same as the rest of us.



Oh...we were talking homeless...

Right then, the idea of putting them in hotels is a poor, poor plan. Didn't we see the virus lasted quite some time on an empty cruise ship?

[craigster59]

When we had the rains here in December the Altadena shelter had 120 beds. They went down into the Tujunga Wash homeless encampments and contacted 78 people to offer them a roof over their heads.

3 people showed up when the rains came.

What are they going to do, take them against their will and force them into quarantine?

[look 171]

Originally Posted by craigster59

When we had the rains here in December the Altadena shelter had 120 beds. They went down into the Tujunga Wash homeless encampments and contacted 78 people to offer them a roof over their heads.

3 people showed up when the rains came.

What are they going to do, take them against their will and force them into quarantine?

These bums ain t dumb. They dislike rules and they can't shoot up, get drunk and have no freedom. I am not sure how they will proof they have the virus and that if they are to use force?

[gacook]

I'll never understand why some cities/states spend so much on the homeless. By and large it's a choice. Leave them alone (if they're not breaking laws) and let the problem take care of itself.

[widebody911]

When did we start calling them "homeless" instead "bums"?