Tesla Veers Into Oncoming Traffic In Germany, Causing Head-On Collision Killing Three

[Mad Max]

https://www.zerohedge.com/technology/tesla-veers-oncoming-traffic-germany-causing-head-collision-killing-three



Having driven in Germany for many years I know the road markings indicate one side is a dual carriage way and the other a single road. The Double white lines mean keep to your side of the road, like everywhere else in the world. If the Tesla was on the single side of the road it could assume it was on a breakdown lane and cross over to the dual lane again assuming the Dual lane was 2 normal road. The scary thought now is why did it not detect the other car coming towards it and head right. Why did it play chicken with the other car?

If the other car was overtaking correctly and the Tesla came on to the other side just at the wrong time. Maybe

Another curious part, why did the cars end up near each other on the same side of the road? I would expect if a Head on collision even a glancing blow the cars momentum to carry them away from each other in the opposite directions. - Obamaism666

[speeder]

Okay, now I'm curious...wtf is Obamaism666? Something you've been diagnosed with?

[Mad Max]

Originally Posted by speeder

Okay, now I'm curious...wtf is Obamaism666? Something you've been diagnosed with?

The name of the poster to this article. No idea why.

[widebody911]

This looks like a Tesla hit-piece written by a 6th-grader.

[speeder]

Originally Posted by widebody911

This looks like a Tesla hit-piece written by a 6th-grader.

Exactly. Zero evidence, (even anecdotal), that the car was on autopilot or even equipped w it. Just an apparent at-fault traffic collision by a Tesla driver that resulted in tragedy.

My take-away is that I want to be in a Tesla if I ever get in a bad collision. All 3 people in the other car killed and the Tesla occupants basically unharmed. And it looks like it was a 3, not a big one.

[island911]

Originally Posted by widebody911

This looks like a Tesla hit-piece written by a 6th-grader.

The self driving code?

[Shaun @ Tru6]

Originally Posted by widebody911

This looks like a Tesla hit-piece written by a 6th-grader.

That describes every single piece written on zerohedge. It's a "news" source for retards.

[speeder]

People who get their news from, "Tyler Durden."

[Tobra]

And people say the level of discourse in PARF is bad

[svandamme]

Well if the premise of the article is true, that the Tesla did steer into the other lane.

Then it brings into play the Morals and Ethics discussion of AI driving..


EG , Who can program the AI to choose between driving itself against a brick wall vs evading the brick wall, but plowing over a single pedestrian.

A human's reaction behind the wheel is 1 thing.
But To program a self driving car to decide such things.. is a huge liability issue to those who program it.

Either
The car swerves and kills the pedestrian... or not.
But where are the priorities.

Single occupant in the car vs single pedestrian..
It would be highly immoral to let the AI run over the pedestrian to preserve the single occupant.
But what if the pedestrian is 90 years old, and the occupant 20 with whole life ahead?

Or what if the pedestrian is a single mum with 4 kids at home
and the occupant is a 70 year old widower without kids or family?

4 old timers en route to bingo, vs young couple having a stroll?

4 youngsters in a car, off to a party vs 4 oldtimer having a walk outside?

You just cannot program it to kill the pedestrian at all times.. that would leave the company that produces such a car open to litigation.
And Nobody wants to take responsibility for any kind of decision making processes that will do a split second decision who lives or dies..

At the same time, Who will buy into an autopilot.. that plows into brick walls and decides your survival is secondary to others?


If you ask me.. I will never accept autopilot, and not even accident avoid auto steering.. Not in any car I drive.

[Otter74]

That Zero Hedge article isn't very smart, and the twitter (?) stuff appended is really dumb. But the source article is linked, and I have to assume (because I don't read German) that whatever information is and isn't known is given there. Everything I see in English is just guessing about the self-driving.

[RWebb]

Hey careful - there's a guy on here who LOVES zerohedge

[Shaun @ Tru6]

Originally Posted by RWebb

Hey careful - there's a guy on here who LOVES zerohedge

This guy?

Originally Posted by MRM

Paul, I wish you would stop reading Zerohedge. It is not just an unreliable source, it is a deliberately false source. The authors (there are apparently two or three of them pretending to be a staff of 40) manipulate their readers by making up a bunch of stupid stuff that sounds just plausible enough to convince people that the apocalypse is coming. In other words, they are not just lying to you, they are playing you for the fool. You are too good and too smart to let yourself be misled by them.

[john70t]

Question: Did any other news outlet cover this story?

Question: Is this just useless blather and unimportant to Tesla owners and/or engineers and/or potential customers of AI-controlled vehicles?

If not, then perhaps a hastily written piece is better than none at all.
Don't look a gift horse in the mouth.

[gtc]

Originally Posted by john70t

...
Question: Is this just useless blather and unimportant to Tesla owners and/or engineers and/or potential customers of AI-controlled vehicles?

Yes, because there is no evidence of autopilot involvement in the original article.

[RWebb]

as usual, we can blame Uber for the general bad press re autonomous vehicles

meanwhile, Google...

[widebody911]

Originally Posted by john70t

[...]perhaps a hastily written piece is better than none at all.
Don't look a gift horse in the mouth.

A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on.