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vash 05-06-2020 07:02 AM

imagine this tiny 4x4 in the USA.
 
no..we get murder wasp, but not this!!

the modifications some guy would come up with would be amazing i imagine. i think this is the new iteration of the old Suzuki Samurai?

not sure about the name. the Jimny.

haha.

i love it.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1588777286.jpg

onewhippedpuppy 05-06-2020 07:07 AM

Looks like a mini G-wagen, I’d drive it!

vash 05-06-2020 07:09 AM

i actually looked into a G-wagon. G stands for "gulp". that was the response when i looked into aftermarket parts.

craigster59 05-06-2020 07:09 AM

You can get one of these. Not street legal...

https://www.roxoroffroad.com

vash 05-06-2020 07:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by craigster59 (Post 10853788)
You can get one of these. Not street legal...

https://www.roxoroffroad.com

wow. a turnkey rock crawler. hmmm..now to buy a tow vehicle. :)

again. i wish i pooped cold hard cash.

Crowbob 05-06-2020 07:16 AM

Jimny is the non-US name for Samurai which is no longer sold in the US due to a 1988 Consumer’s Report indicating the Samurai was at unacceptably high risk for roll overs. It effectively killed sales never to return. Suzuki sued in 1996 and after 8 years (2004) it was settled by mutual consent (dismissed without compensatory findings) out of court.

Subsequently Suzuki began selling them branded as a Sidekick or Vitara depending on the market.

The aftermarket for Samurais is enormous. An unmolested Samurai is becoming very, very rare. However, on the highway they are like driving a tin-can.

Crowbob 05-06-2020 07:20 AM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1588778416.jpg

stevej37 05-06-2020 07:20 AM

What's the reason for the backward N?

Crowbob 05-06-2020 07:31 AM

At the time of the CR issue, Samurais were outselling Jeeps by as much as 4 to 1 in some places. This is a 100% original 1987 save for the seats which are third row stow-and-go seats from a Dodge Town and Country van.http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1588779105.jpg

craigster59 05-06-2020 07:34 AM

Where's notfarnow, he should be all over a Samurai thread!

Crowbob 05-06-2020 07:47 AM

Roxors made by Mahindra who is being sued by FCA (Fiat Chrysler) for “trade dress” infringement, the Roxor essentially being a Jeep CJ clone. An Administrative Law Judge (ALJ) in November, 2019 issued a cease and desist order to Mahindra to stop sales. Mahindra appears to have ignored the order.

Lawsuit is pending.

Skytrooper 05-06-2020 07:55 AM

I owned 2 Samurai's . One a white hard top like the blue one pictured above, and a dark blue soft top. I loved the things. When it needed a clutch, I dropped the transmission without a jack. It was so small you can do it by hand. Axle seals....piece of cake. Everything was easy. I dorve 52 miles round trip on the highway every weekday. Yeah, 65 is pretty much top speed unless going down a long hill. You learn to drive in the right lane. so all the others can drive what ever speed they want. No speeding tickets. Off-road, it was a beast. I could go so many places that the bigger boys could only dream of. The Samurai was a great little vehicle.

IROC 05-06-2020 08:08 AM

Lots of stuff like that in Japan. I took this pic in Katsuta in February:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1588781139.jpg

I'm a big Land Cruiser fan and I bet every LC saw (mostly 60s and 80s) were modified. It seems like anyone who wants to go to the trouble to own something like that in Japan is the kind of person who is going to enjoy it and modify the crap out of it. :)

Dantilla 05-06-2020 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crowbob (Post 10853849)
... the Roxor essentially being a Jeep CJ clone.

I looked at one closely at a fair last year.
A very poorly-made Jeep knock-off with a minor change to the grille.
Asked the sales dude about if it's street legal. "They're working on it".
It is such a piece of crap I can't see it ever getting DOT approval without a major redesign.

Absolutely no advantage over a Jeep, plenty of disadvantages.
To informed consumers, sales should be..... Zero.

sammyg2 05-06-2020 08:21 AM

Not cool unless it's painted like a zebra in the back yard ;)

Bill Douglas 05-06-2020 11:35 AM

A friend has one on order. each one is made up to the customers spec's. this will be his third Suzuki 4x4. He loved the other ones. With their short wheel base they can get to places other bigger ones can't. He said they also make good vehiles for getting about town in.

craigster59 05-06-2020 11:44 AM

Those Suzuki Sidekick JLX's seem like a decent vehicle. Were they a precursor to the Vitara? Also I think Geo Trackers were a Suzuki offspring.

Skytrooper 05-06-2020 11:45 AM

I saw the Jimny in the UK 2 years ago. I would rather have a Jimny than a Roxor. Not that I have anything against Mahindra ( I have a very nice Mahindra tractor that I have been beating the snot out of for over ten years...without a single issue), I just like the Suzuki better.

stevej37 05-06-2020 01:24 PM

Nobody knows why the N is backwards?
There must be a reason why.

herr_oberst 05-06-2020 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevej37 (Post 10854309)
Nobody knows why the N is backwards?
There must be a reason why.

Lower case, in sort of a stylized cursive font.

(My typography background is telling me that there's too much space between the m and the n, too.)

herr_oberst 05-06-2020 03:16 PM

Rockcrawlers really like those Samurai's -

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1588806964.jpg

wayner 05-06-2020 04:45 PM

I've driven vehicles like that suzuki all over the world from cuba to asia. They are quite popular.
If Landrovers used th be safari vehicle but now or for going out to a fancy dinner, then Kia and suzuki simple 4x4s are the new safari vehicles.

I just got back from driving one in the wilds of Africa with my new girl.
Im not sure if I was safer inside or outside the vehicle...;)

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1588812270.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1588812309.jpg

vash 05-07-2020 08:00 AM

i had the distinct honor if finding a driver in Cambodia that couldnt hold liquor. he got buzzed. i just wanted to drive.

i offered to drive. he pointed out directions (go around the elephant pulling rebar to ironworkers)

it was a diesel Hilux. i spent the entire drive imagining it with an Ikon suspension lift, better bumpers, lighting, a winch, and sliders, 33" tires. the thing was a torquey little thing.

as it sits, they look so anemic. like a honda pickup truck.

Won 05-07-2020 11:23 AM

Do want one! Last I heard, there was a 2 year waiting list for UK delivery. What's worse, Suzuki would have to significantly reduce the sales figure in order to meet the new fleet emissions average... So beyond the first year of waiting, they couldn't promise when you would actually receive your car! Not sure how much of that is true, but people were indeed selling low mileage ones at 25% over the sticker price, so the demand is definitely there.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1588879372.jpg

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Jims5543 05-07-2020 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vash (Post 10853774)
no..we get murder wasp, but not this!!

the modifications some guy would come up with would be amazing i imagine. i think this is the new iteration of the old Suzuki Samurai?

not sure about the name. the Jimny.

haha.

i love it.

I used to own a Suzuki Samurai back when they were new. It was a fun little car that was gutless on the road. Terminal velocity on the highway was 65-70MPH, if you could draft a 18 wheeler then you could go as fast as they went.

When we were in St. Lucia last year I rented one to drive around, I wanted a new one, you get what they give you, so I got the previous generation. On the right in this pic. It was good to see nothing changed, I moved out to pass someone, floored it.... and nothing happened, I had a flashback to my Samurai days.

For scooting around? It was a neat little car, would I own one? Maybe if the price was right.

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-...-sxkGZgx-L.jpg

JeremyD 05-07-2020 12:01 PM

https://www.wholesaleatv.com/products/new-1000cc-bms-the-beast-1000-4s-4x4-4-seater-utv?variant=31714926395488&cmp_id=9314079545&adg_i d=96903097089&kwd=&device=c&gclid=CjwKCAjw4871BRAj EiwAbxXi2_IXr1pP2-He-xYaIBYaakBUVdBWe8E_bUFIPMq3Ymz3ztOZiV_NIxoCPTcQAvD _BwE

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/00...g?v=1578860340

latunabernie 05-07-2020 12:37 PM

I had a 1987 Samurai for about 8 years.
When I purchased it, I did a timing belt, all hoses, fluids and tires.
I drove it very hard. The little 1.3 loved to rev.
It was pretty bulletproof only needed a alternator & u joints in 8 years.
It would haul ass going down hills in 5th.
With any incline you would put it in 4th & keep it floored.
My wife hated it she never felt safe in it.
She said it's "Perfect for 3rd. world countries."
Very awesome vehicle off road.
Sold it in 1 day on Craig List for 4 times I paid for it. in November 2019.
It served it's purpose.
I don't miss it, Replaced it with a 2005 987 Boxster.

Bernie

wildthing 05-07-2020 08:14 PM

I'd love it if I were into off-roading. These have been available in the Philippines for some time (the Samurai before Jimny) and was able to drive one, but not off-road.

CurtEgerer 01-16-2024 07:07 AM

Reviving this thread because I'm thinking about a Samurai/Jimny. Seem to be a lot of them for sale around here. Also, lots of 'newer' ones on carsfromjapan.com that were never sold here. I could buy up to a 1998, but RHD would be a PITA. I drove one for a week as a loaner many years ago and thought it was a blast. They seem to be between $8500 and $15,000 for good ones. Here's a few I've come across FS:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1705421059.jpg


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1705421059.jpg


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1705421059.jpg


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1705421059.jpg

Captain Ahab Jr 01-16-2024 07:30 AM

There are very few brand new cars I lust after but this is one of them

I'm sure it's tiny stature is lost on the American market but on smaller UK/European roads away from freeway's this is such a capable all year round go any where car

Has a big cult following too, how about a Lancia Delta Integrale body kit for the WRC rally car look

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1705422593.jpg

speeder 01-16-2024 07:57 AM

Curt, I think that the owner of the white one above might have Armoralled the tread on his tires. I guess that's one way to do a burnout in a Samarai. :)

Tobra 01-16-2024 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevej37 (Post 10854309)
Nobody knows why the N is backwards?
There must be a reason why.

Same reason Toys R Us did it

herr_oberst 01-16-2024 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Ahab Jr (Post 12172475)
There are very few brand new cars I lust after but this is one of them

I'm sure it's tiny stature is lost on the American market but on smaller UK/European roads away from freeway's this is such a capable all year round go any where car

Has a big cult following too, how about a Lancia Delta Integrale body kit for the WRC rally car look

It's not the small size that bothers me about that car, it's the fact that it's a Lancia, a brand that has a pretty poor reputation in America. I can imagine breaking down 500 miles from home in that and trying to find parts and a repair facility in the middle of Montana. Alfa, Lancia, Peugeot, SAAB enthusiasts - I admire their dedication. Those cars are for people who aren't bothered by layer upon layer of inconvenience, and are rewarded with a driving experience few of us will know.

CurtEgerer 01-16-2024 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by speeder (Post 12172500)
Curt, I think that the owner of the white one above might have Armoralled the tread on his tires. I guess that's one way to do a burnout in a Samarai. :)

LMAO. Wasn't there an epic thread way, way back about somebody who armor-alled their treads and crashed or something .....

Capt Ahab! Yes. I like that (where's the other 1/2 of the pic tho?). And I think the OZ rally wheels might even be the ticket on a Samurai :cool:

CurtEgerer 01-16-2024 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by herr_oberst (Post 12172575)
It's not the small size that bothers me about that car, it's the fact that it's a Lancia, a brand that has a pretty poor reputation in America. I can imagine breaking down 500 miles from home in that and trying to find parts and a repair facility in the middle of Montana. Alfa, Lancia, Peugeot, SAAB enthusiasts - I admire their dedication. Those cars are for people who aren't bothered by layer upon layer of inconvenience, and are rewarded with a driving experience few of us will know.

Is it a Lancia or a modification kit for a Samurai/Jimny to give it a Lancia Delta Integrale grille and maybe roof spoiler?

CurtEgerer 01-16-2024 10:00 AM

The Capt is probably off doing F1 stuff or something instead of focusing his priorities here ;) So a quick search shows that Damd is a Japanese tuner who does all sorts of body kits for the Jimny. I like the Bronco theme.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1705431530.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1705431547.jpg

Lancia Delta Integrale and Renault 5 Turbo themes:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1705431562.jpg

CurtEgerer 01-16-2024 10:09 AM

'Non-Turbo'. :cool:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1705432137.jpg

Bill Douglas 01-16-2024 10:18 AM

They are quite slow. A 1500cc engine and they don't like cruising at much more than 60mph. Good for around town and off roading.

Captain Ahab Jr 01-16-2024 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CurtEgerer (Post 12172606)

Sorry Curt, was busy on F1, busy on trying to win the 2026 championships :D

Renault 5 turbo look is great but I prefer the Lancia Delta

Dixie 01-16-2024 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevej37 (Post 10854309)
Nobody knows why the N is backwards?
There must be a reason why.

Because you can't trademark common names and words.


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