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speeder 06-30-2020 06:48 PM

Small, inexpensive A/C unit...legit?
 
Have you guys seen promos for this thing? Is it a tiny swamp cooler? :confused:

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speeder 06-30-2020 06:49 PM

Ok, that link looks insane but it works.

dad911 06-30-2020 06:55 PM

Quote:

It's really easy to set up. Fill the 300ml tank with tap water and press the start button
Reads like another Ron Popeil invention? Looks like a mini Swamp cooler. https://home.howstuffworks.com/home-improvement/heating-and-cooling/swamp-cooler.htm

I think you can do alot better (bang for the buck) elsewhere. https://smile.amazon.com/s?k=swamp+cooler&ref=nb_sb_noss_2

island911 06-30-2020 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by speeder (Post 10929229)
Ok, that link looks insane but it works.

So does this link.

https://toptechtrend.com/trending/airco/new-high-tech-ac-saves-money-7/

All that other crap is about the tablet you are using and browser windows you have open..

island911 06-30-2020 07:03 PM

on the device,

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1593572562.jpg


... an air conditioner for ANTS!?

speeder 06-30-2020 07:19 PM

Lol...

aigel 06-30-2020 08:42 PM

Haha. I see this thing in ads all over the place too. Very aggressive marketing.

Yes, looks like a mini swamp cooler, I bet it works in dry climates, just like a mister etc. Good Luck in the South or Midwest summers ... and even in the desert, how much cooling will you get out of a match box size device?

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island911 06-30-2020 08:48 PM

I like you Denis so i'll make you a deal on FOUR personal AC units for ONLY $100 - that's just $25 per unit!


https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon....L._SL1244_.jpg

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Just look at these RICH features...

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Rawknees'Turbo 06-30-2020 09:11 PM

^^^

And those coolers can be used as a TP alternative the next time hordes of fuukwits raid the stores!!!

Heel n Toe 06-30-2020 09:21 PM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1593580674.jpg


Seriously, if it can cool a medium sized room by 18 degrees, it might be more than snake oil... but it may only make you feel cooler if you're somewhere with low humidity.

And it's going to be a pain refilling the reservoir and keeping that battery charged.

Denis, you still in Wisconsin? Thinking about trying this out to keep your sleeping area cooler?

EDIT: from dad911's link:
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Unfortunately, evaporative air coolers don't work everywhere. Swamps, for instance, are lousy places for swamp coolers. It's not entirely clear where they got the nickname, but it probably refers to the humidity they add to the air or the swampy smell that can develop when they aren't cleaned often enough. In order to work, they need a hot, dry climate. In the U.S., swamp coolers work well in the arid southwest.

fireant911 07-01-2020 02:12 AM

I cannot vouch for the swamp cooler in speeder's first post but I have played around with evaporative coolers with some nice results. Granted, these devices are best when used in hot, dry climates; however, these can still provide some incredible temperature reduction here in the super-humid, muggy south (Alabama).

As an example: my neighbor has two chicken houses (the 420 feet long version of a chicken house). I was visiting him on a hot and extremely humid day and inquired about what I thought were cooling pads on one end of the chicken houses. He confirmed that yes these were cooling pads so he then lead me inside one of the houses and we observed the temperature. Next, he turned the water on to the pads (the exhaust fans had already been running) and I witnessed a significant temperature drop in the air - I was not expecting to see such a dramatic change because of the ambient humidity here... this is Alabama!

Psychometrics is an interesting science.

asphaltgambler 07-01-2020 03:36 AM

Prolly work OK out on the dry midwestern states, definitely not on the southern east coast

billybek 07-01-2020 04:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fireant911 (Post 10929415)
Psychometrics is an interesting science.

Thank Dr. Carrier for the wonderful chart he invented in the early 1900's to study the properties of air.

Brilliant man.

Baz 07-01-2020 06:01 AM

Interesting thread - especially for this time of year.

In my location the humidity would probably impact the effectiveness of such a device.

But I have been considering how to better control my garage's climate and this thread energized that thought process again.

I've always thought a window unit with both cool and heat would be the ticket.

Downside would be electric bill increase and also closing the garage up - which is not always practical during the day because it's in use by me - and my cat, whose food and water dishes are inside.

So what about just something to move the air?

A fan.

One that is controlled by a thermostat would be ideal.

I was looking at this and thinking it would be the best approach so I could use whatever fan I wanted (I already have extras of those on hand) - so just get this plug --- and Bob is your uncle.

https://images.globalindustrial.com/...=1579496400000

GH85Carrera 07-01-2020 06:12 AM

My grandparents were all born on farms and ranches, with no electricity. So not even a fan. During the dust bowl era it was record hot, and the dust storms were not just a few days or weeks, but they went on for three years. Then imagine it is time to eat dinner. It is 110 outside, the house is like your attic hot, and mom lights the wood burning stove in the kitchen to cook. I can't imagine how hot it must have been. The 1930s still hold many all time hot records for Oklahoma.

As a kid growing up we did not have AC in the house until I was in high school. I went to 11 different schools, and not one was air conditioned. From Hawaii to Alabama, Texas, and Oklahoma.

I remember when I was in grade school going to my grandparents house and they had a large swamp cooler. It worked great on low humidity days, but it smelled like a wet basement, and on humid days, it just made the house feel worse.

I think Air Conditioning is one of the top 5 best inventions of all time. Thank you Mr. Carrier.

onewhippedpuppy 07-01-2020 06:28 AM

I’ve toyed with the idea of a small heat pump unit for my garage. They aren’t super expensive, the outside unit is small enough to wall or roof mount, and they work reasonably well. Unfortunately I don’t have 220VAC in my garage, which would be pricey since the electrical box is on the opposite corner of the house.

Denis have you looked at the freestanding A/C units that plug into a 120VAC wall outlet? You have to manually empty the drip tray but they work well to cool a room. At a past job we had a few to cool conference rooms with poor ventilation.

dad911 07-01-2020 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy (Post 10929614)
I’ve toyed with the idea of a small heat pump unit for my garage. They aren’t super expensive, the outside unit is small enough to wall or roof mount, and they work reasonably well. Unfortunately I don’t have 220VAC in my garage, which would be pricey since the electrical box is on the opposite corner of the house.

Denis have you looked at the freestanding A/C units that plug into a 120VAC wall outlet? You have to manually empty the drip tray but they work well to cool a room. At a past job we had a few to cool conference rooms with poor ventilation.

For a couple hundred they make room ACs that vent through a 4" dryer vent.

I may do a minisplit, so it hangs on the wall out of the way (I could use the heat here also)

widebody911 07-01-2020 06:55 AM

It's basically a tiny swamp cooler, and nothing new under the sun. Thermodynamics ain't free - you have to dump that hot air somewhere.

I bought a similar one at a swap meet for $20

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Vipergrün 07-01-2020 07:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GH85Carrera (Post 10929590)

Snip

The 1930s still hold many all time hot records for Oklahoma.

Wait, isn't global warming a new thing? How is that possible?

dad911 07-01-2020 07:50 AM

From anyone that's used a swamp cooler..... I assume they add alot of moisture to the air? I thought they were typically used outside?


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