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javadog 04-23-2020 06:23 AM

https://talesofthecocktail.org/techniques/scientific-argument-never-shaking-your-gin/

stuartj 04-23-2020 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by mjohnson (Post 10835647)
Excellent. Dilution is critical as well - water is another important component of the cocktail that people overlook.

And as to cheap gin... I think Gordons makes a fine martini, and the bottle bounces when you drop it!

Gordons is our standard as well. Frankly, we find the subtleties of more exotic gins are better appreciated in a G&T (A new thread for tonics and botanicals?.....Everyone should have a jar of juniper berries shouldn't they?)

You're right about dilution- i was partially confusing with temperature, in that- when you crush the ice, good sized pieces are still desirable to provide mass that wont just melt away or produce a gin slushy, with increased surface area to cool the mix quickly - 10 secs in the shaker. I use the highly scientific method of a tea towel and rolling pin to deal with ice cubes. The fine crushed ice goes in the sink. Ive always thought if the mix comes out cloudy, its too long in the shaker and "bruised"- but we like Martinis very cold- a factor that seems, i thought from experience, to make using really exotic gins in a Martini pointless....

Im now contemplating Java's article pointing to shaking rather than what Ive always thought- temperature





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Originally Posted by wdfifteen (Post 10835665)
What is “bruised gin?” I put mine in a shaker and shake the hell out of it. I like the little slivers of broken ice. What am I doing to the gin that’s so bad?




wdfifteen 04-24-2020 01:54 AM

I'll try stirring and see if I can tell a difference. Good gin may be wasted on me.

vash 04-24-2020 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by wdfifteen (Post 10837171)
I'll try stirring and see if I can tell a difference. Good gin may be wasted on me.

it would be interesting to get a good bartender to make it exactly the same except one shaken and one stirred.

i'm with you. my taste-buds are less scalpel, more AXE.

javadog 04-24-2020 07:36 AM

Be careful which one you decide to drink first. Your cognitive ability to evaluate the second one is likely to be fairly impaired.

I never understood the three martini lunch. After three martinis, I'd be napping on the floor, getting in people's way.

911 Rod 04-24-2020 08:39 AM

Now you are talking me!
Stemless martini glass.
Vodka or gin.
Wet and dirty!
Hot pepper stuffed olives or just regular ones with the pit still in.
Everything lives in the freezer other than the vermouth.

vash 04-24-2020 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by javadog (Post 10837533)
Be careful which one you decide to drink first. Your cognitive ability to evaluate the second one is likely to be fairly impaired.

I never understood the three martini lunch. After three martinis, I'd be napping on the floor, getting in people's way.


i'll eat a cheeto to cleanse the palatte. you know, for science.

i'll order two at once. then take a sip from each, then let the hot chick next to me have the rest of one.

three martini would have me singing karaoke.

wdfifteen 04-24-2020 10:48 AM

I'm probably going to hell for this, and as a martini traditionalist I should have to buy my own ticket.

But

Last night I was looking in the fridge for the olives and came across a jar of pepperoncinis. In a moment of weakness ... yes. I did it.... It wasn't really so bad.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1587754005.jpg

wdfifteen 04-24-2020 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by vash (Post 10837717)
i'll eat a cheeto to cleanse the palatte.

Traditional martini etiquette requires an unbruised Tater Tot. But a cheeto or a mouthfull of Doritos and Oreos would do in a pinch. Science, don't ya know...

David 04-27-2020 10:24 AM

Shall we discuss Gibsons now?

vash 04-27-2020 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by David (Post 10842071)
Shall we discuss Gibsons now?

whats a Gibson?

livi 04-27-2020 10:42 AM

For the contemporary man on the move; just grab the gin bottle and hoist a mouthful down the throat and you are on your way.

David 04-27-2020 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by vash (Post 10842109)
whats a Gibson?

Replace the olive with a cocktail onion. Surprisingly big change in flavor.

mjohnson 04-27-2020 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by vash (Post 10842109)
whats a Gibson?

I'll lower the bar a bit more.

Gimlet. Not one of those fancy modern pinkie-out kind. The traditional...

2:1 with Roses Lime - it does need to be "fresh" Roses though. Not skanky shelf-rot.

Though for the fancy, a daiquiri-like (2:1:1) sour with gin in place of rum is mighty tasty!

Bill Douglas 04-27-2020 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by livi (Post 10842114)
just grab the gin bottle and hoist a mouthful down the throat .

I like Gin. Everyone has to learn a least something from their parents, but just about all the above advice would be so much more palatable if vodka was swapped in instead of the gin.

vash 04-29-2020 01:45 PM

i ordered a pair of martini glasses. just trying two and will get more if they are nice enough.

i went old school and decided on a non traditional glass in the Nick and Nora style.

i'll hit up the liquor store for proper gin and vermouth later, when the stem ware gets here.

javadog 04-29-2020 02:26 PM

Nick and Nora style... I had to look that up....

911 Rod 04-30-2020 05:06 AM

I prefer the stemless. Stacks easily in the freezer and less likely to knock the 2nd or 3rd one over.

vash 04-30-2020 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by 911 Rod (Post 10845926)
I prefer the stemless. Stacks easily in the freezer and less likely to knock the 2nd or 3rd one over.


but your hand will warm the drink!

911 Rod 04-30-2020 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by vash (Post 10846180)

but your hand will warm the drink!

I'm anti social and the drink is sitting beside me. :D


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