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wdfifteen 06-04-2020 03:55 PM

Screw in the pool
 
No, not the good kind.

My pool cover dropped a 1" #8 self tapping, self drilling stainless steel crew into our above ground pool. First - I hate this fking pool. MrsWD wanted it, but she doesn't understand things like Ph or available chlorine or building a pool deck or basically anything about having a pool, but she wanted one and I would do anything for her so ...

I am so over the hours this fking thing takes out of my life. Over the course of the two years we've had it, between building a deck, and cleaning, and chemistry, and trying to get the water warm enough to actually use I've probably spend 10 hours working on it for every hour I (mostly reluctantly) spend in it. I don't like being wet and I don't like being cold so having a fking swimming pool in Ohio is basically a waste for me.
And now there is a fking screw lurking in the bottom, waiting to add to the time and money I waste on this damn thing as soon as someone steps on it and punches a hole in the liner.
First world problem, I know. I should just bulldoze it over the cliff and move on...

Evans, Marv 06-04-2020 04:08 PM

As a young guy working in construction, I worked on building pools and later on refinished some on the inside. Of course these were in the ground. From that time on I knew I'd never have a pool.

Chocaholic 06-04-2020 04:12 PM

Had an in ground pool for four years. It’s 90% of the reason I sold that house and moved. No need to add to WD’s comments but my experience was much the same. A constant PITA. Between fishing out dead critters, leaves, chemistry, equipment....no way. Never again.

Bulldozer is a good plan.

Bob Kontak 06-04-2020 04:13 PM

July 7th until August 14th. You should know the Ohio swimming season by now.

See the crib with the pool? That was mine. 1,900 miles north of you in Akron.

I spent more time on that pig than the 911.

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wdfifteen 06-04-2020 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob Kontak (Post 10892210)
July 7th until August 14th. You should know the Ohio swimming season by now.
See the crib with the pool? That was mine. 1,900 miles north of you in Akron.
I spent more time on that pig than the 911.

Maybe 190 miles?
The squirrel is getting antsy. Wants to move on. He' a rambling kind of guy. Hates the pool.

Bob Kontak 06-04-2020 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wdfifteen (Post 10892217)
Maybe 190 miles?
The squirrel is getting antsy. Wants to move on. He' a rambling kind of guy. Hates the pool.

Working on a pedestal.

john70t 06-04-2020 05:13 PM

You gotta re-claim it as your own.

First get a quality darker cover to keep leaves out and the water warm. Make it easy.
Use a hybrid salt solution if possible. Chlorine sux.
Place a couple cheap pots full of flowers nearby (petunias $11/flat).
Bottle of over-fermented white wine aka champagne and fish eggs.

There. Done. Go swimmin'.

fastfredracing 06-04-2020 05:30 PM

My dad filled in our 20x40 in ground pool as soon as my sister and I moved out. It was a pretty big chore taking care of it, just to use it for 3 months out of the year .
Lots of good memories though. I had some good pool parties in my high school years , and always enjoyed seeing the neighborhood girls in their swimsuits

Crowbob 06-04-2020 05:30 PM

I have the same attitude about owning a lakefront home.

PITA and usually very, very expensive. Dock in, boat in. Dock out, boat out and a part time job all summer long in between.

Norm K 06-04-2020 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by wdfifteen (Post 10892171)
No, not the good kind.

Ya, most of the pervs here were probably hoping you were using screw as a verb, versus a noun.

_

timchar 06-04-2020 06:10 PM

I filled in my pool that I’ve had for 30 years last summer. Couldn’t be happier. Talk about a time sucking money pit...Tim

rusnak 06-04-2020 06:54 PM

Throw an indigenous dead animal in there and let it decompose. You don't know nuthin' Pal.

She'll be so grossed out, she will want the pool gone.

Thank me later.

93nav 06-04-2020 11:55 PM

Would you be able to sue a magnet of some sort to find the screw? What about one o those magnetic sweepers, or whatever they are called.

Quote:

Originally Posted by wdfifteen (Post 10892171)
No, not the good kind.

My pool cover dropped a 1" #8 self tapping, self drilling stainless steel crew into our above ground pool.


And now there is a fking screw lurking in the bottom, waiting to add to the time and money I waste on this damn thing as soon as someone steps on it and punches a hole in the liner.
First world problem, I know. I should just bulldoze it over the cliff and move on...


dewolf 06-05-2020 12:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Norm K (Post 10892352)
Ya, most of the pervs here were probably hoping you were using screw as a verb, versus a noun.

_

You know us so well...lol

I love our pool. Auto salt chlorination and a good pool blanket. Auto pool cleaner. I spend an hour or two a week just checking everything. Solar heating.

livi 06-05-2020 01:45 AM

My brother built a pool.

Generally they use it at least once every summer. :D

ckelly78z 06-05-2020 01:53 AM

I just opened up my up ground pool for the season (Northern Ohio) on Tuesday. I enjoy the slow Summer months, and cooling off in the pool. One thing that changed my opinion about cleaning it...so much easier:

https://www.vminnovations.com/Product_58209/Intex-28001E-Automatic-Pool-Cleaner-Pressure-Side-Vacuum-Cleaner-w-24-Foot-Hose.html?rd=gpf_58209&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI9c7gqrPq6 QIVD_DACh3LeATFEAkYCCABEgL9wPD_BwE

KFC911 06-05-2020 02:30 AM

You just need to hire a cute, 21 year old "pool girl" ;)

livi 06-05-2020 02:38 AM

Great tip. I bet my brothers wife will agree its a smashing idea.

cabmandone 06-05-2020 03:07 AM

Two words: Pool Bot
Get one. It'll pick that screw up and make your life easier in general. I have this one https://www.doheny.com/dolphin-e10-series-robotic-cleaner with an upgraded filter.
As for chemistry, I don't get the grief here. I get my stabilizer set and then it's just cake. I take my readings in the evening and add chlorine using one of the two tube testers (chlorine/PH) and once a week I break out my titration kit and check free chlorine and test for combined and shock if the combined shows I need to. Easy Peasy.

BTW, it seems I rarely have to adjust my PH but it's all pretty easy if you download the Trouble Free Pool app, punch in your readings and then use the recommended levels.

tevake 06-05-2020 03:14 AM

Five minutes with a mask and snorkel = screw problem solved.

I loved having a pool at our place on Kauai, fun for parties, the kids loved it when they were young, great for afternoon cool down, easy for regular lap swims.
Best area in the yard to hang out.

Cheers Richard

greglepore 06-05-2020 04:20 AM

My s/o wanted a small inground pool, and I convinced her to compromise on a swim spa. Even in Va a pool is only a 4 month proposition-the swim spa can be used year round-we keep it at 93 or so in the summer and 99 in the winter. They're expensive, but available low hours used.
Wouldn't buy one with jets at the swim end though, get one with a hydraulic drive-Phelps or Endless.

Jims5543 06-05-2020 04:25 AM

We keep the pool open year round in Florida. I run solar heat panels set up on a pergola on the south side of my house, I did not want them screwed into my roof.

Check the chemicals every weekend. Once a month go to pool store with sample and get a free analysis. Then buy what we need for it.

The weekly A-B-C

Algaecide
Brush
Chlorine

Clean the filter once a month, and we vacuum it ourselves, although we are in a screened enclosure so it is typically dirt from when it rains.

I was running a DE filter that could go months without cleaning, it wore out. I work for pool contractors and talked to a couple, both said go with a cartridge filter, and get a spare, change it out once a month and clean at your leisure. Filter cleaning with the DE took me a bit to do and was a PITA, the new cartridge setup takes 2 minutes to swap out then about 10 minutes with a hose cleaning it off.

I have no experience with a pool up north opening and closing and have no idea what your problems are up there. I know this past 2 weeks I have been back washing 20" of rain out of mine so my chemicals are going to be wacked this weekend.

masraum 06-05-2020 04:54 AM

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Originally Posted by livi (Post 10892576)
My brother built a pool.

Generally they use it at least once every summer. :D

And they have to break through the ice to get to the water? :D

flatbutt 06-05-2020 05:13 AM

I worked for Buster Crabbe pools while in college. That cured me off any such desire.

beatnavy 06-05-2020 06:09 AM

I'm dealing with this right now. Second season in this house, and the pool sits underneath a very mature, very productive 70-foot pecan tree that dumps billions of catkins into the water for about 2 weeks. My hobby right now is scooping and skimming about 50% of my day. Just when you get it momentarily clean, a breeze kicks up and another 1000 fall into the pool. After last year I vowed to wait until that damn tree was done dumping before opening the pool, but between the cold spring delaying blooming and my wife wanting the pool open I am right back there again :mad:

Once that tree is done and I can get the chemicals stabilized it's not TOO bad. But until then I want to do what my buddy advised -- raise and sell Tilapia in it.

livi 06-05-2020 06:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by masraum (Post 10892675)
and they have to break through the ice to get to the water? :d

:d:d

Cajundaddy 06-05-2020 06:51 AM

We live in SoCal where pools are big fun and done right the maintenance required is about 10 min per week, all in. Personally I would much rather have a pool than equivalent lawn area. I would probably feel differently in Ohio though.

Protip: If there are any trees within 20' of your pool you are doing it wrong. Move the pool or take down/massively trim the trees.

To get hardware off the bottom, tape a strong magnet to your pool pole and go fishing. The sooner you get it, the fewer rust spots will form.

vash 06-05-2020 07:49 AM

put a bounty on the screw and send in the neighborhood kids.

as a kid i could find anything in a pool. now? maybe. i found my mom's wedding ring in the bottom of the pool at a Howard Johnsons. i was like a frog man.

now, 5000 cheeseburgers later..i'm more toad :)

red-beard 06-05-2020 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wdfifteen (Post 10892171)
I don't like being wet and I don't like being cold

Are you a cat?
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ted 06-05-2020 08:11 AM

During the winter we had a small metal hook caught on the pool drain 8 feet under water.
Water was too cold to dive in so managed to get it but it was like a carnival game trying to remove it with a 12 foot pole.
A screw in the pool is a little lower on my list of pool headaches.
With a lawn near the pool made the mistake once of throwing Ironite pellets on the lawn.
Those will leave rust marks in the plaster, so now we use only liquid fertilizers on the lawn.
Turtles, dolphins, starfish and tropical fish mosaics in our pool.http://forums.pelicanparts.com/suppo...sun_smiley.gifhttp://forums.pelicanparts.com/suppo...sun_smiley.gifhttp://forums.pelicanparts.com/suppo...sun_smiley.gifhttp://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1591373426.jpg

red-beard 06-05-2020 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rusnak (Post 10892403)
Throw an indigenous dead animal in there and let it decompose. You don't know nuthin' Pal.

She'll be so grossed out, she will want the pool gone.

Thank me later.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1591373498.jpg

Mrs. Beard made me change the water...24,500 gallons

red-beard 06-05-2020 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cajundaddy (Post 10892798)
To get hardware off the bottom, tape a strong magnet to your pool pole and go fishing. The sooner you get it, the fewer rust spots will form.

Stainless steel. Magnet will not work. But chlorine does rust stainless...

red-beard 06-05-2020 08:19 AM

Actually, as long as you can see it, most nets will scoop it. Mine has a little blade on the front. You push the net at the bottom and it funnels the water and leaves and other junk in. I can clean the pool in about 10 minutes. Leaves less for the pool cleaner to clean.

red-beard 06-05-2020 08:23 AM

The problem with this:

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Is these show up...

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LJ851 06-05-2020 08:24 AM

I think the enjoyment of a pool depends a lot on what your wife/girlfriend looks like.

911 Rod 06-05-2020 08:25 AM

Stepping on a screw shouldn't pierce the liner. Being above ground there is dirt underneath so it's forgiving. Now when the liner gets old and brittle all bets are off.

When I sold my house after 17 years that had an inground pool the RA told me I should disclose any issues with the pool. I'm like "it's a pool!" "There is always something going wring with it."

Nothing lasts forever.

The creepy crawler pool cleaner was a must have.

ted 06-05-2020 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jims5543 (Post 10892647)
I know this past 2 weeks I have been back washing 20" of rain out of mine so my chemicals are going to be wacked this weekend.

Mine needs acid and chlorine after a big rain.
But the pool level always stays constant with an auto fill and drain system.
https://www.poolsupplyunlimited.com/pool/poolmiser-water-leveler-with-white-lid-and-ring-pm-101/63845p1
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ted 06-05-2020 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 911 Rod (Post 10892938)
The creepy crawler pool cleaner was a must have.

In the pool and on the track. ;)
:cool:
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vash 06-05-2020 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ted (Post 10892905)
During the winter we had a small metal hook caught on the pool drain 8 feet under water.
Water was too cold to dive in so managed to get it but it was like a carnival game trying to remove it with a 12 foot pole.
A screw in the pool is a little lower on my list of pool headaches.
With a lawn near the pool made the mistake once of throwing Ironite pellets on the lawn.
Those will leave rust marks in the plaster, so now we use only liquid fertilizers on the lawn.
Turtles, dolphins, starfish and tropical fish mosaics in our pool.

i imagine a sharp pointy thing in a in-ground pool and a above-ground pool to be vastly different potential crisis.

i had a contractor spill a bunch of sheet metal screws on top of my welded seam flat roof and he screamed, "nobody move!". he had a helper bring a bar magnet with wheels to pick up all the fasteners while we stood there like statues.

ted 06-05-2020 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vash (Post 10892995)
i imagine a sharp pointy thing in a in-ground pool and on your roof to be vastly different potential crisis.

i had a contractor spill a bunch of sheet metal screws on top of my welded seam flat roof and he screamed, "nobody move!". he had a helper bring a bar magnet with wheels to pick up all the fasteners while we stood there like statues.

Fixed it for you.

Neighbor had a gust of wind blow and break a glass top table in his pool.
Bad news on your roof or in a plaster or plastic pool.


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