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stevej37 05-21-2020 12:40 PM

Size matters...with turtles!
 
In my backyard pond...I built a feeding platform for the turtles. Turtles can't digest food unless they are in the water. The feed station has a plexi-glass roof over it to keep the food dry. When they are hungry..they climb the ramp, pick-up the pellets and freeze-dried shrimp and take it back to the pond to digest.
The biggest turtle (female) has learned to situate herself to block the others from the food dish! She wants it all to herself. (see first pic)
The only thing that gets her out of the way is when she needs to get in the water to digest the food.....then there is a mad scramble by the other turtles to grab some food.
Fun to watch on a nice sunny day.
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The pond plants are just now starting to grow. Will post some pics when they are looking good.

KFC911 05-21-2020 01:20 PM

That's really nice! Seems to be missing just one thing ;)...

stevej37 05-21-2020 01:27 PM

Nope...it's fine the way it is. SmileWavy

nota 05-21-2020 02:30 PM

my two just eat the koi food and the odd dead fish plus pond bugs

stevej37 05-21-2020 02:42 PM

^^^ I don't know why...but mine won't touch the food pellets once they have been rained on.
The pellets have to be dry...hence the covering I placed over the food dish.
The fish eat anything I throw in...or anything the turtles excrete....yum!

BK911 05-21-2020 03:51 PM

That's pretty neat.
Where do the turtles go in the winter?

Bill Douglas 05-21-2020 04:04 PM

Looks like a pretty good fun pond setup.

RWebb 05-21-2020 04:11 PM

install a 2n feed stn.

see if the 2nd largest turtle blocks it

stevej37 05-21-2020 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by BK911 (Post 10874796)
That's pretty neat.
Where do the turtles go in the winter?

I have a plastic stock tank that the fish and turtles live in my garage.
They go dormant and won't even eat until moved back outside.
It takes one day of sunlight and they are back to normal.

stevej37 05-21-2020 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Douglas (Post 10874808)
Looks like a pretty good fun pond setup.

Thanks...very enjoyable on sunny days. Pics don't show but the deck surrounds the pond on three sides.

stevej37 05-21-2020 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RWebb (Post 10874820)
install a 2n feed stn.
see if the 2nd largest turtle blocks it

I could...but it's fun watching them 'battle it out' :)

JackDidley 05-21-2020 05:35 PM

Cool. I like the turtles for some reason. I move quite a few turtles out of the road in the summer.

GG Allin 05-21-2020 06:05 PM

I like turtles.

MBAtarga 05-21-2020 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by GG Allin (Post 10874993)
I like turtles.

Me too - they taste just like chicken!

Baz 05-21-2020 07:12 PM

That's a magnificent setup you have, Steve. Thanks for taking care of those precious ones!

LWJ 05-21-2020 08:45 PM

I may have a new COVID project now...

Super cool.

Alfasrule 05-22-2020 01:51 AM

Danica is a great pet. Me Box Turtle. Nice setup!

livi 05-22-2020 02:13 AM

Excellent. Love a pond.

Shaun @ Tru6 05-22-2020 02:41 AM

Very cool pond! We had box turtles in the yard and red ear turtles in the brook growing up. Used to sell them at tag sales.

Must be relaxing to sit and watch on a nice slow day.

And of course

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mattdavis11 05-22-2020 03:26 AM

Jon Reptilian, the Turtle King!

Nice pond!

wdfifteen 05-22-2020 06:13 AM

That turtle habitat is so cool. I don't know anyone else who does that.
Last thing I need is another hobby, but I would love to add turtles to our goldfish pond. It's 3 feet deep and the fish overwinter in it no problem. Would turtles overwinter in 3 feet of water?

KFC911 05-22-2020 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by wdfifteen (Post 10875410)
That turtle habitat is so cool. I don't know anyone else who does that.
Last thing I need is another hobby, but I would love to add turtles to our goldfish pond. It's 3 feet deep and the fish overwinter in it no problem. Would turtles overwinter in 3 feet of water?

My smallest pond has a breach in a side berm so there's not much water in it...in the 2-3' range. About three years ago I was walking around it during the middle of winter on a warmer day....saw a big shadowy movement....very sluggish. A big azz snapper was stirring around. He could have easily chosen to winter in one of my full, deeper ponds, but there he was. He was only mebbe 18"...not a whopper though ;).

stevej37 05-22-2020 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wdfifteen (Post 10875410)
That turtle habitat is so cool. I don't know anyone else who does that.
Last thing I need is another hobby, but I would love to add turtles to our goldfish pond. It's 3 feet deep and the fish overwinter in it no problem. Would turtles overwinter in 3 feet of water?


Thanks..the water in mine is two feet deep and after the winter snows fill it in...springtime it is one big 2 ft thick slab of ice. The reason being...I built the pond on top of my deck...so there is no ground heat. It's six sided with 6ft 2X4's lying flat stacked every other one with a 3/4 inch hole drilled in both ends. I inserted a 3/4" dowel in all 6 of the joints. Lined it with a rubber liner....and filled it with water. Also capped the top with a 1X6 to hide the liner.
When it is empty, with the liner out...it can be folded or reshaped to be like a bathtub shape or whatever wanted.

If it didn't entirely freeze..and there was mud at the bottom, the turtles would prob over-winter.
If I had Snappers...I'd definitely try it!:)

stevej37 05-22-2020 11:30 AM

This is a pic of how I joined the 2X4's. Every corner has a dowel going from top to bottom. No nails or screws used. The black is the liner.
It's about 10 years old...needs a re-finish. Mildew is showing.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1590175617.jpg

KFC911 05-22-2020 11:35 AM

That's impressive Steve....very cool! Oh yeah....my ponds don't freeze much except mebbe a light cover of ice on the smaller one when it's brutal. A nice flowing spring feeds them all one into another...

stevej37 05-23-2020 12:16 PM

Ethel reclaiming her position...size matters!
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Ethel says.."Hi..it's been a good day!"
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KFC911 05-23-2020 12:18 PM

Gomer sez HAY!

The sliders won't let me get near them anymore :D....

stevej37 05-23-2020 12:36 PM

Sliders know that Snappers are nothing but trouble.
They know to stay out of the bad side of town.:)

stevej37 05-23-2020 01:49 PM

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Jolly Amaranto 05-23-2020 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JackDidley (Post 10874967)
Cool. I like the turtles for some reason. I move quite a few turtles out of the road in the summer.

You learn real fast to hold them with their head toward you, tail away and way out at arms length or they will pee on you.

stevej37 05-23-2020 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Jolly Amaranto (Post 10877135)
You learn real fast to hold them with their head toward you, tail away and way out at arms length or they will pee on you.

It might be more of a release of all the water they retain while living underwater.
They prob don't 'hold their pee' while underwater.

Rodsrsr 05-23-2020 04:23 PM

Turtles are cool. I have a Box turtle and always wondered what would happen if he got flipped over. Well one day he was climbing a huge tree root and fell over. All he did was stick his head way out and used it to flip himself back. Took all of a few seconds. I'm not sure if this is something they all do, but I've seen him do it a few times and it seems to be his "go to" move.

stevej37 05-24-2020 12:15 PM

^^^ Where did you manage to get a box turtle?
Around here..they are almost never seen.
They aren't an aquatic turtle like my sliders? Is a pond required?

Bob Kontak 05-24-2020 12:39 PM

Pretty cool big one is smart enough to block the food.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MBAtarga (Post 10875062)
Me too - they taste just like chicken!

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stevej37 05-24-2020 01:12 PM

^^^ roast beef on a hard roll
funny..I'll bet it was crunchy!

Bob Kontak 05-24-2020 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by stevej37 (Post 10878034)
^^^ roast beef on a hard roll
funny..I'll bet it was crunchy!

I love his stupid ten minute jokes.

Rodsrsr 05-24-2020 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevej37 (Post 10877985)
^^^ Where did you manage to get a box turtle?
Around here..they are almost never seen.
They aren't an aquatic turtle like my sliders? Is a pond required?


The turtle was given to me and no they aren't aquatic but do really like to spend lots of time in a small water bowl. Something a few inches deep at most. If one happened to get into a pond I imagine it would just sink to the bottom and drown.

You basically need a large area with a good substrate, suitable shade/cover area and a place for him to basically soak where he can easily keep his head above water. They are pretty clever and can escape fairly easily too. I imagine you wouldn't see any up in the Mid-West, but I'm in Nor-Cal.

porsche930dude 05-24-2020 06:11 PM

found a painted turtle in the middle of the road today on the bike ride hes about the size of a quarter so took him home and put him in our pond he seems to like it swimming around with all the tadpoles. There was a a bigger one squished about 3" round he didnt make it. Theres a few big ponds up my road so they come out every year and the frogs too. One year there was millions of them everywhere tiny ones like 1/4" long.

stevej37 05-24-2020 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Rodsrsr (Post 10878246)
The turtle was given to me and no they aren't aquatic but do really like to spend lots of time in a small water bowl. Something a few inches deep at most. If one happened to get into a pond I imagine it would just sink to the bottom and drown.

You basically need a large area with a good substrate, suitable shade/cover area and a place for him to basically soak where he can easily keep his head above water. They are pretty clever and can escape fairly easily too. I imagine you wouldn't see any up in the Mid-West, but I'm in Nor-Cal.

OK..I see. One thing I've learned from having turtles is that they are very, very persistent.
My biggest female, when needing to lay eggs, will spend every minute of the day trying to dig a nesting area. They will not quit until they have succeeded.
I have tried (and failed) to hatch the eggs. Built a nesting area filled with sand...she layed a couple eggs...they never hatched.
I think it's mostly because of the wrong climate.

stevej37 05-24-2020 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porsche930dude (Post 10878277)
found a painted turtle in the middle of the road today on the bike ride hes about the size of a quarter so took him home and put him in our pond he seems to like it swimming around with all the tadpoles. There was a a bigger one squished about 3" round he didnt make it. Theres a few big ponds up my road so they come out every year and the frogs too. One year there was millions of them everywhere tiny ones like 1/4" long.


If there is a way out...he will escape.
I've done the same..tried to bring a turtle in from the wild. They spend every minute of the day trying to escape. The only ones that don't are those that have hatched in captivity. Good luck.


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