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speeder 06-23-2020 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Bob Kontak (Post 10917859)
JB Weld
There are several spots on the case where an original bonding/sealing agent was placed. These are the places where a factory dowel pin or plug has been inserted into the case. JB Weld is an excellent heavy-duty epoxy that can be used to replace the dabs of factory epoxy that help seal some of these areas of the case and chain housings.


https://www.pelicanparts.com/cgi-bin/wizards/Parts_Wizard.cgi?command=step3&wizard_root=911_eng ine_rebuild

Thanks. Makes sense in that context. MotorSheister used it to repair cases that had exit holes in them from thrown rods, etc. And sold them to people w no disclosure.

speeder 06-23-2020 08:29 AM

So in the photo I posted of the carburetor, (motorcycle carb, fwiw), what product or method of repair would you guys use? :cool:

Zeke 06-23-2020 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by speeder (Post 10917872)
So in the photo I posted of the carburetor, (motorcycle carb, fwiw), what product or method of repair would you guys use? :cool:

You can do the epoxy and monitor it. If it starts to fail for some reason it's not that difficult to reverse the process and have it welded.

1990C4S 06-23-2020 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by speeder (Post 10917820)
JB Weld? For what situation(s)? :confused:

Covering plugs in the case.

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Originally Posted by speeder (Post 10917872)
So in the photo I posted of the carburetor, (motorcycle carb, fwiw), what product or method of repair would you guys use? :cool:

I would be very comfortable with JB Weld. I just used it to seal the bottom of a lawnmower bowl. Zero issues.

dad911 06-23-2020 09:19 AM

Is a replacement expensive or un-obtainable?

Geneman 06-23-2020 11:34 AM

devcon 10760.....what dan said.... i have heard peter dawe patch engine block holes with this stuff in a pinch. in my race gear box he fashioned a novel oil entryway for cooling and tap/died it for a high pressure AN fitting. the stuff is unbelievable.

Bob Kontak 06-23-2020 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by speeder (Post 10917872)
So in the photo I posted of the carburetor, (motorcycle carb, fwiw), what product or method of repair would you guys use? :cool:

I'm not sure what you want to do. Is there a part that fell off you want to reattach?

Do you just want to plug the hole? If so, what is the tube's function?

It's not an assembly that I am familiar with.

speeder 06-23-2020 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by dad911 (Post 10917934)
Is a replacement expensive or un-obtainable?

Yes and kind of yes. Used carbs that will work are available but mostly in awful condition or really expensive. Also, my carbs have an unusual and beautiful satin finish from the factory that the earlier ones don’t have. I haven’t found similar carbs or carb bodies in my type for any price.

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Originally Posted by Bob Kontak (Post 10918212)
I'm not sure what you want to do. Is there a part that fell off you want to reattach?

Do you just want to plug the hole? If so, what is the tube's function?

It's not an assembly that I am familiar with.

The hole stays, in fact it would need to be re-drilled after welding or epoxy. The damage is the missing metal chunked off around the hole.

Shaun @ Tru6 06-23-2020 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by speeder (Post 10916874)
Thanks, I’ll pick one up. I don’t have a compressor here but I have one at home in CA. I’m thinking now that I’ll just repair it w a hand file, really carefully. Here is what I picked up today and the damage:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1592862843.jpg




Can you shape a washer to curve around that tube and then drill to hole size spec? Wave washers are thin and might work, already curved though easy to flatten and recurve. Or McMaster Carr has a huge selection of shims that might work in filling and resizing that hole.

flipper35 06-24-2020 07:48 AM

I think a washer would disrupt the airflow too much in that particular case. I would just JB and be done.

speeder 06-24-2020 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by flipper35 (Post 10919293)
I think a washer would disrupt the airflow too much in that particular case. I would just JB and be done.

Yes, the damage pictured is on a concave surface that would need to be welded or epoxied and then milled down to original contour. A washer would not work.

Shaun @ Tru6 06-24-2020 10:30 AM

That's too bad. I use .1mm (4 thousandths) on up McMC shims when putting Guard LSDs in 915s. Thought that kind of shim thickness might work and be a stronger more permanent repair than JB Weld alone.

Zeke 06-24-2020 12:02 PM

Is there a brass tube that fits in the hole or is that the orifice for a metering needle? I ask because it would be good to understand what forces are given to that hole. Or, how in the world did that break like that?

It very much looks like a slide valve motorcycle carb.

Edit: Sorry, I just saw that you said it was a MC carb in post #42. So, it is the needle hole. Weird break.

speeder 06-24-2020 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeke (Post 10919676)
Is there a brass tube that fits in the hole or is that the orifice for a metering needle? I ask because it would be good to understand what forces are given to that hole. Or, how in the world did that break like that?

It very much looks like a slide valve motorcycle carb.

Edit: Sorry, I just saw that you said it was a MC carb in post #42. So, it is the needle hole. Weird break.

They broke because some idiot installed the little atomizers in the holes incorrectly, (backwards), and the larger end pushed right through the soft aluminum when I...err...he tightened them down. :)

I’ll post pictures tomorrow of the offending parts and it will all make sense.

Bill Douglas 06-24-2020 09:21 PM

Denis that was really bad luck the previous owner :rolleyes: put a hole in it.

I think it's a very good candidate for JB Weld or one of these greater alternatives.


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