Need a laptop recommendation...

[Scott Douglas]

He just called and said he just got home from picking up the Asus at the store.
We shall see what happens now.

[Scott Douglas]

I hear you guys loud and clear. These folks are not your typical computer users. The most 'computing' this machine will be asked to do is Zooming or Facetime (if it's possible, I'm not even sure of that).
That and surfing the web possibly.

She drives a Civic so I'm sure it'll be fast enough for her needs.

[sugarwood]

Originally Posted by Scott Douglas

I hear you guys loud and clear. These folks are not your typical computer users. The most 'computing' this machine will be asked to do is Zooming or Facetime (if it's possible, I'm not even sure of that).
That and surfing the web possibly.

She drives a Civic so I'm sure it'll be fast enough for her needs.

Did you watch the video I posted?

[stomachmonkey]

Originally Posted by Scott Douglas

Sorry, I'm not going to reco an Apple for her. She is not computer savy and he will have enough trouble getting her up and running on the Win machine as it is I'm sure.

That's an odd perspective.

iPads are possibly the easiest thing to use.

She has a phone right?

Tablets, Android or Apple, are really just larger versions of a device she already uses every day.

There is nothing "to learn"

[berettafan]

Yep i gotta agree the macbook is about as good as it gets for laptops. had my pro for several years now and, unlike every pc product i've ever owned, still operates as quickly and well as the day i bought it.

You can mess around with the 'ok, NOW we got it figured out' ms based laptops or you can buy one that just plain works.

[Scott Douglas]

Originally Posted by sugarwood

Did you watch the video I posted?

I have not watched it, yet.

[Scott Douglas]

All - The neighbor asked for a laptop recommendation. As big a screen as possible, camera capable, and $300 tops for budget.
Are there better solutions?
More than likely, but I'm not about to try to convince him of that.
Could he get something better elsewhere?
Sure, but he can't drive there and have in his hands right now and have the ease of replacement he got by going to Best Buy.

I haven't heard back from him so I THINK all is going well. Today will probably be the first test.

[Cajundaddy]

Originally Posted by Scott Douglas

Sorry, I'm not going to reco an Apple for her. She is not computer savy and he will have enough trouble getting her up and running on the Win machine as it is I'm sure.

Probably too late but this is a misunderstanding. There is simply no easier tech to use than an Apple ipad and they were specifically designed for folks who are categorically "not computer savy". If she got one she would love it and find it 100x easier to use than a bottom basement Win laptop filled with bloatware.

https://www.techopedia.com/definition/4237/bloatware

[Seahawk]

Originally Posted by Scott Douglas

All - The neighbor asked for a laptop recommendation. As big a screen as possible, camera capable, and $300 tops for budget.
Are there better solutions?

Scott, you did great: Nobodies wrong if everybody is right!

We all have our preferences...I am a Mac convert, still have the Pro I bought 11 years ago and repaired with help from the folks here.

Now, if your Buddy is looking for a 1/2 ton truck...

[flipper35]

Ridgeline!

[Scott Douglas]

Hey, I'd be a Mac nut too if I could have afforded to buy one way back in the mid'80's when I ended up with a Mac II on my desk and the company said they could get us a deal on one.
Yeah, $6k for a box, no monitor included.
Wish I could have sprung for one then but it wasn't going to happen in a million years.

Show me an iPad or whatever that I can get for less than $300 so I can replace my wife's iPad when she runs it into the ground. Her iPad II or Air whatever it is, is running out of space (16gb).
I'm all ears.

[Steve Carlton]

Anything here?

https://slickdeals.net/newsearch.php?src=SearchBarV2&q=ipad&pp=20&rating=3&previousdays=7&pricemin=200.00&pricemax=400.00&forumid%5B%5D=30&forumid%5B%5D=71&forumid%5B%5D=9&forumid%5B%5D=25&forumid%5B%5D=54&forumid%5B%5D=38&forumid%5B%5D=4&forumid%5B%5D=10&forumid%5B%5D=53&forumid%5B%5D=8&forumid%5B%5D=13&forumid%5B%5D=39&r=1

https://www.amazon.com/s?k=ipad+tablets&rh=p_89%3AApple%2Cp_72%3A2661619011&s=relevanceblender&dc&qid=1587058058&rnid=2661617011&ref=sr_nr_p_72_2

[Scott Douglas]

Thanks Steve.
I just reco'd this one to my neighbor since he just called saying he can't Facetime with the Asus so it is going back to Best Buy.

https://www.amazon.com/Apple-iPad-10-2-Inch-Wi-Fi-32GB/dp/B07XL7G4HH/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=ipad+tablets&qid=1587058126&sr=8-3

I think this would be a good one for my wife too.

[john70t]

Originally Posted by Cajundaddy

Probably too late but this is a misunderstanding. There is simply no easier tech to use than an Apple ipad and they were specifically designed for folks who are categorically "not computer savy". If she got one she would love it and find it 100x easier to use than a bottom basement Win laptop filled with bloatware.

I'd recommend to stick with the platform she and the neighbor knows already.

I'm maybe an upper-low-level Windows user but the Mac platform still has me stumped.
There are so many new tricks and sub-menus needed to find where your files actually are.
And iTunes is a pure mystery.

For instance, using a DVD is as easy as plugging in a USB external drive on the PC.
Same with creating back-ups. Just drag over the files. Done.
(Apple got rid of that handy feature and others such as a simple headphone jack).

The installed bloatware can removed in "Control panel->Programs".
"Task manager" tells you what programs are running and the used resources.
Make desktop shortcuts to access them quickly.

The OEM Win10 bloatware/spyware also needs to be removed by going through all the "apps" and removing permissions for each one. Tedious. And only a start.

[Scott Douglas]

UPDATE!
He just called and is having problems with Facetime not working on the PC. (Duh, for me, but not him)
Seems only two students use Zoom, the others use Facetime. Go figure. I suggested Skype. No, she doesn't want to learn how to use it.
Her old iPad doesn't work well for Facetime. Why? I'm clueless.
I just suggested he get her a new iPad:

https://www.amazon.com/Apple-iPad-10-2-Inch-Wi-Fi-32GB/dp/B07XL7G4HH/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=ipad+tablets&qid=1587058126&sr=8-3

Not sure what he is going to do though.

[Cajundaddy]

Like anything, you just gotta choose and commit to your choice. I use a Win machine for work due to required software, I use a 2009 Macbook Pro laptop for the bulk of my stuff at home and use ipad for travel/internet/music & photo editing/on location invoicing and billing.

Of the three the ipad is by far the easiest and most intuitive to use. It is iOS based and not Mac OSX so all of the apps are simple, no hidden menus, high functionality with low user sophistication needed. There are still some things you cannot do with an ipad that you can with a full featured laptop but for Zoom, facetime, internet browsing, basic photo or music editing and creation, it works pretty great. You can add a keyboard if needed or a mini USB drive for more storage and backup.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6BH_-m5-ZQ

Not for everyone but a lotta bang for the buck.

[berettafan]

Originally Posted by Seahawk

Now, if your Buddy is looking for a 1/2 ton truck...

Originally Posted by flipper35

Ridgeline!

I get it, suggesting a minivan with an open back to take the place of a truck since it's so different from what was requested.

Originally Posted by Scott Douglas

UPDATE!
He just called and is having problems with Facetime not working on the PC. (Duh, for me, but not him)

I just suggested he get her a new iPad:

And yet here we are, back at the Tundra/Ipad



You might THINK you want a cheap pos laptop or a glorified minivan but what you REALLY want-and will end up with- is a Tundra/Ipad-macbook!

[Scott Douglas]

Some people just can't be told what they need, they have to figure it out for themselves. It might help justify raising the budget too.

[stevej37]

And some...esp when older, hate the idea of changing to a different platform.
Can't blame them for that.

[Scott Douglas]

I suggested they make the students conform to what they wanted to use (Zoom) but he wouldn't go for that.