stimulus checks/ACA/owe IRS help please !!!
 

I apologize up front for the long post , what a mess I have . My wife and I are retired and have an ACA health plan/insurance . The plan we are on now is quite good , the one we were on last year SUCKED !!! Long story short my wife's ONE kidney stone ended up costing us $20,000.00 out of pocket for what the health insurance wouldn't cover .

So we dipped into our nest egg because that's what it is for along with buying toys :D . Anyway when we had our taxes done this year it turns out we owe $8,000.00 :mad: because we went over the 67K max you can make per ACA rules . Because ACA is subsidized by the government anything over 67K they want their sudsidy back . Unfortunately I did not know that ........... I know it now !

So in theory my wife and I qualify for each of us to receive a stimulus check , but we don't believe we will receive them because we owe the IRS . I " think " our checks will go to pay down our balance does anyone know if that is correct ? Because of the pandemic payment to the feds has been pushed back to July . How can I find out between now and then if my " owed " balance is less than the 8K ? Just rough numbers two stimulus checks @ 1200.00 = 2400.00 , subtract 2400.00 from 8K we should owe aprox. 5600.00 . But how to confirm this ? I'm not sure a call to the IRS is wise if you know what I mean :D . Help from the smart folks please ;)

They just today added a 'find my stimulus refund' area to the IRS site.
It's at www.irs.gov

In watching the daily Presidential updates in the last couple of weeks, it seems to me that at one time, someone (Mnuchin) had said that people will receive a stimulus without regard to whether they owe taxes or not.

My good friend owes back child support from 25 years ago......Attachments on his thru IRS means he's out of luck on this.......

^^^ Stevej37 YOU DA MAN !!! :D Thanks that is a great way to start . SmileWavy

This is what you see if you don't qualify, since I owe this year...

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No. He wins because he owes less to the family he stiffed than before. The winners are the family he left high and dry.

To the OP.

The stimulus check is separate from any tax liability. You will receive it based on your processed tax filing from 2018 if you have not filed yet for 2019. It is based on your AGI, and is not deducted from any outstanding tax liability. This is not a tax refund. It is a stimulus which is intended to be spent by the recipient.

OK so I go on the gov website yesterday and it's overwhelmed so I try again this morning . I put in my basic info and I get a message that I am due the payment . Great . So then we go deeper into the weeds and they want more details and I provide those details . Hit enter and an error message stating info doesn't match their records :mad: . It suggests if you are using recent tax info ( I was ) to use 2018 so I did . Received the same error message then they timed me out :confused: and stated try again in 24 hours .

Our bank info has not changed and my wife collects SS so they have at least her info she's going to try the website today and see what it say's for her . Fun times we're going to be put through the wringer just to turn around and hand it back to the feds :( .

I had the same results. Gave up for the time being.
Then this morning I read on yahoo news that four or five of the major tax preparers are being blocked for some reason (temporarily) H&R...which I used, is one of them. I'll look for the story and post a link if I find it.

Here it is...
https://www.businessinsider.com/stimulus-checks-delays-coronavirus-million-people-tax-prep-services-turbotax-2020-4

'Consumer-law expert Vijay Raghavan told The Post the hiccup occurred because the IRS did not have direct-deposit information for people if they got an advance on their tax refund or if they had their tax prep fee pulled out of their refund.'

I think the second part of that is what happened to me. I remember walking out without paying on the spot for my return filing.

Last year we received a federal tax refund that was direct deposited into our checking account so they have the info . Or at least they should . Nothing has changed since then............ Except this year we had H&R Block do our taxes . But if I use the previous years tax filing info I still get the error message . It's frustrating that the error message doesn't specify what the error is just that there is one .

"or if they had their tax prep fee pulled out of their refund."

Did they do this? I have used H&R the last four years...direct bank deposit each year. But this year I must have had the fee covered by the refund.

Good article but I didn't see a solution . If the H&R Block filing is the issue and we don't know for sure that it is will it self correct ? Or do I continue to hit the gov website until I get some indication that all is good ? Thoughts ?

Apparently, the deal is that if you paid someone to do your taxes, and allowed them to deduct their payment from your refund instead of just writing them a check when they did it, then the money was actually sent from the IRS to the folks that did your return, and then the middle man sent the rest of the money to you after they deducted their fee.

I been using turbotax for years, but the e-file is always free, and the money comes directly to us. We've already gotten our money.

I'm going to give it some time. I would first maybe try calling H&R to see what they say...might be faster.

No last year we had an independent tax preparer do our taxes and we paid him outside of the refund.

No last year we had an independent tax preparer do our taxes and we paid him outside of the refund.

post#13...they're referring to the latest years filing. (H&R)

This year we paid H&R Block by check there was no refund ........ we owe 8K !!!

^^^ That's the problem then. They're looking at that with no bank info

You might be able to speed it up by adding the bank info..otherwise it'll come by a check.

The good part is...if you wait for a check, you'll get one with Trumps pic on it.:eek:

edit: I thought it was his pic..but it's only his signature. oh well

As I thought about this some more I agree this is the issue . But the info is there from the previous year but maybe they don't check for previous year ? I guess I will play around on the website with my info and my wife's and see if we can get the error message cleared up . If not then we wait for checks . I feel better just having the website clarify that I qualify for the payment . You guys are great thanks for the feedback/advice .

I don't see that as a positive 😁

We couldn't get H&R Block on the phone so we sent an email . Our preparer confirmed we do qualify for $2400.00 stimulus check and the IRS will go back to previous year to find our data . So if they do that they will see all the info they need to deposit into our checking .

I guess if for any reason the IRS can't find our bank info they will send a paper check as last resort . So for now we wait . I will update if/when we receive results . Thanks again guys 😊

Dont bet on that. I did my taxes and used direct deposit both this year (filed in March), and also 2019...both years used the same bank info. Both years I owed, so I don't know if that makes a difference, but when I went to the IRS site it found me, but said it did not have my bank info.

I was able to enter my bank info but it has now been several days and every time I check it, it always says "We have your bank info and once we know your payment date, we will post that information here"

Don't know if I missed the first wave or payments but still got nothing and they had my bank info the whole time.:confused:

I believe the issue is that they are only looking for info on your most recent return.

If you already filed in 2019 and did not provide direct deposit info for whatever reason, they are not looking further back.


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I did a paper check last year, and direct deposit this year. I barely recieved the overpayment for taxes this week. I fall in that catch 22 of recent filed taxes=no direct deposit. IRS stimulus portal is doa. I like free money like the rest of the schmucks, but if it's goverment. It takes time.

I read somewhere this am that if you file form SSA-1099 (for retired ss recipients) your check will be delayed to later in the month.
Dave

Minor update :D : This morning I went on the gov website and successfully added our bank info , confirmed by the website as a successful transaction . I will check the " status " of our refund next week to see what it say's .

^^^ I just now, did the same...went well.
Almost all the people/friends around here that I have talked to ...have not seen the bank deposit yet.

Steve that is interesting as ALL of my family members have received theirs . My two sons , my mother in law and my older brother . I'm the black sheep 😂

Hey everyone so this morning I decided to check the website and see if any progress . Unfortunately I still get a message stating they need my direct deposit info :( , you gotta love government efficiency :D . I don't believe there is much I can do other than wait .

When you're checking on the IRS website, what kind of address did you give? Did you include the "St" or "Dr" or whatever? What about apartments?

The site doesn't seem to recognize that either me or my wife exist, and I'm wondering if I'm just being stupid when trying to put information into the search. I also think the Feds hate us, they've had large (5 figure) returns where the "Find my Return" page has the money appear, disappear, pretend as if we never filed, then suddenly a check arrives several months later. WTF?

For me it worked either way. Drive or dr.
Mine came through today. The system give me the generic no go message, then one day it gave the eta and bank info. Portal is only updated every 24 hours.

I give our exact address as it appears on all documents and mail . I think/hope it's a timing issue on when our data will be updated on their end .

If filing as 'single' and your AGI is over 75K...they have said, it will not be sent in the first few waves of deposits. (because of reducing the payment)
I don't know what the amt. is for filing other than single...but that would be delayed also.

I haven't seen mine yet either...for that reason.

I just logged into the website and it now states we are owed the stimulus payment AND that it will be direct deposited to account *** which is the data we supplied the other day . The website states it is updated once a day and that it will eventually show our payment as being deposited . So we're making baby steps :D forward .