... when challenged, the weasel words ... "normal use" , "no evidence", "can cause".... come into handy.

The control of information is hot.

I have some OR gear, from way back. -good stuff.

The ear-loop cinches seem like a smart feature.

The replaceable filters... looks like coffee filters.

But, I agree with you, if you have to wear a mask why worry about effectiveness?

I mean, as long as it doesn't appear to be ineffective.

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This is all about appearances. And who knows how long this security theater will go on. (Nov 3)

Fair enough !

Fauci did say a scarf or stylish bank robber bandana would work just as well but that was a month or two ago so perhaps he has changed his opinion again based on the "totality of evidence based on new data" or something like that, his words !

Heat & Humidity are also a factors.

Dry and hot means quicker evaporation. Being outside means the quicker and greater the dispersion. Inside a closed space with ac the greater the circulation of particles throughout the enclosed space.

Cities with high population density have higher concentrations of particles.

Only in America, do people buy guns and ammo to protect themselves during a pandemic but refuse to wear a face mask. The schit-for-brains is real.

#floridaoftheworld

Yeah? because the smoking guns? On a compound in the sticks of Minnesota?

Seriously, if someone is not around others what Possible good does a face mask do?

Even when around others, say picking up a gallon of milk and using the self checkout... never opening ones mouth. How is a mask necessary?

are you wearing a face mask right now. Walking around your Minnesota cabin muttering into yer mask; The schit-for-brains is real. ?

I wear a mask anytime I go into a store or coffee shop or anywhere other people are. It’s part of just being a decent person, trying to minimize breathing on other people right now. No laws should hav to be passed to enforce this but of course, this is the United States of schit-for-brains.

And I’m not in Minnesota. Other than that, you hit the bullseye as usual.

Well said speeder, you guys stay safe down there, it's getting out of control. I look at it this way; if the least I can do to protect my family is wear a stupid mask, G'damn right I'll wear one...

That's a reckless and ignorant question. You can be a positive carrier and not know it. Then out of nowhere comes the epic sneeze. What have you just done?

Or, someone else has that same moment and around the corner you come to your self checkout, ripe with everyone's DNA and virus trails, walking through an invisible cloud of CORONA. You don't need your fooking mouth open to be in deep siht.

Now if you just stop breathing....

It's even better if you don't go to the coffee shop.

Is your cup of espresso or latte really worth someone's life ? Think about that.

Good advice from the good doctor.

Social distancing is the key.

Skip the morning latte run.


https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/490939-birx-cautions-masks-shouldnt-give-people-false-sense-of-security
Birx cautions masks shouldn't give people 'false sense of security'

The White House's coronavirus response coordinator on Thursday cautioned that a looming advisory encouraging Americans to use masks or face coverings to help prevent spread of the virus should not lull people into a "false sense of security."

Deborah Birx said during a daily briefing that officials are still reviewing data about the benefits of having individuals wear masks when they go outside, but that any final guidance should only be treated as an "additive" piece to existing social distancing guidelines.

"The most important thing is the social distancing and washing your hands," she said. "And we don’t want people to get an artificial sense of protection because they’re behind a mask. Because if they’re touching things — remember your eyes are not in the mask — so if you’re touching things and then touching your eyes you're exposing yourself in the same way."

Just stay home. Order everything online. Don't have to go get coffee and breath on someone, mask notwithstanding.

The inability to think beyond the masks, masks, masks mantra is akin to the same on ventilators, ventilators, ventilators or testing, testing, testing before that.

Well, I had to go to the doctor's office today. They needed to draw blood. No video conference will accomplish that and so far among my many abilities I haven't got that one down. So, yes, in a multi story medical building where mostly sick people go. One party to a small elevator, I left using the fire stairs, not uncommon for me as it exits out the backside of the building.

Staying home is NOT an option every single day. Island's view of this is wrong.

So an epic sneeze? ... and you think that a puny mask is going to contain that? See page 7 of this thread and then get back to us about this "ignorance" thing. :rolleyes:

It could be that sneezing into your shirt would contain particles better (more volume to absorb the air pulse.)

BTW, "ignorant"? ...wishing death on me? Well, aren't you just as pleasant as a frustrated hothead can be...

Unless it's an emergency, I'm not going near a hospital. But everyone has to make that decision for themselves. Medical needs are essential, no question about that. Morning Joe .... sorry, just doesn't cut it.

People should be thinking about their social choices and if anyone believes they can go out more often to their favorite establishment or event because they are wearing a mask, that's exactly the kinda stuff the good Dr Birx was warning us about.

Stay home whenever possible.

Quake in fear of the brown boogie man but yell frrreeeeedddooooommmmm at COVID - funny for sure!

Strong point.

There is a lot of study around the risks that people take outpacing that of their safety gear. Men wearing body armor are not invincible, for example. They might, at first feel invincible, until someone reminds them that they might still be shot in the face.

Oh, Kevlar Mask! Don't tell anyone. but I'll sell millions (MUHAHAhahah) on the South side of Chicago for people who need to go to the grocery store. :cool:

Notice the same type of behavior during the recent social political events, it makes sense to conclude that the cloak on invincibility was believed to be real when you see people shouting at each other inches away and engaging in other close interactions like that.

fwiw-fwgas (for whoever give a s#$) - maximizing fit of surgical/whatever mask.

Yesterday, I posted the video of the hot girl with the colorful dust on her.

Island was kind enough to take a screen shot of a "concern" of regular mask, including surgical mask- ill fitting margins which let in unfiltered air from the sides/bottom. The mask I use has a lower adjustable strap, so it's good, but many others dont have it.

At work today, I wondered "how hard would it be to fix?" I'd seen patient's solutions.

Took a cheapo surgical mask, removed the aluminium nose strap, cut an access into another mask on the lower edge, and fed in a lower strap.

Took 45 seconds.

Here's the aluminum strip taken out of el cheapo mask-

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Here's a slit in another mask on the lower edge to accept the aluminum strip-

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Here is an el cheapo mask which fits better than numerous kn95's I've used- I think- it fits as well as n95 for normal tidal volume breathing and talking.

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45 seconds.

Baker's daily press conference yesterday

Baker: Compliance With Mask Order ‘Very High’ Among Massachusetts Residents

BOSTON (CBS) – Massachusetts Gov. Charlie Baker praised the state’s residents, saying the number of residents complying with the coronavirus mask order is “very high.”

Baker issued an order at the beginning of May for all Massachusetts residents to wear a face covering when they are in public.

“Our compliance with that mask order is very high, and again I give the people of the Commonwealth credit for recognizing and understanding that this is not only an important way to protect themselves, but it’s also an important way to protect others, given the amount of asymptomatic spread that exists with COVID,” said Baker.

A growing number of stores have announced in recent days that they will require masks at locations around the country. Among them are Target, Walmart, Starbucks, and CVS.

Baker said that while the state’s coronavirus cases have improved dramatically, residents should continue to wear masks.

“It’s especially important as the rest of the country has experienced significant increases in recent weeks, we stay vigilant here in Massachusetts,” said Baker. “We believe that people wearing masks is the best and most appropriate way we can all work together to stop the spread. That order is going to remain in place until we don’t have an emergency.”

Remember to wear a mask..

even when vaping..

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how bout mexican?

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I finally wore a mask two different times in the past two days while in a store. I’m not liking it. Felt like I was breathing through a straw with a wet cloth on the end.

Let's not turn this place into Twitter or F**book, shall we ?

This is a Porsche subforum after all.

After 14 pages you now want to play forum police? :eek:

You should stay out of OT then. :rolleyes:

Try participate in the discussion or go to PARF.

There is actually one going on if you haven't noticed.

And there are actually memes and videos being posted if you haven't noticed.

This is an open forum. You're not the guy that gets to decide what can be posted.

I agree. The meme sh.t gets old after a while.

And your constant BS get old.
Use the ignore feature. That's why its there.

Oh quit your bichin lady. You're such a Karen.

I’m tired of being told what to do by the government as well.

Just what communist thinks they can force me to buckle my seatbelt ?

I’m not having an accident, most of the time, and if I do, it’s my body and my windshield.

Who else is with me ?

Learn the difference between rights and privileges, then we'll discuss.

As I have stated before, the compliance rate in my section of Maryland is 99%.

The below meme, however, perfectly captured what I see (glasses wearer) when I put on my mask now that it is hot AND humid:cool:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1595076467.jpg

Thanks- you reminded me to get something to keep my glasses from fogging. I just grabbed one of these:

https://www.amazon.com/ASOG-Anti-Fog-Microfiber-Cleaning-Multi-Purpose/dp/B0894X98FL/ref=sr_1_1?crid=B92BWRZO8QB&dchild=1&keywords=anti +fog+wipes+for+glasses&qid=1595076880&sprefix=anti +fog+wipes%2Caps%2C280&sr=8-1

I'd still like to know what's a good mask. Last time I asked I got a bunch of ***** from people who accused me of taking away supplies from healthcare workers that need them. One kind member here sent me some expired N95s, which was much appreciated. Now I would like to get some long term plan going, preferably with washable masks. Suggestions?

Try again. Wrong argument

If unbuckling doesn’t affect me, what gives anyone the right to force it.

Driving is a privilege. Again, learn the difference then come back.

Because you don't have the right to burden the taxpayers with the unnecessary cost and treatment for your injuries and death.

Also- are you taking into consideration those that depend on you, or those that would have to care for you in your new condition?

My driving is just fine, without a seatbelt.