Does anyone actually miss table service?

[onewhippedpuppy]

Originally Posted by KC911

^^^ Turn off, get out, and drink up

Amen brother!

[jcommin]

Originally Posted by speeder

Hell yes, I do. Depends where you are but in L.A., I eat out all the time. In Minneapolis, not as much, (though they have a few great restaurants), in rural Wisconsin, not at all. Actually, I amend that...in Madeline Island in Lake Superior, (WI.), there is exactly one good restaurant and it’s a banger. Some great chef moved there and opened her own place. It’s sublime.

There is no reason to go out for average food, you can make it better at home and it’s cheaper. I recently had a close friend owe me $50 for something I did for him, I told him that I don’t need the $50, how ‘bout you take me out for a steak dinner? He thought it was a great idea and being who he is, he took me to the best rated steak house we could find on a quick search. Arroyo Chop House in Pasadena for locals. Holy balls was it good....cost a little more than $50 a head but he had the Wagu, ($120), I had the NY Prime and a Caesar salad made table side.

I’ll remember that meal for a long time and I eat out constantly. Sometimes, it’s all about the experience.

Right on Speeder! I love to cook, my mom was a great cook. My family has been it the food business and I think I know it well enough. I don't go out to restaurants for food that I can cook at home.

When I do go out to eat, it is probably for something that is different or something I wouldn't do at home. My dinner bills tend to be more expensive. The last time I went out to eat was March 13th (Friday). Everything has change since - including me. My attitude on dining will change. I'm almost certain restaurants (those that remain standing) will change too. With margins at 5%-6% - reduced seating capacity and more take out - menus and the experience will change. I'm no fan of take out.

What is starting to happen in Chicago (and I'm sure elsewhere) is restaurants shutting down in dine service and become grocery stores which include pre-packed meals with cooking instructions. In is an interesting model.

[Tobra]

Caesar salad is pretty straightforward to make. Lemon breaks up the anchovies, then garlic and olive oil, a little Dijon mustard. Use a couple of forks to tear up the anchovies. I don't like anchovy paste, prefer the fillets. Boil some water and put the egg in bowl of hot water while you are doing the rest. Put the egg in last and it is about right, sort of half ass starts to cook the white, gives a better consistency.

I will use half a lemon sometimes, but I get pretty big lemons. 2-3 fillets, about a teaspoon of dijon. Too much mustard is not what you are after, like 2/3-3/4 t. Get the anchovies pretty torn up with just the lemon, then the garlic, sort of crush it with a fork. Egg goes in last, whisk it all with your forks, toss in the romaine, parmesan cheese it up and plate it

It is all about the proportions. Time for you to plant some lettuce and practice Shaun. It is only too cheesy and lemony if you make it that way. Half a lemon will do the job turning the fish to tiny pieces, the acid don't you know.

[speeder]

Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy

Things would be a lot more civil and rational if people turned off the news and actually sought out some realistic information, and also STFU about the situation of others. NYC has a legitimate issue, but the vast majority of the USA does not, especially the Midwest. I posted about having a dinner out on Monday night in accordance with all state and local guidelines that quickly devolved into a CV pissing contest, with people accusing me of being careless and irrational. Unless you live here you don’t know the local situation, just like I won’t profess your know what it’s like to live in NYC right now. What I can say is that in Wichita we have very few deaths, that violent crime is through the roof, and that medical facilities are closing and medical professionals have been furloughed due to lack of work. My firefighter and cop friends tell me this is the worst they’ve ever seen it, CV isn’t a concern but the nightly violence is. Of the 5 medical professionals in my extended family, 1 is on furlough, 3 are on reduced hours, and 1 is still working normal hours in a hospital but is bored out of her mind. Meanwhile the urgent care clinic around the corner from my house just closed because nobody was going. But if you watch the news they are still beating the panic drum with all of their might.

Back to the topic at hand, I can’t wait for my wife and I to resurrect our Friday sushi lunch tradition this week! I’ll probably try to go grab a beer somewhere tonight, just because.

I'd love to know where you suggest people get "realistic information" that does not come from news reporting?

Anecdotal stories from people you know who also don't read? I'm really searching here...

As for violent crime being, "through the roof," where you live, that is strange. It is way, WAY down in Los Angeles and NYC...no one is out on the streets other than joggers. It is exactly the opposite of what you describe; cops are bored and medical professionals are working double shifts. Hospitals are an absolute nightmare, w doctors and nurses getting sick and sometimes dying.

Two of the biggest and most common logical fallacies, (seen constantly in these CV threads), are moving from the specific to the general and the general to the specific. I'll skip the Latin names because it's been a while since college.

Your personal experience in a small city in Kansas that apparently no one ever travels to from other places is irrelevant to what's going on in the country and the world right now. It is reflective of nothing and should be disregarded in terms of national Public Health policy. There is a pandemic killing people and we are in the 2nd inning of it, not out in the parking lot trying to find our car after the game. It is extremely contagious and it will make it to your small town if it hasn't yet.

I am in rural Northern WI., which makes Witchita, KS. look like NYC and I am concerned because the meatheads here are acting like nothing is happening. They must believe some POS on the AM radio telling them that it's a liberal conspiracy because no precautions are being taken from the majority of people I see. It is NOT a matter of each person deciding for themselves how much risk to assume because other people's lives are at stake. One ass hole who is asymptotic and refuses to wear a mask in public can infect dozens of other people and kill a few.

I know that it's too much to ask for you and many others to make any sacrifice for the common good, you act as if forgoing a beer w friends at a bar is the equivalent of storming the beach at Normandy. I was under lockdown in L.A. since early March and it was not tough at all, a minor annoyance. Boring. A small sacrifice for what we're trying to accomplish. Everyone I know feels the same way, other than the random conspiracy theory, Breitbart reading weirdos.

I hope that your luck stays good and you don't get sick but I hope much more that you don't spread it and make someone else sick. This is a weird period in history and is very revealing of Americans.

[vash]

Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy

I’ll probably try to go grab a beer somewhere tonight, just because.

now im bummed. i am not a big drinker, but i do love hanging with friends and coworkers for a beer. super fun, and a great way to work vent.

we have a regular bar. the bartender has this hot Tina Fey vibe going. glasses, ripping body, and an awesome attitude. we call her the "Librarian"..so we have a code. "meet you at the Library" funny thing, my boss ALWAYS beats me there.

i hope she is still there when they throw the Library doors open.

jealous Matt

[onewhippedpuppy]

Denis you already helped get the other positive thread about eating out get locked, go be pretentious somewhere else. You can have your choice about threads on which to argue this topic. I’ll withhold my response on your post until I feel motivated to beat my head against the wall in one of those other threads.

[speeder]

Originally Posted by vash

now im bummed. i am not a big drinker, but i do love hanging with friends and coworkers for a beer. super fun, and a great way to work vent.

we have a regular bar. the bartender has this hot Tina Fey vibe going. glasses, ripping body, and an awesome attitude. we call her the "Librarian"..so we have a code. "meet you at the Library" funny thing, my boss ALWAYS beats me there.

i hope she is still there when they throw the Library doors open.

jealous Matt

Everyone misses going out but it's been 2 months, not 7 years in a POW camp, for chrissakes. I want to go to Mpls. and hug my aunt and 2 cousins who have survived Covid after being deathly ill for weeks or fly to Italy and be w my sister who is battling it now. But I can't. Boo-hoo. My heart just bleeds for people being denied going to sports bars in order to save some lives right now.

[Tobra]

Grow TF up Denis

[!pse203]

Originally Posted by speeder

Everyone misses going out but it's been 2 months, not 7 years in a POW camp, for chrissakes. I want to go to Mpls. and hug my aunt and 2 cousins who have survived Covid after being deathly ill for weeks or fly to Italy and be w my sister who is battling it now. But I can't. Boo-hoo. My heart just bleeds for people being denied going to sports bars in order to save some lives right now.

I miss sports more than sports bars.

Always loved eating out with friends and fam - not having to worry about the next course or the dishes...

[Shaun @ Tru6]

Originally Posted by Tobra

It is all about the proportions. Time for you to plant some lettuce and practice Shaun. It is only too cheesy and lemony if you make it that way. Half a lemon will do the job turning the fish to tiny pieces, the acid don't you know.

No growing things for me. I tried to create a habanero and yellow pepper hybrid to have all of the habanero flavor but less heat. All of my plants died before I could cross-pollinate them.

I do make a great caesar dressing playing off the anchovy and lemon more than anything. Same with Portuguese sardine sandwiches: dijon, lot of lemon, sardines and red onion. Perfect.

[aigel]

I thought the OP was about being waited on. That's something I don't find terribly exciting and I don't miss it either. If anything it makes me feel bad hiring out something that simple, like having a cleaning service or a guy mow my lawn. I know there are people that specifically like the "being waited on". It can make sense if you have one person in the household that takes the brunt of cooking and cleaning and they can get a break for once!

We do miss the family restaurant we hit up every couple months. Going for curbside pick up is not an option - but not for the lack of service rather than missing the rest of the ambiance and having to eat lukewarm food out of boxes.

G

[KFC911]

Nuthin' pisses me off like a server tryin' to increase their tip

[onewhippedpuppy]

I’m also not a fan of curbside pickup, but think of it as helping the restaurants you love stay alive. Also a way of helping support an entire industry full of people who are struggling like hell right now. I typically leave 50-100% tips when doing pickup, I’m still employed and feel that giving a little extra is the right thing to do.

[KFC911]

I tipped more at a drive through than my meal cost the other day....ditto on the take-outs....they think I suck at maf sometimes

[flipper35]

For us, takeout means a 15 to 20 minute drive home with the food. Some can be reheated OK, others not so much. We do have a bar and grill 1/2 mile away that has good prime rib sandwiches. The fries are meh.

[stevej37]

I typically tip at least 110%

[RWebb]

Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy

Denis you already helped get the other positive thread about eating out get locked, go be pretentious somewhere else. You can have your choice about threads on which to argue this topic. I’ll withhold my response on your post until I feel motivated to beat my head against the wall in one of those other threads.

you should've withheld your original post...

did it not occur to you that others would respond?

BTW, my response is that your governor messed up - assuming arguendo that your post was correct but it may well not be

[RWebb]

I agree with the social interaction posts above.

I don't see steaks as particularly difficult to cook at home - or to procure high end meat (aged, Waygu, etc.) but maybe you guys lack good butcher shops?

Reasons to eat out other than social include:
- too lazy to cook
- very difficult foods to cook at home or in small amts.
- want a 5 course French meal, etc.

[KFC911]

Originally Posted by stevej37

I typically tip at least 110%

When I go to them hoity-toity, fancy-schmancy places....I tip at least 300%...

I like H2O in a nice glass

[stevej37]

^^^ Hey...the rules are you can't raise over 10%