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Bob Kontak 05-25-2020 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by sc_rufctr (Post 10878440)
Great movie with an interesting plots twist at the end.
In their world you can't live outside because of the cold...

The train has to keep moving so the people on board have purpose.
Maybe there's more to it than that but that's what I got from the movie
.

I thought the John Glenn actor who ran the train explained the constant motion in the back half of the movie.

Looks like a revisit is in order.

The movie is worth another look see.

Bob Kontak 05-25-2020 03:46 PM

Classroom scene explains some. If the train stops they all freeze and die.

However, I think providing purpose is as good as any reason I've seen.

Por_sha911 05-25-2020 06:14 PM

OK, so why would they freeze when the train stops?

Crowbob 05-25-2020 07:44 PM

It's probably just me but I couldn't stay awake for all of Snowdriver or whatever it is. I thought the movie was stoopid.

Bob Kontak 05-26-2020 04:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Por_sha911 (Post 10879263)
OK, so why would they freeze when the train stops?

Engine stops generating heat.

It's a movie so I guess it can't idle.

Nursery school chant response when the teacher asks what if the train stops, "We all freeze and die"

That's what they taught them so is it true or not?

LEAKYSEALS951 05-26-2020 04:55 AM

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Originally Posted by sc_rufctr (Post 10878442)
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/fttI5Nmuc0Q" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Judging from the end of this clip (about 4:10 onwards), one can only assume (hope?)

THEY ALL DIED!!!!!!

Bob Kontak 05-26-2020 05:01 AM

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Originally Posted by LEAKYSEALS951 (Post 10879515)
Judging from the end of this clip (about 4:10 onwards), one can only assume (hope?)

THEY ALL DIED!!!!!!

They leave it a little bit open to interpretation at the end but my take was things looked pretty grim.

LEAKYSEALS951 05-26-2020 06:03 AM

Well: Coors Light Silver Bullet Train > Snowpiercer

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/8IZqRdznPs8" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

EDIT- On second thought, Coors light train IS snowpiercer. Everywhere Silver bullet train goes, snow falls. Left unchecked- runaway global cooling. Perhaps if they'd just STOP the train, the world would warm back up.

flipper35 05-26-2020 10:04 AM

I was not a fan of the movie so I guess the series is out too. If it is cold enough to freeze an arm solid to where you can break it off and 2 days later walk off the train?

Bob Kontak 05-26-2020 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by flipper35 (Post 10879801)
I was not a fan of the movie so I guess the series is out too.

It's clear you don't like anything Kim Jong-un directs.

Next you'll be dissin' Parasite.

ckcarr 05-26-2020 03:22 PM

The "Runaway Train" is a good movie though...

It's on Amazon Prime or Netflix right now...

Good old Rebecca, what ever happened to her?

flipper35 05-27-2020 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Bob Kontak (Post 10880052)
It's clear you don't like anything Kim Jong-un directs.

Next you'll be dissin' Parasite.

Actually, I was looking forward to seeing Parasite. :)

sc_rufctr 05-27-2020 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by ckcarr (Post 10880241)
The "Runaway Train" is a good movie though...

It's on Amazon Prime or Netflix right now...

Good old Rebecca, what ever happened to her?

She's still around and working in the industry.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1590602437.jpg

Bob Kontak 05-27-2020 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by flipper35 (Post 10881254)
Actually, I was looking forward to seeing Parasite. :)

You will like it. It's pretty funny in spots. Pretty dark as well.

Whatever mental picture you have of the plot from the trailer. Let it go.

Here's the nursery rhyme teacher in the Snowpiercer movie. I found this and gotta post it somewhere.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1590603540.jpg

Pazuzu 07-14-2020 08:55 PM

So, the season ended, did anyone else muscle through it? It became generic TV sci-fi drama, putting character into absurd scenarios just to create tension. Stupid people acting stupidly, and generally forgetting that the entirety of humanity exists in that train, and that *maybe* being helpful ans friendly to every single person no matter what might be the best way to keep our species alive, at least for a few more years? Instead, they went with greed, and hate, and lots of bloodshed, and generally acted like a train full of people who hated the train full of people.

cstreit 07-14-2020 09:49 PM

I thought I watched this movie 15 years ago?

MBAtarga 07-15-2020 06:55 AM

I watched the first 2 or 3 episodes, then realized it was going to be another one of those series that just continues on and on, until ratings drop and it ends.

Tobra 07-15-2020 08:57 AM

Why must the train be moving, because plot device.

McLovin 07-17-2020 08:47 PM

I just watched it. Very interesting.

Caution: Spoilers ahead.

I don’t know the director’s politics, I assume they are to the left (he did win an Oscar last year and I assume it’s a requirement these days), and yes it touches subjects of “inequality” “social justice,” etc., but not in ways you might think.

I think the film is subject to several interpretations, which makes it interesting. Also, keep in mind it was made around 2013, politically a lifetime ago. A “far left” person in 2013 would be considered a centrist today.

Anyways, the train is obviously symbolic of society. And yes, there are massive “inequalities” among the people in the train.

But why is that? It’s certainly not because of capitalism or democracy, both of which are completely non-existent in the train. The political and economic system in the train bear no resemblance to the US or similar Western democracies.

Instead, the political system in the train would seem closest to North Korea. It’s run by a Supreme Leader who is taught to be worshipped as a pseudo god.

There of course is nothing resembling any kind of democracy, elections or representative government.

People are told, over and over, that they are born into a “caste” (represented by the train they live in, and there is absolutely no hope of mobility.

None of that seems anti-capitalist, in fact it’s quite the opposite.

The film seems championed by the left, but I don’t get that. The society on the train is awful, but there’s no conservative principles at play there. In fact, it seems the opposite.

One example: The school. They show the elementary school being taught. Of course, the schools are highly used for political indoctrination and there is only one point of view taught or allowed. Sound familiar? (One of the dogmas is that you can never leave the train, because the climate will kill you. Teacher: “What happens if we go outside?” Students in cheerful unison: “We DIE!!” Which of course turn out at the end to not be true).

Oddly, the villainous Minister Mason character looked to me to be intentionally made to look like Ayn Rand, but if intentional that would make no sense at all.

The director is South Korean, I don’t think he’s spent much time in the US. I don’t know how much he knows or cares about US politics. South Koreans seems to have bigger things to worry about right next door.

Anyways, I liked it, it was interesting and IMO well made. Like Parasite, it has a quirky style and sense of humor mixed in.

McLovin 07-17-2020 08:52 PM

I of course am talking about the movie. I’ve read that the TV series is terrible.


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