Could this be why cases are spiking?

[Seahawk]

Originally Posted by Ziggythecat

and down we go

https://radio.foxnews.com/2020/03/27/cdc-director-reacts-to-resurfaced-tape-of-dr-anthony-fauci-downplaying-virus-threat/

We Are Spirits in the Material World.

[Zeke]

Originally Posted by wdfifteen

I think it’s due to the shortage of testing. Tracking known active cases requires that there are enough tests to test everyone with symptoms + epidemiological evidence to confirm the infection. They’re making the assumption that if it looks like a duck and it’s been hanging out with ducks, it’s a duck.

Tracking down active or potentially active cases is no more difficult than reaching out to STD victims with a history of physical contact with an STD carrier. Test or no test, the ones affected by a non symptomatic carrier need to be advised.

I'm not talking about random contact while fools are gathering in anonymous groups. Unfortunately for all of us, the real problem lies therein.

[Tobra]

Originally Posted by wdfifteen

I think it’s due to the shortage of testing. Tracking known active cases requires that there are enough tests to test everyone with symptoms + epidemiological evidence to confirm the infection. They’re making the assumption that if it looks like a duck and it’s been hanging out with du cks, it’s a duck.

We all know what happens when we assume though. What do you mean by "epidemiological evidence"?


Cases are obviously massively under reported, deaths are almost certainly over reported. Cases spiked when we massively increased testing, but no doubt that is totally unrelated.

[javadog]

Oops.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/cdc-acknowledges-mixing-up-coronavirus-testing-data/ar-BB14qGHG?ocid=sf

[RWebb]

https://www.klcc.org/post/official-covid-19-fatalities-may-undercount-pandemics-death-toll-many-hundreds-pacific-nw

[group911@aol.co]

Is there anything you folks won't believe to justify your bias??? Oddly enough, we've only had 268 accident fatalities this year. https://www.codot.gov/library/traffic/safety-crash-data/fatal-crash-data-city-county/Colorado_Historical_Fatalities_Graphs.pdf

Originally Posted by red-beard

They were. I know Colorado retracted about 300-400 deaths because they were car accident victims, who happened to have COVID

[Racerbvd]

[Bill Douglas]

LOL good one Byron.

[93nav]

The tape is from January. A lot has changed since then. Estimates then were that there were very very few cases in the country. Perhaps 2 on January 21.

Hope I got these right:

Quote from Jan 21th:
Fauci said, "Obviously, you need to take it seriously and do the kind of things the (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention) and the Department of Homeland Security is doing. But this is not a major threat to the people of the United States and this is not something that the citizens of the United States right now should be worried about." My emphasis the "right now".

Quote from the 26th:
"It's a very, very low risk to the United States, but it's something that we as public health officials need to take very seriously," Fauci added to host John Catsimatidis, per The Hill.

Originally Posted by Seahawk

https://radio.foxnews.com/2020/03/27/cdc-director-reacts-to-resurfaced-tape-of-dr-anthony-fauci-downplaying-virus-threat/

We Are Spirits in the Material World.

[Seahawk]

Originally Posted by 93nav

The tape is from January. A lot has changed since then. Estimates then were that there were very very few cases in the country. [/I]

Of course it has, and you got it right, January. When of course the WHO and the Chinese were managing the CV-19 message.

I still cannot imagine if I run the Department of Health and Humans Services with a 1.3 Trillion dollar budget...

https://www.hhs.gov/sites/default/files/fy-2021-budget-in-brief.pdf

CDC Budget as well:

https://www.cdc.gov/budget/documents/fy2021/FY-2021-CDC-Budget-Detail.pdf

and write this little screed, The Budget proposes $94.5 billion in discretionary budget authority and $1.3 trillion in mandatory funding. These strategic investments ensure the Department’s programs work well for the people they serve, and take crucial steps towards a future where these programs enhance and protect the health and well-being of every American and still get caught with my pants down on CV-19.

Where are the validated, peer reviewed methodologies for combating CV-19 like diseases? Where were the guidelines for attributing CV-19 as the main cause of death?

Where were the checklists and national data bases, the blocking and tackling of responding to this type of CV?

This is not political at all, btw, the links are to easily found websites.

Trillion, with a T, every year and the best we could muster was a complete cluster foxtrot of a response? We knew this was coming, folks, and we Barney Fife'ed it.

[brainz01]

Clearly they needed more money to do their jobs. It's tough these days being underfunded.

[freeform911]

If I'm from area code 29902 ( South Carolina) go to Florida and end up getting test there, test positive, where does that positive test get applied?
Florida?
South Carolina?

[Eric Coffey]

^^^ At this point, probably both...

[wdfifteen]

Originally Posted by Tobra

We all know what happens when we assume though. What do you mean by "epidemiological evidence"?
.

It’s described in the link Shaun posted.

[Tobra]

Okay, great. What do you mean by "epidemiological evidence"?

[wdfifteen]

Originally Posted by Tobra

Okay, great. What do you mean by "epidemiological evidence"?

I mean Epidemiologic Linkage, as described in the link Shaun posted.

"Epidemiologic Linkage

One or more of the following exposures in the 14 days before onset of symptoms:

Close contact** with a confirmed or probable case of COVID-19 disease; OR
Close contact** with a person with:
clinically compatible illness AND
linkage to a confirmed case of COVID-19 disease.
Travel to or residence in an area with sustained, ongoing community transmission of SARS-CoV-2.
Member of a risk cohort as defined by public health authorities during an outbreak."

[wdfifteen]

Originally Posted by freeform911

If I'm from area code 29902 ( South Carolina) go to Florida and end up getting test there, test positive, where does that positive test get applied?
Florida?
South Carolina?

Given the scattershot approach to record keeping I wouldn't want to speculate about what happens down there. But I can tell you in Ohio it is attributed to where ever the person was 14 days before the positive test unless the source of infection is actually known.

[Shaun @ Tru6]

I'm so disappointed in our country.

[group911@aol.co]

Not that these schmucks know anything
https://www.goldmansachs.com/insights/pages/face-masks-and-gdp.html

[mattdavis11]

Was listening to a local radio show this afternoon. A call came from a man that went to have his family of 4 tested. They waited and waited, and were eventually told that they couldn't be tested that day. A few days later, in the mail comes a letter stating that all 4 were positive for covid-19. They never got tested!

Another caller said that hospitals are fudging the number of covid related deaths because the hospitals would receive more money from the Feds, nearly $15K per death.